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FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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30 Jan 2010 2:19pm
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1 trillion in $100 bills
choco
choco
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30 Jan 2010 3:45pm
FlySurfer said...

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Our combined national debt (taking all government, personal, private and business debt into account) is $2.32 trillion ($3.4 trillion including equity) as of September last year,what's a trillion then
ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
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30 Jan 2010 4:44pm
choco said...

FlySurfer said...

Full description: www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html




Our combined national debt (taking all government, personal, private and business debt into account) is $2.32 trillion ($3.4 trillion including equity) as of September last year,what's a trillion then


when you say "our" do you mean the Australian national debt...?

The Australian national debt is $114bn USD.

www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=australian+national+debt
choco
choco
SA
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30 Jan 2010 4:32pm
ginger pom said...

choco said...

FlySurfer said...

Full description: www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html




Our combined national debt (taking all government, personal, private and business debt into account) is $2.32 trillion ($3.4 trillion including equity) as of September last year,what's a trillion then


when you say "our" do you mean the Australian national debt...?

The Australian national debt is $114bn USD.

www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=australian+national+debt


as stated " all government, personal, private and business "
Australia's total household debt is currently approximately $750 billion - about $40,000 for every man, woman and child.alone
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23685 posts
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30 Jan 2010 2:41pm
Wow!

you could go to the 2 Dollar Shop half a trilion times with all that
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
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30 Jan 2010 6:38pm
man. utd total debt around 650million pounds i heard.

interest on principle 68.5million pounds each year.

money from ticket sales alone, guessing around 30million pounds per year.

with no debt they could let everyone in for free and still be way better each year than at present.

ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
1746 posts
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31 Jan 2010 10:11am
petermac33 said...

with no debt they could let everyone in for free and still be way better each year than at present.




the fabian society would agree...

unfortunately the people who pay off the debt (and therefore own the club) might want a return

j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
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31 Jan 2010 9:42am
debt is all in the mind.......I owe no-one nothing

so that upset the calculations.... If you believe that con trick,

your playing right into their hands. I am rich beyond belief

like that lotto winner they dug up in the good old U S of A, cuppla days ago [}:)]

...............................................enjoy
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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31 Jan 2010 2:00pm
In a interest on debt (usury) based economy (ours)... money doesn't come in to existence unless it's borrowed.

Government loves u borrowing cos that makes our GDP go up.
Cos we is simple we bid up house prices with money we don't got, bank balance goes up and GDP goes up, everybody happy.
Party goes on until the interest/usury is too much to pay, then the system reboots.

JUST remember EVERY time you borrow, you are making your fellow Australians poorer by increasing the money supply (inflation).

arkgee
arkgee
NSW
639 posts
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31 Jan 2010 5:21pm
I owe I owe it's off to work I go
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
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1 Feb 2010 9:19pm
choco said...

as stated " all government, personal, private and business "
Australia's total household debt is currently approximately $750 billion – about $40,000 for every man, woman and child.alone

There are 4 of us in our household so that makes it $160,000.
Hmmm I would much rather that figure than the one I have now

sausage
sausage
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2 Feb 2010 11:01am
Mark _australia said...

Wow!

you could go to the 2 Dollar Shop half a trilion times with all that


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oops - hope no one just read how bad I was at maths.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
2 Feb 2010 1:38pm
I don't owe anything, I'm WAY in surplus, but the f*cker$ around me keep borrowing more and more and things get more and more expensive, so I'm losing money.

That and the f*cking government steeling from me every damn quarter (3 months).

I saw a financial adviser last year, and he recommend I borrow > 1 million, buy 2-3 properties while they're cheap (cheap as carbon fiber), rent them out... "with rental income you'll be very comfortable".

He'd be right if property prices continued to defy the laws of logic, which they have been for 8 years... but that's the problem, the rest of the world sobered up (apart from Belgium and South Africa)... where as our government said hell no lets get CRAZY... I always wondered how they'd keep it going and the latest is 12% super contributions + 70 yr retirement... you all know where your Super goes, right?

If that happens, I'm out of here (rejoice) or I'll liquidate, send my money abroad, stop working and live off "yous".
Sasha
Sasha
VIC
103 posts
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2 Feb 2010 3:14pm
Totally agree with flysurfer !!!
brucey65
brucey65
79 posts
79 posts
2 Feb 2010 12:26pm
i dont agree with this entire forum .. i think its a load of bloody garbage
cisco
cisco
QLD
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2 Feb 2010 9:17pm
There is such a thing known as the "Debt Trap" and it is laid for individuals, families, companies and countries.

For individuals and families it is baited with all sorts of wonderous things. Prestigeous houses, cars, boats, appliances and most wonderous of all, money to trade on the share market.

For companies it is baited with all sorts of clever "Tax Advantages".

For countries it is baited with "Social Programs".

No matter who the intended trapee is, the trap is designed to be inescapeable.

What the trappers have been doing of recent times is springing the trap on untrapables, ie those that they know have no chance of surviving the trap. You can not get blood out of a stone.

The trappers (Big Banks) have successfully passed the responsibility for the stones to those that feed the stones ie the government of the countries (ie the taxpayers) in which the stones live. This results in what is known as B.B.B.O.s (Big Bank Bail Outs.)

Obama, Brown and Rudd are making a show of talking about making the banks pay back for the bail outs, but we all know that will not happen.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
3 Feb 2010 12:47pm
Australia's property boom is 1 big pyramid scheme. Every where I go I'm encouraged to buy property.

I work with 12 people...with ages from 23-55, 7 of them have bought properties in the past 2 years, 4 of them already had... and I'm the only 1 renting.

Our banks are borrowing money from abroad because we don't have the money creation in Aus to keep them satisfied.

The banks aren't lending to developers cos that keeps inventory low, and prices high.

A bank is willing to lend me 10x my income (with rental income)... for purchasing property.

When this blows it's taking the country down.

The government will have to print money, causing our bonds and money to go to sh!t.

The situation is so serious, I really can't figure out how it's going to pan out. All we need is 1 little issue with China, and say buy buy Australian prosperity.

The government made a real big mistake encouraging property ownership in the last 18 months. 18% rise in Vic, 12% in NSW.
The world was deleveraging, and they said get as much debt as you possible can.

We were in a very attractive position with $60Billion surplus, now the countries in debt with nothing to show for it expect the 3rd most expensive property prices by income in the world.

www.ldp.org.au/



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