Whats this got to do with windsurfing, kitesurfing, surfing, stand up paddleboarding, sailing, land sailing or sitting on your bum watching the waves?

You don't like Muslims. You don't want them coming to Australia. Thats fine. The Aborigines probably didn't want the British coming to Australia either.

Just remember Muslims aren't some monolithic block where everyone thinks the same. If you maintain an us vs them mentality all you will get is an us vs them reality.

Mobydisc said...

Whats this got to do with windsurfing, kitesurfing, surfing, stand up paddleboarding, sailing, land sailing or sitting on your bum watching the waves?

You don't like Muslims. You don't want them coming to Australia. Thats fine. The Aborigines probably didn't want the British coming to Australia either.

Just remember Muslims aren't some monolithic block where everyone thinks the same. If you maintain an us vs them mentality all you will get is an us vs them reality.

It is clearly not us vs them but right vs wrong as is evidenced by this Muslim view.

www.throng.com.au/documentary/jennifer-byrne-presents-ayaan-hirsi-ali-abc1

Mobydisc said...

Whats this got to do with windsurfing, kitesurfing, surfing, stand up paddleboarding, sailing, land sailing or sitting on your bum watching the waves?

You don't like Muslims. You don't want them coming to Australia. Thats fine. The Aborigines probably didn't want the British coming to Australia either.

Just remember Muslims aren't some monolithic block where everyone thinks the same. If you maintain an us vs them mentality all you will get is an us vs them reality.

This is the "General Discussion" part of the forum in answer to your first tirade.

I have for over 20 years very good friends who are Muslim by faith but no longer attend the local mosque because of the non TRUE Muslim ideas that are preached there.

There is no fundamental difference between the Jewish, Muslim and Christain faiths as they are all monotheistic and stem from the God of Abraham.

If you do not believe in a God or Gods, that is your choice and no one in this country is allowed to condemn you for that way of thinking or any other way of thinking.

By the same token you have no right to condemn the way I think or what you ASSUME is the way I think.

Back to the thread topic.

If the controversial subjects are discussed on national television on such programs as QandA on ABC and Insight on SBS why do the owners, administrators and moderators of this forum not permit this kind of discussion in the "General Discussion or Shooting the Breeze" part of the site.

Is it because it compels people to think? The hardest work in the world is thinking and that is why so few people do it.

Is it because most people are in "DENIAL" and can't handle the truth???

WARNING:- Do not get too comfortable where you are sitting because you might find somebody will rip the chair from under you before you know what happened.

Carantoc said...

Yes

(to the title question not to the posted text question -

you ask one question then immediately another which is the opposite of the first so any reply yet get you can use as you see fit I suppose)

Not quite if you look at it in context. I am not trying to "use" it.

As we all know the forum rules on posting have been totally broken in many many instances regarding language. S**t, how many more instances do you need? F**k it is just rife as just exampled.

Also S*xism is rife.

What with Green Thunbs, Red Thumbs, accusations of misoginism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, hetrophobia, lesbiophobia, racisim and all the rest of the PC label isms, the site seems to fairly well regulate itself.

So my question goes to the moderators.

What is the difference between Qand A on ABC, Insight on SBS and the "General Discussion or Shooting the Breeze" forum on Seabreeze??

Carantoc said...

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I have never seen ABC Forieign Correspondent promote the merits of multi-fin boards. Does this mean they are single fin purist bigots ?

Well that is because single fins are perfectly good enough and twins / thrusters, tri's, quads and dodecahedrofins are purely a marketing ploy. The netwroks realise that fact.
If the pro's could sail a single fin better 10yrs ago than I could ever sail a quad then do I need a multi fin? No, I need to be a better sailor.
Now - that will start a bigger fight than "muslim boat people who fluoridate our water and make chemtrails on their way back to being deported with a chip in their head" threads - and so it should.

this site is abouit watersports, but there is a general discusion thread aimed at things that fall outside all that is listed and well advertised as things pertaining to watersports. there is a broad crosssection of intelligent watersport participating people who look to the general disscusion pages to see what their peers might view as what might be relevent to the world outside of water sports.

i for one, would hope my peers would be able to discern that what we are feed by the (owned) media and establishement is exactly what they want us to believe.

radical islam is no different from evangelical christianity, christianity in its pure form is about recognising oneself as a mere caretaker of a planet of consciousness, not about the second coming of jesus- who is completley seperate from the christ we are lead to believe is jesus (and who may well be the egyptian god iesis), islam holds these same tennements true aswell.

