Just pumped an 11M in the shop, looks awesome, no-one has guessed the way they are rigged.
SSW blowing 15 knots +, going to test the 11M, will take the 13M as well.
Cya over at Dolls, south side of the groyne, if you want a go.
Back later, everything is on hold.

These 4 demos are not in the sale!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

www.mushow.cz/?m=-1

Good promo video of the Ozone Instinct.
Note the trailing edge shape matches the leading edge shape, unlike some other flat kites that have no bridles or pulleys.
The Instinct also has a small range of movement at the bar similar to a Cab SB or SS TD.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

shouldnt this be in 'unbiased' reviews??

Here is my 2c worth:

I had a short go using the 11m on the thursday (gusting up to 20+).

I'm 90kg and was using a 155cm board. I normally fly foils and arcs... venoms, frenzies, samurais, blades.

I also normally landboard and buggy, this kite surfing thing is new to me. I can fly kites but edging a board in the water is what gives me trouble.

The Instinct really impressed me. I was blown away by how fast it was. I was also very surprised at how light the bar pressure was and the de-power range just in the bar (without adjusting the cleat)really impressed me. It only took a few mins to get (kinda) used to this kite. The launch and land is super easy. This is a very user friendly package.

It is a hard concept to get used that the kite will land its self (crash at the edge with no power) when you let go of the bar. This could really bug a total newbie kite flyer coz you'd be relaunching very often but it is a good safety feature. Maybe I am too used to the arcs that will just sit above your head. I didn't try a water relaunch but steve did... it looked pretty easy.

The flying style was similar to a frenzy in that the kite would dramatically speed up when the bar was pushed away. So you could generate a fair bit of power through the kites speed or through pulling the bar in. And NO STALLING! Even with the kite flying slowly you can pull the bar all the way in and it won't stall. My foils don't do that but arcs sure do... and it is a pain. I can't get over how fast the kite was. A more competent boarder than i could really use that speed to throw down some awsome moves. The speed of the instinct could really be used for some super aggressive flying.

Anyway, by the end of a very short go on this kite I was holding ground and even pulled off a small jump.

Having said all of that i would personally like just a little more bar pressure.... or maybe more time to get used it. Every time I get a new kite I think "damn it's too light on the bar" and a few months later I thank god for it and think "how did i ever fly those heavy old bastards!".

Schmik

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Originally posted by azza

Tech question...

Is the sheeting/depower strap on the fifth line?

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The sheeting/depower system is a cleat, it is attached to both the front lines and the fifth line, thereby tilting the whole leading edge.
Up at the kite there is a tri legged bridle going to various points on the leading edge, a fourth line not under tension during flight goes to a point approx 1/3rd along the centre strut.
There is also a span line going from where the fifth line connects at the kite to a point near the rear attachments for the rear lines.

Very clever design, cannot invert and gives very positive tilting movement to the whole canopy, along with struts which are stiffened socket joints to the LE for max depower with little bar movement, unlike other flat kites.

Low bar pressure, with excellent direct connection feel, tight turning and fast flying.

The system, and the kites need to be seen and flown to appreciate the construction quality and how good this new design is.

Kitepower is looking for Ozone dealers, in all areas of Australia.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

The prices will be on the Kitepower website within a few days max. I think it they are very close but we were very busy with the sale so web work was slowed a bit.

We have 2 advance orders in their system and am waiting on a firm confirmation on when we will have stock. Probably within 1 - 2 weeks from now, for the first batch to arrive.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

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Originally posted by tobes

Not so tech questions,

When?

How much?

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I flew my V that day and the Instinct. The Instinct does not auto zenith. If you let go of the bar it will fly to one edge of the window and fall out of the sky. This would bug you if you crashed and loast the bar but is a good safety feature..... if it all gets to much just let go.

I didn't see it invert once and Steve demo'ed the relaund / solo launch a few times.

BTW, here is an interesting thought about ozone : they come from making paragliders unlike a lot of other kite companies that used to make sailboards. Food for thought!

cheers
schmik

You've probably seen this already but the best explainations I've seen so far is on kiteforum
http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2327459&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
a clever "mixer" of the bridle and fronts.
Something interesting going on with the lines at the kite, I havent figured out the line between each wingtip,
The first invert free bow looks like a winner. I imagine there is less stress on the LE because it won't need to be rock hard to avoid inversion.
On the down side it seems not to "100% depower" as much as other bows, fine with me, and last time I had a camcleat with a long loop and ball it tended to flap around and tangle with the other lines. There also doesn't seem to be a spinning safety with a 100% kill, a safety to the CL leaves the kite with some power till it gets to the edge of the window?
Anyway, I reckon it looks sweet, hopefully my next trip to sydney will coincide with some wind and I can take one for a spin
PS if any of the above is crap, feel free to correct me.

