Cant swallow the latest when Ford announce they are forcibly shedding jobs in two plants in Victoria. Sounds a bit suss to me.
Listen up your Ford Bozo Management clowns.!!!!

When I visit a Ford Dealership here in the West on Wednesday last, to order a "new" Ford Ranger, and told "Oh ol chap, we couldn't supply until at least April 2013 at earliest, tsk tsk.

Here is a tip you drongo's, get some of your team to allocate the laid off staff to stock up your plants so Joe Purchaser can order and receive a vehicle when he wants, not when you can sort of get around to making the blasted things, you mung beans.

On the mark there boofta.

We have the most sustainable fishery in the world and it is being shut down.

So If you want fish for dinner on Fridays you will have to buy Mekong Delta catfish that Coles and Woolies call Basa.

Do not eat that crap.

ranger is not made in aus

south america or thailand or taiwan or something, so they are supplying a world market not just here

but they SHOULD be made here, or atleast assembled here

cisco said...
Re Cars. Daughter just bought a brand new Corolla Sport, discounted $3,000 on Toyota Finance at 1.12% interest rate over 4 years.

Banks in Japan only pay around 0.1% on invested money. A good deal for Australians buying Toyota motor cars.

Re Ford Australia. They stopped making worthwhile vehicles in 1984.

1984? Oh yeah, you are stuck in an XE world aren't you?

I bought two FG falcons recently (only because they were cheap), and have been amazed at how much car I have gotten for my money. They are great. I really wish they had made a wagon though.

I drove one down from Townsville to Sydney, and for a car that had 175K kms, it was a fantastic drive. It handled well, accelerated well, and used very little fuel. I was getting an average of around 9.4 L/100km for a lot of the trip.

Acceleration? I was shocked at how well a base level car went. If I had bought a turbo version I would be seriously worried about my license, as the non-turbo version goes hard. I think I was lucky that I didn't see that many police on the drive down as it was tempting to go just a little bit faster.

I am really surprised that these things don't sell even better. They are a great car.

FormulaNova said...
One thing that really annoys me at the moment, is that we (all of us) seem to be pushed into this 'got to run a surplus' idea, just for political points. As a lot of numbskulls out there think that running a surplus proves that a government can run a country well, the government are pushed into saving money when it really should be spending it to stimulate the economy.

Anyone that argues that the federal government should be cutting jobs and trying to get a surplus should look at how the economy really works

"The government are pushed into..." Wow. You could well be right. The Labs certainly seem to lack the decision making and backbone to lead, and your comment suggests you agree.

Fact is, the Labs have to own their decisions.

I don't think anyone would argue that true leaders are rarely (if ever!) pushed into things.

Very interesting comment from someone who seems to love the Labs.

FormulaNova said...

boofta said...
Ford sacking hundreds is not important .People out of work and Australia
sinking economically is irrelevent.
Whats important is we have declared half the countries coastline a marine park
God bless the greens and labor, long live socialism.
Santa will bless all the unemployed and we will borrow more from the never never.
Who needs jobs, industry, Santa politics will provide, just keep
voting for the greens and labor.
Build the NBN so we can apply for welfare quicker and more efficiently.

One thing that really annoys me at the moment, is that we (all of us) seem to be pushed into this 'got to run a surplus' idea, just for political points. As a lot of numbskulls out there think that running a surplus proves that a government can run a country well, the government are pushed into saving money when it really should be spending it to stimulate the economy.

Anyone that argues that the federal government should be cutting jobs and trying to get a surplus should look at how the economy really works

How the economy really works?
It works like this. If you continually spend more money than you make then you go broke. And then you have to suffer the consequences of having to pay the money back.
Just ask anyone from Greece, Spain, Ireland, Italy,..

Back in 2005, 2006, 2007 when Julia was in opposition, another one of her throw away lines which she often threw at Howard's government was "the highest taxing government in Australian history,." and it was always said in a tone of sneering derision.
The fact is, it was the highest taxing government in Australian history ,but along with that was delivered a whole lot of benefits to the public, such baby bonuses and tax cuts etc.
And most importantly, there was money left over. The budgets were NOT in deficit.