what we are feed is fear based presented in an economic cataclismic senario. because that is how we are controlled, and that is how they are controlled.

that is how it will be played out, us versus them, because they'll steal our jobs, they treat their women like poo and they don't assimilate.

we are no different.

our women are free...

what is the first thing you think of when you see one of the frequently posted pictures on this site of those young ladies in a revealing costume with a cosmetically enhanced bust...?

how much you would like to f**k her..... yes...?

but she is supposed to think that it her her right and freedom to be able to dress and present herself that way...

and power to her, she is, for whatever reason

but it doesn't take away from the fact that every guy who is looking at her is only thinking how much he'd like to f**k her.

and as a society we are only as strong as the weakest amongst us.

evagelical christianity, the type you might come across in the early moring tv, tells it followers that the only way the second coming of jesus (though they say the christ) can come about is if we support and follow isreal (is-ra-el) into an all out war against the boogeyman muslim (nevermind that christianity is the total antithesis of judaism), who is incarnated this time as iran and the poor rock throwing palestinians, even though iran is persian and only muslim by defalt (thanks to the cia).

jihadist islamics fall into the same catagory as evangelical christians, we really need to feel sorry for them the same way we feel sorry for the evangelicals.

the only way we can 'beat" them is with love.

violence begets violence

"they" want us to react with hatred, because thats how they planned it to play out... we'll only undo ourselves.

ofcourse we have to stop the boats, not because they are stealin our way off life, but because we are destroying theirs. (and we are by our complacency in believing our servicmen are doing a heros deed - they are hired killers, bring them home)

there are very few places left that tell it like it is exactly is...

(www.rense.com www.uncensored.co.nz)

who dare to call a spade a spade, because it damn well is a spade and not because someone might be offended or because it might be viewed as non pc..

if the administrators want to censor or delete threads because they might fall outside the guidlines of what the sponsors might shy away from or even worse they decide is in thier best intersts to censor , then i say to the sponsors, who do you hope to advertise to when your audience has deserted the platform because of the censorship and worse because the platform is no longer relevant...?

(we are only here because the freedoms we have allows us to partake in such indulgences)


sorry for the rant, many beers at the request of a friend.... and a daliance in the machine of poker (for which i am up $300 - whoo hoo)

I am going to bed now

god scmod they need a sunday morning hobby

Carantoc said...


Rule 3 - no religion or politics.

Rule 12 - no complaints about moderation (email us instead)

Regularly break the rules and be unable to come to an understanding, if not agreement, about what the forums are all about, and we'll have to remove you from them.

You see, even if you don't agree, if you understand what we're trying to achieve here you'll know where the line is and be able to keep on the unmoderated side of it.

Back when the forums were in their infancy there was just one rule, 'keep it fun', and that's still effectively 'Rule 1'. Kapiche?

I guess my original comment was a bit over the top. I had some Korean rice wine and beer with dinner at a Korean restaurant last night before getting home and hitting the net.

My feelings are as follows. We should not have a discrimatory immigration policy. However if immigrants come to Australia and they incite or commit crimes then they should be sent back to wherever they come from. I don't think it matters if they have taken out Australian citizenship. If they renounce their original citizenshio we need to negotiate with that government if necessary to get them out of Australia.

From what I know becoming an Australian citizen means agreeing to an oath you will do something like uphold the laws of the land. So if you are breaking the laws, you are breaking the oath and thereby its null and void. Thus you are kicked out.

I live in Sydney where there is a large Muslim community. Members of this community do cause problems at a beach which is frequented by windsurfers, especially in summer. I don't like these people acting obnoxiously, leaving the place a mess and generally being unpleasant. However is it because they are Muslim or because they are d!ckheads? Perhaps its the local council and police responsibility to enforce the laws that are there to try to force people to get on with each other even when some of them don't want to.

i dont envy the moderators job.

Press the button Laurie, it's going nowhere.

or scooping up the dog turj?



Seriously Cisco if religious nuts bother you then have a rant about the latest Chrisso kiddy fiddler (gee that line is getting long isn't it?) or do you just prefer to bash one faith and it's minority nutters?

Obviously yes from your continual muslim bashing posts.

In before Lock - and throw away the key.

cisco said...


Is it possible you could expand on that so that everybody knows EXACTLY where they stand when posting in the "General Discussion" forum particularly "if you understand what we're trying to achieve here".

I'm sorry, let me rephrase that:

"Keep it fun"

Now it's time for.....

Lock.