First kite 110kg's?

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chief
chief
WA
65 posts
WA, 65 posts
13 Aug 2004 8:36am
Have a mate down in Australind who is a **** hot windsurfer and has finally seen the light and wants to give kiting a shot
He's a big strapping lad 6ft 5" and 110kg's and he was asking me what size kite he should get to start?
Will a mod-aspect 12m be big enough with a larger (150++) TT?
Feed back appreciated

Cam
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
13 Aug 2004 8:55am
yeh i agree

12 (or even 10m?) as he has a bit of weight

would prob be his high wind kite down the track?

shunter
shunter
WA
441 posts
WA, 441 posts
13 Aug 2004 11:16am
I am of a simular weight or more and I would suggest that if he’s confidant start on a 13-14m mid asspect kite (slingy,yarga,flow,vegas,co2 etc). Don’t go any less than a 12m or he will struggle. Most of the guys around 80 kgs are starting on a 12m kite and having no problems with this size. At the start get out early while the seabreeze is light and get the skills. Bunbury is slightly lighter winds? A 150 TT is a good all round size make sure he gets something with a bit of width, check out addiction boards.

On a 12m kite and a 150 tt he wont get going unless its 16-18 knots and then he will have to fly the sucker around.

My most used kite is a 16m from 15-25ish and I am 115 kgs.

Big Mat (cott,) started on a 14m kite and never looked back

Hope that helps.

shane
Richard M.
Richard M.
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
13 Aug 2004 12:01pm
Good to see that the BIG FELLA'S are getting into it . I'm about 115-120kg depending on what l had for breakfast. My smallest kite is 13m and l wouldn't go any smaller than a 12m unless you really want to piss yourself off. Don't go cheap and nasty on the board side of things either because a good board is VERY important for bigger blokes. Something like a Cabrinah Vari Pro 158 or similar would be good , works for me .

Get Lessons to start off with as well, it will save you plenty and you can use there gear to confirm your kite and board sizes before you you buy your own.

Hope this helps
Big Richard
robbo
robbo
WA
306 posts
WA, 306 posts
13 Aug 2004 12:45pm
I got convinced into buying a 12m kite (I'm 105 Kg) as a starter kite. In anything less than 15 knots I'm flying that bugger hard to get going and stay there - however i think that being a beginner also has quite a lot to do with it, however i do enjoy having a smaller kite for those stronger wind days.

I have since bought a 16m, but i remember that when i first got my 12, it looked like a monster. Now i consider it to be my little baby kite...

In Perth theres always going to be strong wind days (check saturday - woohoo!) , so down the track its worth while having it.

my 2 cents
addiction
addiction
WA
69 posts
WA, 69 posts
13 Aug 2004 2:34pm
A good guide is to divide your weight by 7 this works out pretty close to the right size kite.
I'm a 100kg so a 14m works best for me.
This calculation tells me to look towards a 16 for a 110kg rider but for a first kite I'd look at 14m.
I also think that mid or low aspect kites seem to work better for heavy weights as they have more low down grunt to get you going.

Cheers
Pete

www.addictionkiteboards.com
kk
kk
WA
953 posts
kk kk
WA, 953 posts
13 Aug 2004 6:48pm
I agree a 12 may be a bit on the small side.. Especially considering that the wind at Australind (my regular spot) is a bit lighter than Perth on most days. I'm 95kg and went crazy starting on a 9 slingy.. My most used kite this last summer was a 15 Fuel and there were several days that I used my 18.
Ken
mattressbuster
mattressbuster
WA
177 posts
WA, 177 posts
14 Aug 2004 9:30am
For a big guy in australind for Seabreezes in summer you definately want something 14 -16 m2 . With bigger kites however comes more drag.

Do your research here because all kites were NOT created equal when it comes to foil efficiency. Some brands or models are gonna drag you down wind no matter what in this size - especially if you dont get your board selection spot on (not too small - at you size Dont go for anything under 41 cm wide ! Many crew are riding boards that are too small for the majority of their riding - or have the patience to wait until it is super windy before they get on the water. Go wider if possible and make sure the rockerline is super efficient )make sure you are getting good fins with a nice fine foil on them - be wary of any fins that are made of plastic.

The trick is to find a kite in this size that flies efficiently - and believe me it is very possible to come unstuck here. Some brands are excellent - many just plain suck in this area- its easy to make a small kite that flies sort of well but designing a big kite that flies efficiently is an art.

Ask aound and always keep kite efficiency in the back of your mind. It is SO important to your enjoyment of theis sport.


"Grunt" is often confused with a kite that just flies inefficiently.
And if someone tells you that a kite is "smooth" - ask them what that really means cos everyone uses this description to describe a kite they like but i dont believe it actually tells you anything about how the kite flies. Kind of a useless buzz word at the moment.

There is no spoon.
Mini Mal
Mini Mal
WA
298 posts
WA, 298 posts
15 Aug 2004 7:52pm
Get yourself a airush lift 16, something to tow your 1.1 ton around and plenty of performance to use also
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