Posted this on the kitesurf yahoo group as well. I may have more luck here.

The problem is this: I actually get a real fever! Not before kiting but about 2-3 hours after I stopped.

I have been out 4 times now in several weeks and each time the same
thing happens. I feel fine (great actually cause it's so much fun )directly afterwards but start to feel really bad after 2 hours. My joints start aching, I start shivering (in 30 deg celsius), get muscle spasms and my temperature starts rising. This fever lasts for about 3 hours and then slowly subsides.

I am really amazed by this problem. I am used to spending hours in the water with surfing. Fitness should not be the issue therefore. I have pretty much excluded "sun stroke" or heat exhaustion for that reason as well. To further exclude that option I have been really careful the last sessions wearing a hat all the time, drinking enough etc.

There are only a few possible causes that I am still considering:
The first suspect is my Harness. Maybe this seat harness somehow restricts the blood flow (to my legs ?) which, when the bloodflow returns, causes these symptoms.
Otherwise I thought it could be a problem with my neck. The fact that you're looking up all the time at the kite may cause some pinched nerve or something.

What I would really (really!) want to know from the readers of this
group is whether anyone has ever come across similar problems. That would probably really help me in finding a solution.

Thanks,

Rog.

Where ?

Botany bay 3 times, Lake Munmorah (Central Coast) once.

I though it was a water thing as well at first but since it happened after kiting in different places at different times I excluded that option.

Thanks,
Rog.

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Originally posted by PsYLoR

Have you asked a doctor?

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Well...I will... soon...

It's just that in my experience the usual answer from doctors to injuries related to things like surfing, kitesurfing and windsurfing is: "What were you doing there anyway ?" and then they prescribe you to sit still on a chair or lay still on bed for the rest of your life.

There probably are positive doctors out there, I just never found them.

Thanks,
Rog.

Hey Rog, have you been o/s in the last few months??? You have the same symptoms as the two occasions that I have had (two different strains of) malaria!

Don't panic.......... it's not fatal.......... well...... only one strain is.......... and I'm still here! :)

all the best mate

NeilT

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Rog,

Have you actually checked your temperature when you feel feverish? Do you get these symptoms at any other time? You really ought to see your GP and get some investigation done as I am convinced he/she will get to the bottom of it and will be able to help you out. There are numerous causes for what you are describing and it will require some blood tests and possibly other investigation to sort out.

Good luck.

Allright, I am going to see a doctor already!

No surprisingly I couldn't make an appointment until wednessday though.

I still strongly doubt it could be malaria. In that case I would have picked it up in Lombok in february, be symptom free for 8 months and then it would suddenly show up after my first kite lesson (in October)?

Thanks for your answers and concern.

Rog.

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Originally posted by Hurrah

Rog,

Have you considered the possibility of dehydration and or hypothermia. I have experience this in the past when I used to road race on my bike. exactly as discussed.

sounds silly BUT hypothermia does not need cold temps just your temp dropping

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When you say "exactly as discussed" does that also mean you would feel fine at first and get this "fever" only after 2 or 3 hours?

Your suggestion doesn't sound silly at all. I did consider this. I have been near hypothermia while surfing without enough neoprene. What's happening with kiting doesn't feel like that though. I don't think my core temp drops much during the kiting because I am well suited up.

Dehydration was my main suspect after it happened the first time. The next sessions I have been really careful to make sure I drank plenty of fluids. I also made sure in the last session that I made it a short one (I was out for about 2 hours.)

Thanks,
Rog.

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Originally posted by poor relative

might be your blood sugar do you have a feed before you go out.

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Yeah, before and after. Low blood sugar feels different: you start shaking and feel dazy. You don't really get feverish with chills.

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Could be dehydration.....

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I wish it was. That would make it simple. But like I said above I am really careful now with drinking (no i am not drinking beer )

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Doubt its malaira to be honest, i've got it, or a strain of it. Get fevers once a year every year for about three days, in winter cant get out of bed. Fevers are full on. Knocks the S**t out of you

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I doubt it too but I am quite amazed that 3 ppl have already replied that have or had malaria in Oz. I thought it was quite rare to pick this up o/s.

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You need to go to your doc when your fevery then they can diagnose malaria with a simple blood test.