Total tax revenue at that time (2007) was around 260 billion per year.
Since Kevin and then Joolia were made king,. and then queen,.. the tax take has never gone down less than that. In fact last year it was around 280 billion, and yet they are now running a huge deficit budget. And much of it has not been wisely spent.

If it was previously a matter of concern to Joolia that Howard's government was the highest taxing government in Australian history, how much more concern should there now be that we are now being taxed even more but are getting further in debt every year.
The fact is, regardless of global financial crisis and all other excuses, if they can't run a balanced budget in such prosperous times, and Australia is still in relatively prosperous times, then there is no hope for our future. If we continue on making excuses for constant deficits we will certainly go the same way as Greece, Spain, etc. That path is well travelled.
We have no excuse to wander blithely along it hoping that we will be saved by some unknown future cash bonanza that will be dug out of another hole in the ground. It wont be. All the easy holes have been dug. The future holes will be more expensive and less profitable.
Get the budget back under control now and keep it that way.
If we can't afford something now then we can't have it now.
It's as simple as that.

theDoctor said...


ranger is not made in aus

south america or thailand or taiwan or something, so they are supplying a world market not just here

but they SHOULD be made here, or atleast assembled here

I know where the bloody things are made But Ford announced some two years back that they were moving off shore.
If I can get a Caterpillar Earthmoving machine from USA mid-west (who supply world wide as well)faster than these Ford drongo's can organise, assemble and ship a run of the mill 4X4 Ford Ranger, then there is an issue with the Ford Management team in organising the next step. No wonder they found that they were non competitive here in the plants.
Cat stopped making the motor graders at Tullamarine some years back, but supply didn't get it in the neck, Cat just upped the output from new plants
This is the same crap we are supposed to be swallowing when top level ranked man in Rio Tinto claims the unions are the root of his blow out wages bill. Rio and the rest of the big miners have made their beds offering salary and wages to run non union sites well above the norm, and now want to blame everyone else for their predicament
When I last checked its “free enterprise” here in Australia. Not a dictatorship that the Rio man and his mates would prefer, so they can control the system.

pweedas said...
<snipo my stuff>

How the economy really works?
It works like this. If you continually spend more money than you make then you go broke. And then you have to suffer the consequences of having to pay the money back.
Just ask anyone from Greece, Spain, Ireland, Italy,..

Well, it seems to go in cycles or booms and busts (not that kind Doggie). You have your good times where people spend up big, and you have your bad times where people stop spending as much.

The economy is not just a savings account. It is not that simple.

Back in 2005, 2006, 2007 when Julia was in opposition, another one of her throw away lines which she often threw at Howard's government was "the highest taxing government in Australian history,." and it was always said in a tone of sneering derision.

Really? You paid that much attention? I must admit I didn't.

The fact is, it was the highest taxing government in Australian history ,but along with that was delivered a whole lot of benefits to the public, such baby bonuses and tax cuts etc.
And most importantly, there was money left over. The budgets were NOT in deficit.

Total tax revenue at that time (2007) was around 260 billion per year.
Since Kevin and then Joolia were made king,. and then queen,.. the tax take has never gone down less than that. In fact last year it was around 280 billion, and yet they are now running a huge deficit budget. And much of it has not been wisely spent.

How do you know this?

If it was previously a matter of concern to Joolia that Howard's government was the highest taxing government in Australian history, how much more concern should there now be that we are now being taxed even more but are getting further in debt every year.
The fact is, regardless of global financial crisis and all other excuses, if they can't run a balanced budget in such prosperous times, and Australia is still in relatively prosperous times, then there is no hope for our future. If we continue on making excuses for constant deficits we will certainly go the same way as Greece, Spain, etc. That path is well travelled.
We have no excuse to wander blithely along it hoping that we will be saved by some unknown future cash bonanza that will be dug out of another hole in the ground. It wont be. All the easy holes have been dug. The future holes will be more expensive and less profitable.
Get the budget back under control now and keep it that way.
If we can't afford something now then we can't have it now.
It's as simple as that.

