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OG SUP
VIC
Australia
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Posted 08/07/2009, 5:59 pm
   
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Will this Board Suit Me? This is a very interesting question that I get asked all the time so I just wanted to post some thoughts.
1) Any review you see on the web only holds true for the person posting the review. Do not take it as gospel, that’s why I always say I am a kook surfer, weigh 105kg and 6ft tall. If the person reviewing the board is 85kg that will make a huge difference to the way it performs. I find the 11ft PSH a pleasure to ride in OH where Casso would find it boat like.
Example: 2 weekends ago a friend of mine who weighs 125kg ish wanted to try out my 10'6 wide AA and I agreed, I was happy to help. I should point out he is coming off a 12 ft laird.
He tried the 10'6WAA out in almost perfect flat water conditions on the river and it went really well. In his opinion it paddled faster than the Laird for him. We then took the board to Main Beach it was 1ft gutless surf but was a good indication of at least whether he could also stand on the board in rougher conditions.
My friend could easily stand on the board but struggled to catch a wave as I believe the gutless wave would not pick up and drive the board with his weight on it.
Change the wave to a 3ft wave with good push and he may have been in the ball park. He did learn that different boards suit different conditions and that he loves the glide of the longer board.
After he left I jump straight on the 10'6 and caught every wave I paddled for, but II am at least 20kgs lighter.
2) Be aware that the conditions you try to ride the board in will have a huge impact on how the board performs! If you demo the board in flat water that is only a very very basic indication of whether you will be able to ride it in the surf.
Where I live our predominant wind is onshore and SW about 150 days per year. This causes onshore slop and it is very tricky to paddle in.
I always take this into consideration when I look at a board and if I demo one, I demo it on a day that has these conditions to see how it goes.
If it works in these conditions it is an option to buy it. I then compare the other bords that also work in those conditions and make a decision based on that comparision.
3) Board weight is also being thrown around as a deciding factor. I personally prefer a heavy board as in the SW onshore choppy conditions i find the work better and are less effected by the chop and wind. This is one of the reasons I like the PSH boards, however a heavier board may not suit a significantly lighter person.
If I had nice clean condition all the time I would be more inclined to ride a lighter board like a 9'6 Naish.
4) Skill level is also a totally unknown factor, I have seen people jump onto boards for 5 mins and say they hate the board. I look at then an know they can ride them but they aren’t giving themselves a hope.
I have watched them surf and it is not the board that is at fault at all. I often see people standing too far back on the board on take off and placing the brakes on and complain that the board doesn’t glide.
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Or i see people with their feet wide out on the rails thinking that this is a more stable stance when in fact it is the worst thing you can possible do. A narrower stance within reason is far more stable.
Try what I say on a seesaw, stand in the middle feet close together and then push on the plank. You will find it hard to move the board as you have little leverage. Then progressively move your feet out wider and you will move the board back and forward easily. This is exactly what happens on a paddle board in parallel stance in the surf.
The above are just 2 examples, there are so many more
5) You need time to work out how to paddle a new board. When I first bought my 9'6WAA i fell off it all the time, its called learning. I now ride it in 25kn onshore and 30 knot offshore but it takes practice to do it and strength of purpose.
You will never jump straight onto a new board and have it sussed in 1 or 2 surfs unless your Matt Lumley, or Casso etc etc. These guys could take out my garage door and paddle it and make it look great. Watch a kook and see how they go is my suggestion and above all have faith you will get there.
6) Never rule out any brand before you try it. I love my PSH boards but I ride every board I can get my hands on. I swap with friends in the surf every chance I get that how I learn.
The reason I bought my Kialoa Methane paddle was I traded my crowbar with a guy at Roady one afternoon and loved it. Then I bought it.
I am hanging out to try out the new quickblade I may like it more, I dont know yet.
7) Once you buy the board relax, look it over get to know it. Have faith in the decision you have made! Surf it Surf it and Surf it.
I have been able to assist people surf boards they said were impossible to surf just by showing them video of themselves and they correct thier own faults.
We also use radio controlled helmets to talk to people in the surf to assist them to take a step forward on take off or get the foot back further to initiate a turn etc.
If your down our way and your having trouble with a board say hi and we will always see if we can help out. The girls and I love doing it.
Hope this helps
Regards
Phill
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laceys lane
QLD
Australia
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Posted 08/07/2009, 7:20 pm
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We also use radio controlled helmets to talk to people in the surf to assist them to take a step forward on take off or get the foot back further to initiate a turn etc.
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if you can get me a radio controlled board i'm there  |
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Marvin
WA
Australia
307 Posts |
Posted 08/07/2009, 9:17 pm
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ahhh... the voice of reason, or maybe experience... well said OG (and thanks for the other pointers - all good)
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DavidJohn
VIC
Australia
5464 Posts |
Posted 09/07/2009, 7:26 am
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Phill.. I agree on the wide stance thing.. It's a common mistake and can lead to a bad habit.
I think shoulder width with at max and work towards as narrow as you can.
That way when you do get a sudden chop you can go a little wider for a moment to regain control and then go back to narrow again.
Hey Phill.. Have you ever noticed how close Matt Lumley's feet are together when he's paddling out.. 
DJ
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laceys lane
QLD
Australia
1959 Posts |
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DavidJohn
VIC
Australia
5464 Posts |
Posted 09/07/2009, 7:57 am
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btw.. That red cross and green tick that I put on that pic was for stance.. not the girls.. 
DJ |
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Tux
VIC
Australia
443 Posts |
Posted 09/07/2009, 9:25 am
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| Hi Phil....I;m after a flat water with the dog/downwinder/small surf/giant surf/nose rider that surfs like short board looks like a classic long board, doens't weigh to much, is made locally by a super popular big name brand that makes me surf like laird, makes me attractive to the opposite sex and comes in red....what do you recommend |
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tha dogman
NSW
Australia
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Lobes
Papua New Guinea
699 Posts |
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DavidJohn
VIC
Australia
5464 Posts |
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Tak
NSW
Australia
16 Posts |
Posted 09/07/2009, 10:02 am
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Thanks Phill
This is exactly why I read this forums every day - as a beginner I'm after as many useful tips as I can get and I didn't realise I was doing it wrong having my feet wide out at the edge of my deck grip - can't wait to shake off this cold my boys have brought back from kindie so I can get back out there and try it the right way :)
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tha dogman
NSW
Australia
1580 Posts |
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champcrow
SA
Australia
800 Posts |
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laceys lane
QLD
Australia
1959 Posts |
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champcrow
SA
Australia
800 Posts |
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champcrow
SA
Australia
800 Posts |
Posted 12/07/2009, 9:07 pm
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| Just had a further look down the blog and it say's it's 9'10'' Wing Swallow and in his words "they are flying out the door." |
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laceys lane
QLD
Australia
1959 Posts |
Posted 12/07/2009, 9:08 pm
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thx, i checked it out. the aqua winged swallow looks nice and how are those curtis fins |
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