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Originally posted by porkythekiter

i find it interesting that while ozone is known for their foil kites, they did not add one pump to their first LEI...come on now Ozone

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G'day Porky

When Ozone was planning and costing this kite several months ago, thay asked us and probaly dozens of distributors and kiters around the world for a wish list of features, single point inflation was high on our list.

The kite has come out without this feature, but it has one way valves that work really well.

The kite depowers when you let the bar go same as all the other bows/flat kites I have tried. I know there is one post from a guy who tried the kite for 5 mins on land, where he seems to think he would not have been dragged a bit if he tried his stunt with other brands of kites. Too many variables to tell, and it is not a definitive test anyway.

I have tested the depower heaps of times, for myself, and in front of others at the beach, it works.

The leash can be clipped to the centre line between the the chicken loop and the bar, this will give a fully spinning leash, with total depower if you pull the chicken loop release or 95% depower if you let go of the bar or drop the bar during a bar pass. This will work for unhooked or hooked in riding.

The depower is a piece of webbing, one end is attached to the silver depower rope exiting the cleat, the other end has a large eyelet and this is around the chicken loop line, it cannot get tangled and ir always within arms reach.

The kite cannot invert from what I can see or from my "tests".

I will try to post some pics of the bar laying on the ground today so you can all see how it works. If I don't get to do it bug me!!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

Man that bar setup looks so mucg easyer that all the other bows, and the bag for the thing looks awsome too !

Hi Steve
He does say that Chasta was flying it, I'm pretty sure that makes it something to do with ozone, but maybe it's just an interesting experiment....On closer examination the bridling looks different to the Instinct. The kite in the background is a Frenzy 05.
Keen to fly the Instinct, my fav bow design yet.

"Here's another little something ozone are playing with.
www.foillia.it/public/forum/index.php?/topic/7102-ecco-il-foil-marino-targato-ozone/
Looks like exactly the same bridle set up but on a foil.
It's all in italian, but the general gist is its a massive depower water foil proto, still needs a bit of work.
Stuff one pump, give me NO PUMP!"

Me thinks they are .
How much depower do you want?I was out last week in the waves in SSW gusting to 30 kts (comfortable not threatened, sweet on a 19m PLK Venom 2 on an UG FLX 152 x 44 I weigh 95 kg.Frankly I was surprised (Locals reckon nobby's wind meter is out by around 3 kts so prolly more like 27 kt gust ,Still not bad!!Personally I like (and think many others like and are looking for )a large sweet spot.That's the design challenge

Cheers

Lach

Well Lach/Tobes,

Seems you are both correct, I asked one of Ozone's owners he confirmed they are working on a combination land and water foil, what is seen in the Italian forum article is a prototype made by Ozone, sounded like production was still a fair way off though.

I agree, kiters are looking for a larger useable wind range, or sweet spot, that has been proven over the last several months by the huge advance in market share of kites that have this feature.

The Ozone Instinct is another offering along those lines, but it is a distictly different feeling wide span inflatable, with low/medium bar pressure with positive direct feel, unhindered by pulleys that absorb some of the feedback from the kite. The feeling of the pulleys can be adapted to quite easily by most people, but some cannot deal with them.
Inversion is a similar thing, I rarely see experienced wide span kite users having issues with inversions, even if they get them they can get the kite sorted and relaunched 95% of the time. This has been my own experience too.

But I do prefer the direct feeling of an Instinct kite without pulleys, and it is fine by me if it cannot invert, but still has 95% depower on demand and the ability to depower 100% in an emergency by using a leash the flag the kite to one line.

First shipment is a bit closer, received order confirmations today.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

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Originally posted by Mr float

"Here's another little something ozone are playing with.
www.foillia.it/public/forum/index.php?/topic/7102-ecco-il-foil-marino-targato-ozone/
Looks like exactly the same bridle set up but on a foil.
It's all in italian, but the general gist is its a massive depower water foil proto, still needs a bit of work.
Stuff one pump, give me NO PUMP!"

Me thinks they are .
How much depower do you want?I was out last week in the waves in SSW gusting to 30 kts (comfortable not threatened, sweet on a 19m PLK Venom 2 on an UG FLX 152 x 44 I weigh 95 kg.Frankly I was surprised (Locals reckon nobby's wind meter is out by around 3 kts so prolly more like 27 kt gust ,Still not bad!!Personally I like (and think many others like and are looking for )a large sweet spot.That's the design challenge

Cheers

Lach

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