How do you reconcile the "global financial crisis" and "such prosperous times"?

I still think it amazing that most people did not realise how bad it could have been in 2008/2009 and how bad other places had it.

Ford Crown Victorias are what most of the Taxis and Cop cars in the US are.

Honestly.

dinsdale said...

FormulaNova said...
"The Australian-designed and engineered but internationally-made Ranger

Where did you get that from? The Ranger is a re-badged Mazda.

www.caradvice.com.au/182754/ford-ranger-review-2/

www.themotorreport.com.au/52543/2012-ford-px-ranger-xlt-xl-auto-manual-review


I got it from a few places, but the following wiki entry should explain your understanding:

(edit: sorry, this was for the American version, this bit is for the International version and makes more sense)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger

For markets outside of North America, Ford badge engineered the Japanese-built Mazda B-Series as the Courier starting in 1971, renaming it the Ranger in 1998; the Courier nameplate was retained in Australasia until 2006. The Courier was also sold in North America prior to the 1983 model year. Second-generation models from 2006 to 2011 were also designed by Mazda, being rebadged versions of the successor to the B-Series, the BT-50. Third-generation models, as produced since 2011, were designed and engineered by Ford Australia, with Mazda offering a derivative version of the Ford as the second generation BT-50.

It's a shame Ford stopped producing the Falcon wagon.

It was the substitute panelvan that you could take more than one lady with homerable intentions in

And it's the only car I could fit my windsurfing kit in

AND before anyone pipes up and posts pics of their formula kit in a Barina, I can fit all my sails, booms, sail box (fin and stuff) all in the boot including camping gear.

The Holden wagon (VE forward) doesn't have the length in the boot to do it.

The only other option is a van and there's no way I'm buying a van.

If you're all willing to work for $2 an hour our
manufacturing and businesses will boom, who
is willing to work for that?.....anyone?....no takers
then can't compete with cheap labour

ok said...

mineral1 said...

Cant swallow the latest when Ford announce they are forcibly shedding jobs in two plants in Victoria. Sounds a bit suss to me.
Listen up your Ford Bozo Management clowns.!!!!

When I visit a Ford Dealership here in the West on Wednesday last, to order a "new" Ford Ranger, and told "Oh ol chap, we couldn't supply until at least April 2013 at earliest, tsk tsk.

Here is a tip you drongo's, get some of your team to allocate the laid off staff to stock up your plants so Joe Purchaser can order and receive a vehicle when he wants, not when you can sort of get around to making the blasted things, you mung beans.

MINERAL THEY ARE CALLING YOUR BLUFFF. THEY WILL TELL YOU HOW HARD THE CAR YOU WANT IS TO COME BY AND THEN TELL YOU THEY CANT BUDGE ON PRICE WHEN YOU HASSLE THEM BECAUSE ITS SO HARD TO COME BY AND THEN YOU WILL SIGN UP TO PAY FULL PRICE AND THEY WILL MYSTERIOUSLY PULL A CAR OUT OF NO WHERE! BE A MASSIVE PRICK TO THE CAR YARDS AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

AND ALSO UNLESS YOU RUN YOUR OWN MASSIVE COMPANY EMPLOYING PEOPLE DONT TELL OTHERS HOW TO RUN THERES!

ITS NOT FORDS FAULT THAT THESE EMPLOYEES WERE LAZY AND GOT THEMSELVES STUCK IN A DEAD END JOB. MAYBE IF THEY WERENT SO LAZY. THIS IS THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY AFTERALL.

P.S MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK ON IM NOT YELLING

ALSO HAD TWO BEERS

ALSO HAD TWO BEERS
Is good