Where to attach safety Rev2

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tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
14 Mar 2010 8:22pm
Hi all,

Been unhooking with my twin tip for a while now, and am about to start on my surfboard. Where do you guys put your safety? On the chicken loop it gets in the way of hooking back in. Is there a better option?

Cheers,
Tom
sammyd
sammyd
QLD
101 posts
QLD, 101 posts
15 Mar 2010 8:22pm
you can put it on the chicken loop - but beware this can lock it to you your harness hook - happened to me once was scary -
the other thing you can do attach to the rope above the chicken loop
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
16 Mar 2010 2:09pm
Is it a "death" leash???.
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
16 Mar 2010 10:51pm
sammyd said...


the other thing you can do attach to the rope above the chicken loop


This is the safer option if you don't do loops, but if you unhook and loose the bar / kite, it is more likely to have some tangles...
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
17 Mar 2010 1:08pm
Cool, thanks.

So if I attach it to the chicken loop I could get locked into the kite, and if I attach it to the rope, it can tangle? I think I will take the latter option.....seems safer to me.

Anyone know of a way to rig it somehow so you don't get locked to the kite, or create tangles? Guess not otherwise it would have been mentioned.

Cheers,
Tom
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
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17 Mar 2010 11:18am
tmiddled said...

Cool, thanks.

So if I attach it to the chicken loop I could get locked into the kite, and if I attach it to the rope, it can tangle? I think I will take the latter option.....seems safer to me.




Yep, seems like a "death leash"

sebbu
sebbu
WA
154 posts
WA, 154 posts
17 Mar 2010 11:52am
Other option would be to buy one of the new SS chicken loops and fit it. The 2010 chicken loops have a solid metal attachment point inside the loop which works well.

Attaching on the loop with the old bars means that you loose your whole kite when you accidentally pull the safety release when grabbing for the chicken loop - poorly designed pull tab, as opposed to the newer 'push' system (has happened to me 2-3 times when I have used an 09 bar). And you can get the attachment problem already mentioned.

Attaching to the rope is a bit clunky, as it leads to tangles a bit easier, but I also find that the clip sitting in between the chicken loop and the bar mean that the bar will 'slip' to one side or the other when unhooked. This is more of a problem with freestyle though, when you're trying to keep your kite dead still @ 45 degrees.

hope that helps.
bobjaan
bobjaan
WA
314 posts
WA, 314 posts
17 Mar 2010 2:09pm
The best way I have found is this. Take an extra pig tail (Looped at both ends)
Attach one end to the Centre Line safety metal ring. Then atach your safety to the other end of the pigtail and also attach it to your chicken loop.

This does two things. If you want to ride suicide then you are already attached to the chicken loop. Unhooking is no problem.

If you accidentally release the chicken loop then the kite will flag on the centre line as the leash is also attached to this.

Similarly if you in the waves and you drop the kite and you can't relaunch it and it is going to get smashed you have the ability to release your chicken loop safety on (suicide) so that it flags onto the centre line.

Get best of both worlds.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
17 Mar 2010 2:35pm
around your neck.
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
17 Mar 2010 3:31pm
...this setup is equal to flying the kite on suicide leash...good for unhooked freestyle, but not for waves...and for self landing with this setup, you will definitely need the OSH
...the rev does not depower as much as some other kites, so it has still lots of pull when fully depowered or on suicide leash, so this setup is for expert riders, and I mean EXPERT riders only, and is not very safe at all in overpowered conditions...

Saffer said...

The best spot I found was a simple mod to the current bar to avoid the get stuck in the spreader bar problem and keep the bar spinnable. I'll try take a photo of the bar tonight and post it. It takes about 2 minutes to do and doesn't affect the bar at all.




dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
17 Mar 2010 3:35pm
and the winner is.......^^^^^^^
Nickoff
Nickoff
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
17 Mar 2010 6:55pm
couldn't you just attach it to the O-SH1T handle ring??
jarvo
jarvo
NSW
86 posts
NSW, 86 posts
17 Mar 2010 7:21pm
Where is it designed to go ?
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
17 Mar 2010 8:05pm
Nickoff said...

couldn't you just attach it to the O-SH1T handle ring??


Where it's designed to be attached......
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
17 Mar 2010 9:41pm
OK cool, thanks.

Even though improved, the 2010 chicken loop means either:

A) you connect suicide with no possibility of flagging the kite

B) Have it hooked to the Ring thing that is attached to one of the lines. This means that if you unhook and accidently let go of the bar, you will flag straight away. Making practicing unhooked tricks hard.

With the option that Bobjaan gave, I still have have the possibility to accidentely lock myself into the bar when hooking back in.

So, I think connecting myself to the rope, or slightly modifying the bar as Saffer suggested is my most suitable option.

Cheers again,
Tom

Mister Dugong
Mister Dugong
368 posts
368 posts
17 Mar 2010 6:47pm
this could be a very interesting (read controversial) thread covering different bars and riding styles....
herbyburger
herbyburger
WA
303 posts
WA, 303 posts
17 Mar 2010 7:06pm
im a bit pissed off with slingshot, firstly, you pay a premium price for their kites fitted with cheap arse pulleys that wear through the bridle lines, then on the bar inside the chicken loop area they install a cheap arse ball bearing that is not even stainless steel so it rusts out and disintergrates within the first year of use.

lift your game or lose peoples business ...
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
17 Mar 2010 11:38pm
This is what I was talking about. Excuse the photo pic quality. You can still grab the OSH in the waves.



tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
18 Mar 2010 9:10am
Excuse my ignorance, but is the OSH the red thing that your leash is designed for?
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
18 Mar 2010 9:43am
Nope, the OSH are two handles normally found on the ends of the bar attached to the back lines. Its so you can release onto a single line if something goes wrong like a front line break where your leash may be attached to the front line.
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