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taterchip
taterchip
QLD
211 posts
QLD, 211 posts
24 Jan 2005 9:39pm
HI all...

first time poster here and new to the sport and loving it so far.

Whats the general consensus on washing your kite down with fresh water after use ??

Obviously it must be totally dry before its packed away but many people have advised me not to rinse it down with fresh water after a session...

Having grown up on the beach and years of ocean water sports, i've always washed everything else down after useage...so why not my kite ?? I've heard the fresh water cause's mould but in my experience salt water can lead to the stitching to rot etc etc...

searching on the net seems to lead to mixed opinions on this - so whats the go - to wash or not ?

thanks for your help
PsYLoR
PsYLoR
QLD
927 posts
QLD, 927 posts
24 Jan 2005 11:23pm
It's fine to wash it down with fresh water as long as it is totally dry when you pack it up. Put it this way, It's going to do less harm than saltwater would. This is what one kite manual says,

"• A coating that results from using the kite
in salt water will not damage the kite.
However, rinsing in fresh water and drying
can’t hurt.
• Let the kite dry away from sun and wind.
• Failure to dry the kite after use, or rinsing
in fresh water can cause mildew,
which is unsightly but will not affect the
performance of the canopy.
• Be sure to prevent water, dirt and sand
from entering the bladders when using or
rinsing the kite.
• Failure to dry the kite after use or rinsing
can cause bleeding of dye from one panel
of cloth to another."
taterchip
taterchip
QLD
211 posts
QLD, 211 posts
25 Jan 2005 6:35am
yeh thanks for that, after more searching the net last night i found more other info that says it doesn't really matter too much - as long as its dry when packed.
but i guess the odd wash in fresh water will be ok for it
cheers


holgs
holgs
WA
303 posts
WA, 303 posts
25 Jan 2005 11:02am
When I used to occasionally rinse my windsurfing sails many years ago I noticed that if they weren't quite dry they would grow mould after a while (that was in Queensland though where everything goes mouldy quickly), whereas nothing seems to happen when they are rolled up wet with saltwater.
djo
djo
56 posts
djo djo
56 posts
25 Jan 2005 11:23am
simpler: Don't let your kite fall

www.surf-fast.com
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
25 Jan 2005 11:55am
Washing the kite???
What's that???
djo
djo
56 posts
djo djo
56 posts
25 Jan 2005 12:16pm
What about going out in the rain once in a while... That should do it?



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Emu
Emu
NSW
24 posts
Emu Emu
NSW, 24 posts
26 Jan 2005 10:26am
I ususally pack my kites away dry but salty.

Just recently I decided they were looking a bit grey so I put them in the bath one at a time, threw in a handful of washing machine powder, sloshed them around a lot and followed up with a rinse. I was surprised at the amount of dirt and grit that came out. I'm no expert, but I reckon the grit must shorten the life of the fibers. The kites look better for it too.

Other points:
- The washing machine is not big enough for a kite.
- Use your pump in reverse to evaculte the air out of the bladders first.
- close all the valves.
- have somewhere in mind to hang them out to dry before you start
- Don't ask your better half if you can use the bath to wash your kites (the answer will be "no").

Matt
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
26 Jan 2005 3:48pm
G'day,

Unless you're on tank/rain water I'd consider the risk of chlorine (and the other guff they put in too) reacting with the fabrics and bladders... esp' with continued use. Any residuals would be likely to react next time they're exposed to the sun.

I leave my kites parked while i pack everything else up... this is usually long enough for a good drying... older kites will take longer to dry as the cloth becomes porous... i try to leave the ribs inflated and pack the kite in a open mesh bag (out of the sun) when not in use... this allows it to dry off completely...

I kite in lakes, when at home, so the stink of dirt-water gets funky if the kites are left wet... i came back from Fiji with a wet kite packed in a vacuum bag (**the only way to pack a kite for travel**), it stayed packed for a week, it now has a pretty permanent black mildew mark... but is fine otherwise.

