Hey Nicor. I know in WA those sort of winds are normally associated with large winter swells. Our seabreezes are rarely that strong on a consistent basis. Maybe gero!

Sooo I have the new Cat 2013 8m, I'm 75kg and been on a 150 mako which is a fairly big board but can hold down just about anything. Was 19 to 30 the other day and I don't think I'd want to go out in more than that unless it was a nice northwester. The westerely stuff has huge gust margins. But I reckon a 6 would go just about anywhere. The new cat has that C in it now, so I'm not certain it is as storm friendly as the older models which a lot of crew rave about in those conditions.

I also know crew who don't surf much and the reo is there choice in the 6m WTF conditions.

My call would be to try and get an older cat or a new reo. But I may be wrong. I'm still dialing it in. For me the new cat though was still well behaved and drifts enough for what I do. it does have that instant power spike on the downstroke you get with a normal C, although a little tamer. But it is there. Hard one. I'd rather be boosting with a cat above me though than a reo.

Yeh was out today on my 8m cat 2013 (weigh the same as Steve) was 18 knots then hitting 30 on the squalls. No problems keeping upwind at 18 an yet still holding at 30. I'm starting to dial it in more. The 8m cat is quickly becomi g my fav kite.

Hey Steve do you have it on the fastest low pressure setting at the kite end or middle. Got it in the middle thinking of changing.

Yeh me to. Kites behave to erratically for me no matter how stable above this. Leave it to the wind surfers. Although I do have a 2012 VX 6m hardly used that rips from 28 to 35. No one seems to want to buy it though? Weird.

Steve do you have it on the middle knot settings at the bar?

The 2013 Cat 6m can be controlled in 50 knots (weight 95 kg). Low end is also more than OK. The LE seems to be a little stronger than the 2011/2012 Cat 6m and a lot stronger than previous models (2009 and 2010).

eppo said..

Yeh me to. Kites behave to erratically for me no matter how stable above this. Leave it to the wind surfers. Although I do have a 2012 VX 6m hardly used that rips from 28 to 35. No one seems to want to buy it though? Weird.

Steve do you have it on the middle knot settings at the bar?

Out of the bag I normally move the knot to the shortest at the bar, as I find most new bars from ozone are set with slightly long rear lines so there is no possibility of newbies less experienced kiters oversheeting the kite. Experienced kiters know if the kite is oversheeting though and simply push out a bit on the bar. So it depends on the bar, I think at least one of my newer bars is on the shortest knot.

What about a 7m edge? Nah just kidding of course!

Yeh 6m cat for 28 to 40 for sure. Put it on the middle even the s,lowest turning setting. It is a stupidly stable platform. But then again my other kites are an edge and a VX which are high performance high aspect kites!

Hence why I love my 14m in light winds on my skim, allows for my pathetic attempts to ride this board! Jesus I'm farqin hopeless on that thing!

If you want to boost and get amongst the waves get a cat, want to seriously get into the waves and stay more on the horizontal plain, the the reo. Rebel to high aspect in these conditions.

In north, the Neo would be worth looking at for stability in those winds.

Deltas in high winds.....NO!

I wanted to put this question here instead of starting a new thread seeing as we are already talking about REOs

I am having a hard time tossing up between the Airush WAVE and the Ozone REO for dedicated wave kites. At the moment it is fairly neck and neck on the surface (I still have a bit more demoing to do), but the Airush WAVE is ahead at the moment simply because I like the sizing of 6/9/12, and I like the control system. That size 9 sits perfectly between the other sizes.

If I were to get a quiver of the REOs, how could I duplicate the range of the Airush sizes with only 3 kites? I am 85kg and want to get from 15knts up to 35-40knts (went out the other day in 34knots and it was the most fun I have had in a long time Bring on more wind!). 6/8/10 seems the obvious choice, but at the moment my 11m C4 is not very fun under 18knts and I am worried that the size 10 Reo will further reduce my range when I use it to replace the C4. 6/8/12 perhaps? Or even 4/8/12 and increase my upper end while sacrificing some overlap? According to the wind chart on the Ozone website, a spacing of 4m in between kites is feasible, but I don't know how much of that is hype.

The way that prices are at the moment with the REOs, I could even go straight to a 4 kite quiver for the same cost of a 6/9/12 quiver in the WAVE. Also with 2014 kites around the corner, those prices are going to go down even further.
Problem I am finding out with Airush, is that even though I would only need one of their adjustable SmartBars for all sizes of kite, Airush dealers are very hesitant to sell kite-only. Whereas I already have 2 Ozone bars.

then go straight to a 4 kite quiver if its the same price. that will give you far more options for the right kite on any given day.

ps I use 50cm bar for all my ozone's from 13m edge to 6m reo. 6 reo is sweet as on the 50cm bar.

ps cauncy.... shut up about the 7 edge! I want one but all capex approval is cancelled for the rest of the year!....

Plummet said..

then go straight to a 4 kite quiver if its the same price. that will give you far more options for the right kite on any given day.

ps I use 50cm bar for all my ozone's from 13m edge to 6m reo. 6 reo is sweet as on the 50cm bar.

ps cauncy.... shut up about the 7 edge! I want one but all capex approval is cancelled for the rest of the year!....

Hi Plumment

"50cm bar on 6m reo" ? - why is this so good? I thought you would loose performance from the 45cm bar on this kite ??

If your going the reo I would still suggest a 45cm bar and a 50, put your back lines on the back pigtail and use your 45cm bar for the 6 and 8m. If you already have 2 ozone bars maybe cut one down (I don't think you can do this with this years bar though). Also heard some good things about the wave with better bottom end and big depower (using pulleys though)but that being said the 12m reo also has a heap more bottom end than the others relative to it's size. The downside of that is if you can get upwind on the 10 it will drift faster than the 12.

good advice eppo.

turtle. why cut a bar down? I don't see the point. if you can handle the jandle of the faster turning leave it standard.

ps I actually run 3 bars. 1 most worn out. use for least dangerious kiting, medium wear bar. medium danger levels. almost brand spankers bar. only comes out in extreme winds and or extreme locations. I could use that extreme bar in light wind in an extreme location. so I could be on any one of my kites. I certainly don't want a cut down bar on a big kite.

wait for the new ozone bar...
gotta be out shortly, surely???
lol.

Damn editor stopped again! For examples my main kite is a 10m edge. I just love the edge design. But I did not like the 7m, to quick across the window in heavy conditions. So for that I got a catalyst 2013 8m although would have been happy with a second hand cat fro

Faaaaaaaaarrrrq. If this advice saves ya coin then all good man.