Done.
Thanks Mineral for bringing this to our attention.

yes guy's and girl's... do the survey and make you voice heard with this topic if you live in the area. some good might eventually come from your feed back, and not just on the kite exclusion zone bits. not that they are that much of a prob in the area but a kite free zone in front of the surf clubs and swimming beaches is a good thing.

So did I get a red thumb for telling Joondalup City Council that many kiters are dangerous fools...... or for balancing that comment with saying that they should be included in the list of stakeholders?

How anyone can get a red thumb for stating both sides is beyond me. What part do you disagree with nameless redthumber?

pierrec45 said...

(Glad my boss is paying for my viewing time...)

lets hope hes not reading the forum

I filled it out and gave them a link to the thread on here about how that little kid had to go to hospital after being mamed by a poledancer. and a link to the injuries thread on here to show them how dangerous windsurfing is to the general public.

lotofwind said...

I filled it out and gave them a link to the thread on here about how that little kid had to go to hospital after being mamed by a poledancer. and a link to the injuries thread on here to show them how dangerous windsurfing is to the general public.

well done mate, your my hero.

lotofwind said...

I filled it out and gave them a link to the thread on here about how that little kid had to go to hospital after being mamed by a poledancer. and a link to the injuries thread on here to show them how dangerous windsurfing is to the general public.

That's alright
I ran out of room in the comments section for all the links for kitemares, localized bad behavior, organized disobedience and the respectful comments about councils of Joondalup and Melville

and that was just for the last 2 years

ha ha ha lol lol
And you wonder why we drop in on ya's.lol

lotofwind said...

ha ha ha lol lol
And you wonder why we drop in on ya's.lol

I didnt make smartass comments about the dangerous kiteing behaviour?
Unless you mean the dropping in dig?If that does happen to you,it wouldnt be dangerous as the kiter would be downwind,would probly just annoy you.
Since the start of wave riding there have been drop in's between surfers,boogers,goat boats etc.
Any problems get sorted pretty quick in the water or on the beach without getting councils involved.
Its no secrete to council or kiters that most of windsurfers concerns are not for the general public but more for your their problem with not getting(sharing) the waves or riding to different rules to what you think are correct,which maybe,but not what the kiters you have a problem with think.Education is the thing that needs to be worked on so all agree on the un-written rules of the waves.
Just need to read the threads on this forum to see nearly all your posts are negitive to kiteing.

Just my thoughts.

lotofwind said...

I didnt make smartass comments about the dangerous kiteing behaviour?
Unless you mean the dropping in dig?If that does happen to you,it wouldnt be dangerous as the kiter would be downwind,would probly just annoy you.
Since the start of wave riding there have been drop in's between surfers,boogers,goat boats etc.
Any problems get sorted pretty quick in the water or on the beach without getting councils involved.
Its no secrete to council or kiters that most of windsurfers concerns are not for the general public but more for your their problem with not getting(sharing) the waves or riding to different rules to what you think are correct,which maybe,but not what the kiters you have a problem with think.Education is the thing that needs to be worked on so all agree on the un-written rules of the waves.
Just need to read the threads on this forum to see nearly all your posts are negitive to kiteing.

Just my thoughts.

A profile that is too true:

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Sports: Kitesurfing, Surfing and Fishing

Try this, it might help you understand what you are doing here...
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lotofwind said...
Yes it probly will when you talk right of way rules to vessels etc, but it is different in the waves as you should know.,but I think its more a case that its not a safety issue to public on the beach,which is what councils are worried about,but more that windsurfers tend to not like kiters in the waves(for what ever reasons,no need to re-hash) ,like boogie boards dont like surfers.So the windsurfers are voteing on that opinion,not the public saftey to people on the beach.

If a boogie boarder went to council about being dropped in on they would probly say,sort it out yourself.

I suppose you haven't considered the fact that its the safety concerns about kiters which leads to the opinion of not wanting kiters in the waves, in the same area as other water users. Who in their right mind wants 100m+ of hard to see but almost unbreakable lines rolling through the surf everytime a kiter drops his kite?

Had a quick look at the proposals, looks like the council was proposing kiting exclusion zones around the SLSC and swim areas... I'm not sure why kiters don't welcome this? I suppose they are afraid that the same kooks who made it necessary for laws about staying away from swimmers to be imposed in a broader sense with area restrictions, would break the new restrictions and force kiting to be banned all together from said beaches.

So are kiters voting against it because they don't think it is a good idea to have high-risk water activities seperated from swimmers? or because they think the kooks in their fraternity will get them banned off the beach all together.

End of the day, I have no issues sailing with kiters, and I've launched and landed more then my fair share of kites. I think I'm just lucky where I sail that there isn't so much of a crowding problem.

Theres no point, we digress.