A good way to get the sand out is to inflate the kite in a very sheltered place and stand it on the rib tips (LE up, as if it were to launch hot)(**DON"T RIG THE LINES**). When it's dry, bang on the LE/ribs with your palm and brush the sand out... Paying particular attention to the LE/rib to sail/canopy joins and any other tucks around attachment points, etc.

Manipulating the kite with the bladders down can cause the bladders to shift and may, if you're not careful, burst next time you pump-up... it can also allow sand to get into the ribs/LE between the bladder and dacron/cloth, causing more wear.

Washing your kite in anything stronger than a very dilute dish-washing detergent could damage the coatings of some kites... most clothes powders are pretty caustic... and most soaps will leave a coating of rendered fat.

Most tent stores sell products that are specifically designed for use on fabrics similar to kites, so as not to interfere with coatings and water repelancy... these may be better than most options found under the sink at home. The Nikwax products work well on Chikara (used on foils)... they're a more expensive option, but what is your kite worth to you?!

Regards to all,
Azza.
BOOMAN
BOOMAN
VIC
333 posts
VIC, 333 posts
14 Nov 2005 10:09pm
hey one question in this whole washing machine thing (bought 2nd hand kite fairly dirty) it has tape on it should i take it off before...does it matter??? or should i just chuck her in the bath and scrub that crap out?
richierich
richierich
NSW
226 posts
NSW, 226 posts
14 Nov 2005 10:55pm
quote:
Originally posted by djo

simpler: Don't let your kite fall

www.surf-fast.com



if your kite doesn't get wet you are not trying hard enough. it should go in about once every 2 or 3 tricks. If it doesn't you are not progressing are you.
I know a guy in sydney who always washed and dried his kites and i think it does make them look better. These were old Naish ar5's and they hardly looked used. I couldn't be bothered myself.
professor
professor
QLD
277 posts
QLD, 277 posts
14 Nov 2005 10:06pm
talking about salt water and so forth on the kite and that you have been around the surf and in it all the time does that make you a salted taterchip
wow just imagine all that weight on the kite the drag from the dirty salted kite
if its got wet sand all over it and its all up under the leading edge great idea to wash it as it will rub like sand paper when dry, also where the struts connect to the canopy other then that if you dont have anything to do why not if it makes you feel good good luck I did a two foot jump today
Mr Plow
Mr Plow
VIC
428 posts
VIC, 428 posts
14 Nov 2005 11:10pm
I reckon kiters that wash their kites also probably was their cars, polish their shoes and clean their toilets....

...never seen the point myself.

Lets face it - the only reason to wash it is if it looks really crap up in the sky...in this case just take it for a quick wash in the ocean and then let it dry on the grass.

Most of the time your kite is either packed away in its bag or 30m up....who cares what it looks like so long as it works
likuid
likuid
QLD
330 posts
QLD, 330 posts
14 Nov 2005 10:22pm
don't bother with water, if the kite gets a bit dirty just use some sandpaper...

promise it won't hurt your kite

actually you could probaly use a gun...
taterchip
taterchip
QLD
211 posts
QLD, 211 posts
14 Nov 2005 10:25pm
quote:
Originally posted by professor

I did a two foot jump today


I saw it man i saw it !!!!!! woulda taken a photo cept it woulda been all ass yaknow...
robbo
robbo
WA
306 posts
WA, 306 posts
14 Nov 2005 9:40pm
my oldest kite is about 6 years old now.
you'd think id be really good at kiting... larf

anyway, i never washed it, tried to dry it before i packed it away, but not always and no stitching has ever weakened, or bladders burst.

the only thing that changed is now i can pack it up into a small backpack size, rather than the big kite size bag it used to have. sweet.

robbo.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
15 Nov 2005 12:18pm
quote:
Originally posted by djo

simpler: Don't let your kite fall



If your kite is not getting wet you are not trying hard enough!
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