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15 Jul 2026 11:56pm
Make your own....
The surf source board supply store is in your back yard.
Atlantic beach ,Florida
Then you get the board to your spec and the satisfaction of building your own magic carpet......


surfsource.net



Board shaping program
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Reply in Topic: Windfoil in the waves
Gwarn
Gwarn
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252 posts
9 Jul 2026 1:08am
John340 said..







Hess said..





John340 said..
I foiled Kanaha with Hess last November. We had some decent swell, over 2m on some days. I couldn't keep me 899 foil in the water going down the face of waves over 2m. A 808 would have been better. The 899 was great in anything under 2m









We did have some great days John, but you are being modest. As I know you were riding bombs that there close to mast high and making it look easy in those "Gentle Giants".

You and I have the same opinion.
Of course most foils will work most of the time as folks do go out a play around in big swell on bigger foils. However even on a head high day if I want to come down a fast wave (say one with an interval in the teens) and scream as fast as you can into a powered up bottom turn I have more fun with a smaller turnier foil. But that is just me. I find on a bigger lifter foil you don't come down the wave as fast and if there is too much lift its harder to control.






The side shore wind at Kanaha is a game changer for riding waves. Instead of flagging the sail, you ride waves like a windsurfer, you keep the power in the sail and sheet in a toeside bottom turn and only sheet out about half way through the heelside cut back off the top of the wave. Linking multiple bottom turns and cutbacks on one wave feels fantastic. My Slingshot Phantasm 899 was perfect until the waves got over 2m.


Maui next on my bucket list before I get benched. Hoping for next summer ....
Gwarn
Gwarn
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252 posts
14 Jun 2026 3:11am
sailortrash said..
If u ride one board, one wing and one sail (one spot?) - well I won’t argue. But that’s not really a quiver 😆
and you only need adjustability if you change something

I want the flying carpet experience, hate it when you lose stability underfoot. Doesn’t matter if i chase knots or work on upwind 360, I want to be able to push down on that foil and step on it. And stay pitch stable. I put the cl just behind the front straps, a little more behind if there are braking waves

what really killed the windfoil game was the idea that tuttle was good enough. While wingers got tracks and developed, windfoilers struggled with the front wing locked just in front of the back strap, unable cruise, gybe or climb upwind. Useless gear, total waste of money. No wonder they went to winging.

I ride many spots with this set up as long as theirs 15 knots+++ All over the Sf bay area and Baja Mexico. Yes it is a quiver just a easy one...


most people moved over to wing because they are wimps....











I have the Magic Carpet Ride....


Gwarn
Gwarn
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252 posts
14 Jun 2026 2:28am
sailortrash said..
Look, Tuttle is fin-solution, to deal with side forces
there is very little of this in a foil, the force is vertical
doesn’t matter if the box goes through the deck, the pressure point is just in front of mast/deck attachment area
what u need is a pedestal solution. We see that implementation in mast/fuse connections. Starboard even went all in with 4 bolts. But those forces are way smaller than what u get on the deck in front of the mast.

u can ride a foil on a power box if you have a plate (i did it for years). It will hold until the sandwhich deformes.

it’s tricky to scale a proper pedestal solution, I get it, and garage factories might not be up to the challenge. You likely make less money vs tuttle where everything is in place. Doesn’t change the fact that its crappy solution that doesn’t even meet the basic user requirement of trimming your setup.


if u cant move your foil, u have to move your foostraps instead. I actually have pals considering that effort on the beach..




The most special quality of windfoiling it allows you to have your own style of riding (look at things with a flexible outlook.)
It's sounds like your style is very precise and technical and I get that.
For my style tuttle is best as I use a long mast so less drag.
I build my own boxes and they are strong. I don't need to adjust my foil placement As I only use front straps and just move my front foot fore or aft in the strap. As for my back foot is allover the back of the board. This is just my style of riding.
My set up is one board 149cm x 73cm ***mast 115 , front wing slingshot730 pfm 1350 cm ***900 fus *** 380 moses stab**** 3.6 maui s2 Ninja freestyle sail.
No muss or fuss picking gear
I only go if it 15 knots to 26 it's windy at my local spot I'm blessed.....
I like it easy



my tulle box
.69 kilo

Some like track some like tuttle..
Yesterday wind 1:30 till 4:00 with some swell time




don't cry and just ride.....
Gwarn
Gwarn
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252 posts
13 Jun 2026 11:02pm
Go Tuttle or go home....





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13 Jun 2026 10:56pm
Here in the San Francisco Bay parawing is the a fast growing discipline.
The boards are going through a fast evolution curve as touchdown drag is a big issue for them.
The Mikes Lab foils are the gold standard her on the bay .Mike has both tuttle and track and his kite racing masts are 5 bolt tuttle heads.
The board design for slingshot Project Drag came from a one of the top watermen on the bay and home-grow board builder . Ken Adgate
The best best part is that Mike Zajicek (Mikes Lab) rides Ken Adgate boards and is a parawinger.
Michael Mckinley is long time windsurfer,windfoiler and now parawinger from Berkeley.
Also all three of them always have kind words and compliments about my windfoiling style. I blessed that I get to ride with such good riders and legends. I love my local spot Treasure Island San francisco.....
Let the triggering start.....
www.instagram.com/ken_adgate/

www.instagram.com/lavagoatlabs/
www.facebook.com/groups/mikeslab







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