Yeah we were looking at the Chrysler 300C today. I have a softspot for this car. It reminds me of the old Chrylser Valiants. I owned a few Valiants and loved them. Love the fact its such a big car but has little interior space. Just like a Charger. Totally opposite to my Mitsubishi Delica.

Anyway the Chrysler 300C is about $50K. In yankee land they around about $30K new. I doubt it costs $20K to convert the car to left had drive and bring the over to Australia.

If the US dollar collapses and they go into hyper inflation, which unless the government gets its fiscal deficit under control (highly unlikely as the military is sacrosanct), then how will we compare our prices to the US?

Mobydisc said...


Anyway the Chrysler 300C is about $50K. In yankee land they around about $30K new. I doubt it costs $20K to convert the car to left had drive and bring the over to Australia.

one of my mates is a car lover also and was telling me few months ago that the govrnmnt has put some tax on OS cars or cars you have to convert or something like that (yeah i listen good). Him and all his car clubby's were spewin cause they were going to import some old classics but now its not gna b worth it.

I guess it's the burden we have to bear for being America's bestest friend in the whole wide world.

It's not American it's CHINESE. Everything is made in China. Chances are 50% of your car is made in China.

My issue is that inbetween us and China somebody is adding > 100% to the price OVER and ABOVE what they add in the US.

I even have to buy Chinese made shoes in the UK because it's 1/2 price compared to Australia.

Check it out yourself... Merrell Striker Goals UK price A$101; Aus price A$185.

Or maybe Australians just have way too much money and don't mind paying more than everyone else in the WORLD

Thank you Tim Berners-Lee for the internet... ooo my ebay auction is about to close (more money out of Oz ).

FlySurfer said...

It's not American it's CHINESE. Everything is made in China. Chances are 50% of your car is made in China.

My issue is that inbetween us and China somebody is adding > 100% to the price OVER and ABOVE what they add in the US.

I even have to buy Chinese made shoes in the UK because it's 1/2 price compared to Australia.

Check it out yourself... Merrell Striker Goals UK price A$101; Aus price A$185.

Or maybe Australians just have way too much money and don't mind paying more than everyone else in the WORLD

Thank you Tim Berners-Lee for the internet... ooo my ebay auction is about to close (more money out of Oz ).

Where do you think most of Chyslers range come from, Jeep as well.....

Its Mercedes.

And most of the parts come from.....

Belgium.....or Singapore......

So you 300C that you can buy in the states for 30gs but costs 50gs here but most of the parts come from Europe except for the 6.1lt Hemi.

Compare your spending power, costs versus wages like Laurie says, not costs based on exchange rates.

US has an economy based on mass consumerism like no other country. Their economy works by millions spending very little, very often and continually disposing and replacing what they have. In this model seller-customer relationships for future sales is as important as the profit of the item that is being sold.


Pretty sure the same people moaning about things costing apparently more here, are the same people who complain about mass consumerism and the acts of authorities to control the masses into a bland mediocre compliant mob.

So before you complain too much ask yourself the general question whether you would rather have a mass consumer based throwaway society or one in which material possessions have value and worth.

I know where I would rather be, and instead of just posting a utube clip and have Laurie delete my post I intend to do something about it by not buying into the US consumer model (well, OK I will a bit, but just a bit)

(For example - my car was built in 1984, I bought it second hand and is still going fine. If I was american I would have bought and scrapped 10 different new vehicles between now and then, and hence the US car sellers can sell cheaper cars than the dealer I bought my car off - it is not quite as simple as exchange rate conversions, and there is probably no conspiracy by Australian companies to screw the australian watersport enthusiast)

In fact, thinking about it, if you have got the cash to purchase a 55" 3D LCD TV then you probably need to be thinking about reducing your carbon footprint.

But - if you have the desire to buy a 55" 3d LCD TV then you probably won't ever think about it yourself and hence perhaps the inflated cost should be the punishment for not living a greener more sustainable life.

I'm starting to think it is a bit ironic for Flysurfer to complain about about the US government models, the 'NWO' and the such like and then also moan about having to pay for unneccessary luxury items, whose which sole purpose is to deliver the messages that are so evil and come from such a corrupt source.

So my suggestion is to solve both problems - don't buy a 55" 3D LCD TV.

Instead go out for a walk and say hello to your neighbour (unless your neighbour is PM33, then I would stay in and shut the curtains and turn all the lights off)

FlySurfer said...

With US$ parity it's easy for the average punter to see how much we pay for the same product in the lucky country.

In fact - and I am going now so last rant for the evening -

I would say with US$ parity it's easy to make out of context and simplified assumptions that are actually incorrect, damaging and based on arguments that may incite popular support but are not realistic when analysed in a whole of context situation and it is a time for us to reflect and truely appreciate why we are in the lucky country and why we don't want to be a US clone or northern european colony

FlySurfer said...
us paying a fair price for a product doesn't make Australia a worse place to live if anything it can only make it an even better place.

I went to the shop today paid a fair price for a whoopeeeee cushion.
It improved my families lives no end especially my daughters who cried with laughter
Is that what you mean?

FlySurfer said...

laurie said...
Are you comparing apples with apples?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_law

China minimum pay/hour: $0.39
US minimum pay/hour: $7.25
AUS minimum pay/hour: $15.00

Flysurfer said
So here's the deal Australian distributors are ripping us off plain and simple

After seeing the above pay scales, it might suggest we look after our low income earners pretty well, and other countries either can't, or don't want to.

I love Australia, there's no place I'd rather be.

Well that would explain why we get paid twice as much www.worldsalaries.org
Somebody in my sector monthly income:
Australia $ 3,312
USA $ 4,710

Laurie weren't not discussing standards of living or even quality of living, were discussing cost of products... us paying a fair price for a product doesn't make Australia a worse place to live if anything it can only make it an even better place.

Fly, get your time machine going and you might make the $4,710 that you US counterpart gets

GreenPat said...

doggie said...


Fly, get your time machine going and you might make the $4,710 that you US counterpart gets

Is this a time machine for going to the future, when Australian salaries are 42% higher, or going into the past, say 2004/2005 when the numbers on that site came from?

Or just the fact that if you can build a time machine, you could sell it for lots of money?

I think in his case both cos he aint gettin paid enough as his US mate

getfunky said...

poor relative said...

FlySurfer said...
us paying a fair price for a product doesn't make Australia a worse place to live if anything it can only make it an even better place.

I went to the shop today paid a fair price for a whoopeeeee cushion.
It improved my families lives no end especially my daughters who cried with laughter
Is that what you mean?

Every time I but a whoopee cushion (ahem.. for the kids of course) it only manages to squeek out 2 decent @rse bubble eefects before splitting and becoming a useless piece of rubbish.

Where can I buy some quality fubbular enhancement?

Money is no object for some quality entertainment hardware... for the kids o' course.

Clark rubber

getfunky said...

Cool! Clark flubber it is.

Cheers.

Jeepers Funky, I have more posts than you, how is that even possible

Yea he is killing it!! I have noticed that you get alot of red thumbs over in the windsurf forum there mate! What have you done I can sorta guess but bloody hell!!!

Hey Laurie, it's been a while since we saw the post count leader board, last I saw it Poor Rellie was at the top, I think he might even have been pipped now?

SELECT TOP (10) username, COUNT(post) AS posts
FROM forums
GROUP BY username
ORDER BY posts DESC

(or some such...)