I guess it is the same old story, "How do you tell someone is an antivaxer, don't worry, they will tell you"

hashbrown said..
Singing we are the 99 percent

...and this is why they are dropping like flies.

There is being ****ing stupid and then there is being a patriot.


There will be blue skies when the chemtrails are all gone

Id rather be a human than a slave

But Hash, You are already a slave, you are just to stupid to realize it

www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp


"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.

Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.

"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.

"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."

hashbrown said..
www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp


"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.

Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.

"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.

"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."

This makes no sense if it only stops you from getting it, but not from spreading it. You'll be a greater danger to the public if you've had the jab since you won't feel sick if you are carrying it.

Harrow said..

hashbrown said..
www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp


"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.

Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.

"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.

"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."

This makes no sense if it only stops you from getting it, but not from spreading it. You'll be a greater danger to the public if you've had the jab since you won't feel sick if you are carrying it.

I've heard that before, 'not getting it, but being able to spread it'. How does that work in reality?

If you don't have it, you are not coughing, not shedding it, so how can you pass it on? Hand contact? Sure, but what are the chances of that being an issue if no one there has it?

Do these vaccines somehow allow you to carry the virus but not being substantially affected by it? I would have thought it would be a very simple thing. You get the virus, your body fights it, and you are free of it. During the time your body is fighting it, you will feel sick, probably the same as any cold as your body heats up trying to eliminate it.

FormulaNova said..

Harrow said..

hashbrown said..
www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp


"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.

Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.

"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.

"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."

This makes no sense if it only stops you from getting it, but not from spreading it. You'll be a greater danger to the public if you've had the jab since you won't feel sick if you are carrying it.

I've heard that before, 'not getting it, but being able to spread it'. How does that work in reality?

If you don't have it, you are not coughing, not shedding it, so how can you pass it on? Hand contact? Sure, but what are the chances of that being an issue if no one there has it?

Do these vaccines somehow allow you to carry the virus but not being substantially affected by it? I would have thought it would be a very simple thing. You get the virus, your body fights it, and you are free of it. During the time your body is fighting it, you will feel sick, probably the same as any cold as your body heats up trying to eliminate it.

You have it you just dont have symptoms. You don't know you have it so you are not careful and spread it.
Another school in France has 26 confirmed cases and they still havnt closed the school??
We need to keep the schools open so parents can go to work!

They didnt walk on the moon, chemtrails, the earth is flat, corona virus is a hoax, the government is listening to us on our phones, 4g/5g will kill you.
Why are the people who believe any one of the above is true, believe all of them are true??
Yet they have never, even once, ever, actually proved any of them.??
I guess the governments of the world must be absolutely awesome at covering up these truths,,,,,, but yet they cant even seem to cover up their own sexual affairs from the public ?? but manage to somehow keep all these other things secret??

Mr Milk said..
I read this line in that article and the alarm bell started ringing.

"Typical data for high risk subjects (over 50 years of age with one or more co-morbidities) in the US is currently 18-20 per cent hospitalisation, with mortality around 1 per cent. "

Today's figures say the US has had 24.3M cases with a bit over 400K deaths. That's about 1.7% deaths in ALL cases, not just "high risk subjects"

So I wondered why at was in the article that caused Japie to post it. I read on and, sure enough, Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine got a recommendation.

Do you own shares in the manufacturer, Japie?

The alarming number here is 20 per cent hospitalisation. This is the the problem. Hospitals at capacity and abmbulances queing up with sick people that cant even get into the hospital.
Ski fields are closed here because lots of people end up in hospital when skiing. Not because they think its going to spread in the ski fields. They keep explaining this on the news but people still dont get it.
Prof Didier Raoul is seen as a hero in Marseille because he has helped so many lives using Hydroxychloroquine. The rest of France and the world think's he's a nutter.

japie said..
Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, AM, MBBS(Hons), BSc(Med), PhD, FRACP, FRCPA, one of Australia's leading clinical immunologist and a pioneer in the field of mucosal immunology (with 260 Publications), who was awarded an Order of Australia (AM) for his services to Immunology and Medicine, expressed his opinion in an article published in Quadrant
quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/01/covid-19-a-realistic-approach-to-community-management/

Interesting and good info. Didnt read all of it!
He mentions the lung problems. This is what my wife's friend that is a doctor is dealing with. Having to explain to people that their lungs are farked and they aren't going to get better. Healthy young people that can't do any sort of sport anymore , people that can't go back to work full time.

www.smh.com.au/national/is-novavax-the-dark-horse-of-australia-s-covid-19-vaccines-20210119-p56vbb.html

elmo said..
Headline from ABC news site
www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/uk-covid-19-crisis-worsens-london-mortuaries-struggle-to-keep-up/13059998

The dead threaten to overwhelm the living as UK sets new record for COVID deaths

ZOMBIES

I think anyone here that doesn't believe this stuff should go there. Maybe Scotland? and see for themselves whether this affects people. Plus as a bonus they could get Covid "naturally" and avoid those horrible nasty vaccines.

Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, AM, MBBS(Hons), BSc(Med), PhD, FRACP, FRCPA, one of Australia's leading clinical immunologist and a pioneer in the field of mucosal immunology (with 260 Publications), who was awarded an Order of Australia (AM) for his services to Immunology and Medicine, expressed his opinion in an article published in Quadrant, in which he stated;

* "It could be summarised that in a 'post-truth world' those with COVID-19 disease are denied safe, effective treatment which, if given early, can reduce admission to hospital and death.''

* "The data has moved on, and that science-based decisions can and must be made if lives are to be saved...."

* "Two drugs ARE effective: hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and ivermectin (IVM), with most effective trials including nutraceutical, zinc and intracellular antibiotics."

* "Denial was reinforced by bureaucrats, media and the pharmaceutical industry (which has no interest in cheap drugs without patents).''

* "With both HCQ and IVM it is the sheer number of good observational and RCT studies consistently showing protection when used early in disease that makes an irrefutable case.''

* "From uncertain beginnings, an impressive data base has more recently accumulated that strongly supports the use of HCQ and/or IVM. Their use in concert with vaccines can no longer be denied; indeed this is the only science-based option.''

quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/01/covid-19-a-realistic-approach-to-community-management/

Carantoc said..
Have any studies been done to see if fluoride is effective ?

I mean fluoride and hydroxide are chemically very similar.

Maybe they could add it to drinking water to administer it very quickly and effectively without people even having to know about it ?

I know very little about fluoride but I do know that aluminium sulphate is very widely used in water treatment plants as a flocculant.

I also know that aluminium is the most widely suspected contributor to Alzheimer's.

So I don't drink tap water.