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wheels
wheels
WA
204 posts
WA, 204 posts
20 Apr 2013 9:44pm
Just wondering if anyone or everyone washes their bar and lines in fresh water after every session? as i never have but wondering if it will affect the life of the lines and bar.
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
20 Apr 2013 9:55pm
I've got a wheelie bin full of fresh water next to my car, my bar and lines get a dunk after every session then hung to drip/air dry. The only bar/line issue I've had was a brand new bar snapping, which was readily covered by warranty.
wheels
wheels
WA
204 posts
WA, 204 posts
20 Apr 2013 10:14pm
Yeah i might have to start doing it as my bar and line look like they have been ran over with a truck and i noticed today that those stupid magnets they stich into the depower cleat have completly rusted to the point of brown dust, and bar and line is about 15months old.I origially didnt do it as i thought that because the lines are wound tight that if i washed them in fresh water and they didnt completely dry due to lack of air flow that the lines would be suseptable to mould and then fail?What do the manufactures of most bar and lines recommend?
Gateman
Gateman
QLD
409 posts
QLD, 409 posts
21 Apr 2013 12:53am
Cabrinha recommend washing your bar "from time to time" by letting it sit in a bucket of fresh water (with the lines rolled up) for 5 minutes then hang up to dry completely before storing.

I was taught by my instructor that "fresh water = mould" and have never rinsed my gear but always made sure it is 100% dry before putting it away. Never had mould on any of my gear, even after a few (6) years in storage.

IMHO the residual salt crystals absorb any moisture from humidity during storage rather than the lines or fabric absorbing it, when it dries out, the salt crystals are there for next time. Just my opinion.
Ercorn
Ercorn
QLD
199 posts
QLD, 199 posts
21 Apr 2013 9:14am
Gateman said...
Cabrinha recommend washing your bar "from time to time" by letting it sit in a bucket of fresh water (with the lines rolled up) for 5 minutes then hang up to dry completely before storing.

I was taught by my instructor that "fresh water = mould" and have never rinsed my gear but always made sure it is 100% dry before putting it away. Never had mould on any of my gear, even after a few (6) years in storage.

IMHO the residual salt crystals absorb any moisture from humidity during storage rather than the lines or fabric absorbing it, when it dries out, the salt crystals are there for next time. Just my opinion.


Fresh water=mould
Salt water= rot
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
21 Apr 2013 9:25am
Rinsing lines is a good idea so long as you hang out to dry. Sand and salt crystals are abrasive and can wear lines.

I never really bother though unless there the bar is quite sandy.
SaltySinus
SaltySinus
VIC
960 posts
VIC, 960 posts
21 Apr 2013 6:32pm
I never used to but my 12 month old bar corroded badly on the qr. started to clean it with fresh water after every session now.
pattiecannon
pattiecannon
QLD
593 posts
QLD, 593 posts
24 Apr 2013 11:50pm
fresh water rinse everytime, so far, so good. Even my north depower line is holding up lol!
Hey Wheels, what model is that one with the magnets?
wheels
wheels
WA
204 posts
WA, 204 posts
25 Apr 2013 2:02pm
2012 ozone bar, i noticed something sharp when rigging up last week that was when i saw that both magnets had desintigrated and sharp pieces had cut through the material, i guess i am lucky it didnt cut one of my lines and not very happy that you pay close to $500 for bar and lines and only last 15months,place i brought it never mentioned washing them i couldnt find it in the instructions.They should just use velcro.
toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
25 Apr 2013 8:56pm
I have the same bar, done 2 season,s on it now and its as good as new but has been washed in fresh water after every use & hung up to dry.

Same with the harness, kites are a different story because they are hard to dry out but if you have sand trapped under your leading edge....
pattiecannon
pattiecannon
QLD
593 posts
QLD, 593 posts
26 Apr 2013 12:04am
toppleover said...

Same with the harness, kites are a different story because they are hard to dry out but if you have sand trapped under your leading edge....


Hey Wheels, that s**x bro but rya shore u didn' step on 'em to make 'em crack? seems weird that salt and magnets don't mix, who'dathunk it?

Most kiters round here always try and fly the kite dry before packing up. Get's rid of most of that LE sand. Bit tricky when it starts raining but
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
26 Apr 2013 9:02am
I wash my ozone bar in fresh water and my magnets have cut the neoprene also. Lasted 1 **** season then a good one. Maybe Ozone should used some glued heat shrink ott before sewing them in.
toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
26 Apr 2013 7:49pm
You guys over in WA most probably kite 10x more than me, hence the more advanced rusting...more than likely mine just ain't visible yet.

