Advice please.
Whats the best learning DVD out there that goes through everything in detail right up to advanced stuff ?
Heard good things about both of these - are there others - what is the one to get ?

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"He who enjoys most - WINS"

I bought 101 and IMHO thought it was pretty cr*p!

It skips through the moves really quick and although it shows you footage of how to do them, it looks like stock footage that has been sourced from all over the place so isn't done specifically for the dvd.

It says it last for 75 mins on the cover, but I'm sure it was over in about 35mins. There were a few other things on the dvd, but they were mostly adverts for other dvds!

Another one to checkouot is Kiting Progressions by Fat Sand Productions http://www.fatsand.com/Progression.aspx . It doesn't have nearly as many tricks as 101; it focuses on just a few at a time, but it breaks the trick down into "progressions" and shows each progression before adding the whole lot together. The video is all shot for the dvd and the tricks are shown from multiple angles so you can see exactly what they are doing.

If you just want to get a the basic idea of how to do several tricks then try 101, but I think it is really lacking in detail. If you want to know how to do a few tricks in detail try Progressions.

The video clip on the fat sands website doesn't show the progressions trailer, this is the correct link for the trailer www.fatsand.com/Videos/MoviePlayer.aspx?mfid=10

Is the Progression DVD in Perth? and if so where can I buy it.

I'll be in there to pick up a DVD this week


The Green Baron
Terror of the skies and vanquisher of poor spelling everywhere
(now I'm going to look silly if I make a spelling mistake)

puppet, you can borrow kiteboarding 201 and boosting of me if you like, give me an email and we can hook you up.

Cheers mate.

DAle

All of the Fat Sand DVD's including progression and AC are available from my local shop Kitepower. I am sure you could order a copy online.

Progression is by far the best instructional dvd out there! 101 is very wakestyle which is cool but your average joe was never built to be riding unhooked. People have started trying around my area as they see us riding unhooked but most get one drag from their trendy suicide and they are back in the shackle before you know it. I think you should learn to ride hooked in first unless you crank behind a boat and then it's up to you!

Dave.

thanks for sharing ..tricks of the week look good and im downloading the teaser for the training video now .
Does anyone in Perth stock this ??


STUART

WARNING: Don't trust kitefilm!

I loved their trick of the week clips and thought they were right on the money till I saw the 'launching the kite' one. Download it via the link above and see for yourself, it's farkin dangerous! They show 3 hot launches, one with the kiter being dragged down a small cliff while the launcher gets scalped by the kite lines. All the while they're saying this is the correct launch procedure! I'd be embarrassed and expecting to cop an earful if I rocked up at a new spot and got the angles so far wrong that I launched like they do on this 'instructional' vid. It seems to cover everything in great detail but I think kiting has progressed a long way since it was made.

FWIW I just got Kiteboarding 201, the only kite DVD I've owned. Most of the moves are too advanced but there's some that I'm trying. I was disappointed, 40 mins is a bit cheapass and some tricks rate about 20 seconds of instruction... which is hardly detailed instruction. I was also surprised to see a big section on board-offs, I thought wakestylers wouldn't be seen dead promoting them.

I agree that you can't write off a film based on a small clip, and I haven't seen the actual vid so I don't know how that section plays in full. Maybe they just picked dodgy bits for the trick of the week clip?

At 4 hours vs. as little as 40 mins, it's gotta be the best value and most detailed instruction around, and just for that reason it's worth having.

However I think that the launch is the most dangerous (ie potentially lethal) part of our sport. Getting it right is critical. Getting the instruction of it right is a big responsibility, especially as a lot of people dodge taking lessons - especially when they have a 4 hr instructional dvd to learn off.

I think it's safer to teach (as they seem to)that you should err on the side of a hot launch, specially in gusty conditions - a little drag while the kite heads to the edge is infinitely preferable to having the kite luff, roll over, then launch itself from directly downwind. But in all those clips the kite is fighting the kite pig and if it was any bigger it might have won. It's clearly in the wrong position. Also they don't seem to mention or show having one hand on the safety release.

/hey at least I'm not complaining about the ms-paint animations

Bah to you robbo can you reply to the original post?
Did you learn something from watching the trailers?
The original post was

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"Advice please.
Whats the best learning DVD out there that goes through everything in detail right up to advanced stuff ?
Heard good things about both of these - are there others - what is the one to get ?"

Now don't get me wrong but i was just giving a bit of advice as to the best instructional type video around - I have absolutly no doubt you have downloaded all the rest of the trailers to watch... So If you can please tell us one that is better we would like to know...
By the way the Boost videos, umm well there just as bad if not worse when it comes to lauching the kite... check out all the people being taken for a ride by the kite - what is all that about - as if launch a kite that far in the window...

So dave they actully say " in remote locations the technique is still the same" and they show him lauching next to that car... so what, it proves it can be done safely. I've seen idiots launch in worse locations that haven't had any instruction but have seen Boost....they think they know what they are doin....
Maybe that was the idea of putting it there? to scare you from launching in remote locations until your very good?....

The purpose of my post was to let you know that there are other films appart from Boost that are good instructional vids.

Quote "Anyone who promotes launching hot as a tip for noobs in a 10 sec promo should be put out of business!" lay off the drugs mate its called a trailer. I'm pretty sure if Boost was good enough to provide trailers of all the crap in there videos know one would have bought it?

So all i ask of you Robbo is to think a bit more next time, firstly, don't right me off for giving some advise as to a better video than Boost, secondly your quick to critisize but don't have a better instructional video to offer do you? Thirdy Naish are the major makers of the film and Don Montague (their kite designer) was the first guy to really get kitesurfing going and popular in Hawaii. Yeah they should definatley be out of business...

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"Yes-its worth writing off Robbo based on his 10 secs of bull crap."

Oh yeah one more thing Robbo its actually more like an old style Honda as they dont have Falcons in Hawaii, and he doesnt touch the car once, which is actually upwind of him.

Bah!

Instructional vids can only give you so much information no matter which one you watch. Maybe the best thing, if your worried about launching a kite, is to get lessons with an instructor. Nothing teaches you faster than having a go for yourself with professional instruction beside you. Plus you'll save time (being told the basics) and money (crashing their kite, not yours) So after lessons you should have enough skill to go out & kite safely on your own. After the lessons buy as many vids as you can, watch them all over & over to keep it fresh in your mind...