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That's hard (the timing) the fever lasts for several hours and only happens after kitesurfing. When it's on I feel way too miserable to go anywhere but also it would take a long time to get an appointment with my doctor.

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What do you do to help it subside??

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I take some panadol but I don't think it does much. I basically just wait.

Thanks for your reply Mike,

Rog.

Rog,

I felt great and was actually competing in a race. Finished the race and experienced as you described.

Re liquids, I now go kite-surfing with a camel back type bladder filled with just fresh water. Keeps me well hydrated as it's always there. I don't have to come in for a drink. Doesn't look to bad cos I bought a dark coloured camel back.

Good luck in your search for an answer

sounds like you have a case of kitesurfing fever!

As posted on Kite-Surf Group and waiting for your feedback...

Date: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:43 am
Subject: Re: kitesurf fever, the real one. Help!

--- In [email protected], rogerramjet2021 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
>
> The problem is this: I actually get a real fever! Not before kiting
> but about 2-3 hours after I stopped.

> What I would really (really!) want to know from the readers of this
> group is whether anyone has ever had similar problems. That would
> probably really help in finding a solution.

I am no doctor, and not experienced anything similar but some things
to try and think about etc... which may help you or someone else
diagnose the problem. :-)

> There are only a few possible causes that I am still considering:
> The first suspect is my Harness. Maybe this seat harness somehow
> restricts the blood flow (to my legs ?) which, when the bloodflow
> returns, causes these symptoms.

Possibbly not, cutting off circulation will cause pins and needles in
your legs and they will feel numb. Circulation will return as soon as
the harness is removed. When you do this the most likely effect would
be you may feel a bit dizzy for a few seconds, rather like when you
get up from sitting down to quick and feel very lightheaded. (a
change in Blood pressure)

- Maybe try a waist harness ?

> Otherwise I thought it could be a problem with my neck. The fact
> that you're looking up all the time at the kite may cause some
> pinched nerve or something.

Possibly, I have had long kite flying sessions (#hrs), which have
resulted in a stiff neck.
Have you had any serious/ bad falls before this started happening
(mild concussion etc...?)

Any other locals experience anything similar?

Do you get same symtoms at a different beach ?

Does this happen only when you kitesurf or after you have just been
surfing too ?

saltwater aspiration ? (Breathing in loads of salt water spray can
give flu-like symtoms)

Jellyfish larvae ? (reaction often after 4-24 hours after exposure)

Do you get same symtoms wWith or without a wetsuit ?
Is your wet suit new since the start of the symtoms ?

Neoprene Allergy - Are you allergic to the wetsuit you are wearing ?
A contact allergy to diethylthiourea in a wet suit ?

Q? Are you taking aspirin or anti-inflamatories regularly?

I experianced excactly these simptoms after taking ibruprofen regulaly for a couple of years. The joint swelling was v.painfull and is actually like a "backlash" from the reduction in swelling from aspirin groups. The fever and "crawling skin" and coldness was full on too! It waould last for a couple of days at a time but "came on" in sever bursts of a couple of hours at atime particularly after excercise.
Heres the problem as well. You might have a lot of aspirin intake via foods (salycilates in tasty foods). The body's tolerance of Aspirin groups build until a threshold is reached and then bang suddenly an "allergic" type of reaction. I now have to avoid indian lake the plague as the combination and level of spices (and salycilates) push my system over the edge and puffo - paino!
Maybe the other guys are onto it with malaria but look at your diet as well?

Getfunky

RogerRamjet,
I lived in Indo for some time and have had malaria a few times. If you were in Lombok in Feb, its the wet season and prime malaria time there where vivax and falciparum strains are prevalent and common.
If you are fit 8 months sounds about right for onset of vivax, but if you have the other strain or both it can kill you by swelling your brain. You better get checked out asap as depending where you are the Dr's here arnt right up on tropical diseases. Find out and get those Larium into you. All forms of malaria are curable if treated these days.

Originally posted by robbo

Roger,

you may have a hernia.

when i had one, i had the same symptoms as you - ONLY after a workout would it hurt.

Robbo,
I have a hernia, found it christmas eve, and am due an operation in 6 months, should I avoid kitesurfing? How did you get on with it?
I'd ask my doc but he probably won't know a thing about kitesurfing and will just say 'be careful'

veryprobably funny in your little world Jarran......

Did the hernia have any effect on your bedroom antics?