For $500 a pop there must be a better way.

Ozone, better still - all kite manufacturers should have an online feed back setup, so we could sort all this sh1t out.

From memory I think Airush have this.
ice
ice
VIC
222 posts
ice ice
VIC, 222 posts
24 Sep 2013 11:00pm
Apart from rinsing bar and lines I do the following to help maintain these items.

1. As soon as I am on the water, I do a run into deeper water and drop the kite in the water, on both sides, to help get sand out of the bridals and pulleys. At the same time I dunk the bar, depower, quick release under water. This is simply to remove some of the sand that has built up during the set up and launch phase. It is not necessary if you do this on grass.

2. After the session, and winding the lines onto the bar, I walk toward the end of lines as I wind. The alternative is standing stationary when winding - this means the lines will be dragged thru the sand, for example the line ends will be dragged around 20 metres. Remember what sand paper is made out of.

SaltySinus
SaltySinus
VIC
960 posts
VIC, 960 posts
25 Sep 2013 12:25pm
Yes, every time. I also rinse the quick release in cold water and open it up under the tap to ensure no sand in the mechanism.

Tony green
Tony green
QLD
24 posts
QLD, 24 posts
25 Sep 2013 12:31pm
I do got look after your equipment
ActionSportsWA
ActionSportsWA
WA
1007 posts
WA, 1007 posts
25 Sep 2013 10:19pm
Hi Peeps,

Yes, it's very important to wash your bar and lines in fresh water after EVERY use. If you want to keep your gear in great condition, always wash it. The salt crystals will form within the weave of the lines when they are relaxed allowing slow growing and sharp larger crystals inside the lines. When under load, the lines pull tight and any crystals can start making tiny cuts in your lines internally where they cannot be noticed until one day a line snaps inexplicably.

Salt in your bridles is worse as the pulley makes the salt grind the internal weaves as it passes around the tight corner. You should also fire off your safety every use BEFORE you go out to make sure no corrosion is going to foul the emergency release system in the event of an emergency.

DM

Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5125 posts
VIC, 5125 posts
26 Sep 2013 10:30am
After each session I drop the bar in the plastic tub, fill it with water to cover, swoosh it around, then hang it in the shade to dry.

After that I swoosh the wettie, harness, whatever else.

I get about 150 hours kiting most years. My current kites have about 130 hours each and I have a bar for each kite. The kites are 3-4 years old. All my gear is in near new condition except for some minor cosmetic wear and tear and the bungies that hold the wrapped lines onto the bar are stuffed. The rubber inside the bungy has perished. I will replace the bungy this weekend.
Peterc150
Peterc150
VIC
710 posts
VIC, 710 posts
27 Sep 2013 12:05am
I rinse my bar in fresh water after every session and dry it in the shade.

This helps to prevent the safety release gunking up due to salt and/or corrosion which could end up jamming it.

No safety = great danger, maybe death.

Regularly testing the safety release is therefore a good idea also.
digitalkiwi
digitalkiwi
VIC
40 posts
VIC, 40 posts
27 Sep 2013 4:11pm
I wash my bar and lines every session, salt and sand are the biggest killers of kite gear over time. I always tend to release my quick release and run water through it also, take care of you gear and it will take care of you.

My 2008 bar and lines from my old Cabrinhas and they look like near new, I learnt on, traveled and used these kites extensively.

I've taken a look at buying some second hand gear before and it's amazing how destroyed the gear is from people not looking after their lines, I now only buy new because of this fact.

P.S - My 2008 kites are FU**ed though - I've had repairs on each, one leading edge popped in Brazil and the other needed attention while in Egypt.
Thought about selling them but they are worth nothing, even though they fly sweet, will use them in the waves now.



wannakite
wannakite
NSW
35 posts
NSW, 35 posts
27 Sep 2013 7:46pm
every time im out i rinse everything in water except kite
dogfish
dogfish
NT
255 posts
NT, 255 posts
1 Oct 2013 7:27am


ActionSportsWA said..,
salt crystals will form within the weave of the lines


Do you reckon salt likewise affects the canopy long-term?

Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5125 posts
VIC, 5125 posts
1 Oct 2013 10:54am
You need to rinse and check your hook knife from time to time. A little corrosion is ok as long as the blades look ok and it's a decent knife in the first place. You never need your hook knife until the day you do then you really, really want it to work.
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