Australia going hungry ?

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pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
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14 Nov 2011 8:01am
From the Daily T:

www.news.com.au/finance/money/starvation-nation-parents-going-hungry-to-feed-their-kids/news-story/e7c0977d11c3b8b4758d91808438366b

Damn, I find those stats hard to believe. I sure hope it's nowhere as bad as it states in there. 1 in 10 would already be way too many.
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
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14 Nov 2011 7:47am
Another stupid story on News.com. That site is working it's way towards being the online Today Tonight.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
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14 Nov 2011 9:20am
Actually as I said the source was DT: www.dailytelegraph.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

Different babloid, same difference.

Still, do youz really know that many people in such dire straits? From my point of view (for when I'm in town), it's more like 1-in-20, but I'm sorta stuck in my little world...
GreenGriff
GreenGriff
SA
137 posts
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14 Nov 2011 10:11am
funniest thing i saw the other day in the city some homeless guy fishing a smoke butt other of the gutter while talking on his mobile phone!

I think many people today dont understand what needs and wants are
SomeOtherGuy
SomeOtherGuy
NSW
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14 Nov 2011 11:04am
Is it just me or was that article a long plug for that savingsguide website?
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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16 Nov 2011 7:39pm
www.theepochtimes.com/
GreenPat
GreenPat
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16 Nov 2011 7:42pm
Didn't read the article or links, but unless a lot of people keep separate savings accounts, there are a lot of people out there with only a couple of hundred dollars to keep them going between pays, going by the atm printouts they leave behind.
cisco
cisco
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17 Nov 2011 12:13am
GreenPat said...

Didn't read the article or links, but unless a lot of people keep separate savings accounts, there are a lot of people out there with only a couple of hundred dollars to keep them going between pays, going by the atm printouts they leave behind.


Yeah. We are about that despite our asset value being a bit over a mil. That consists of two res. units, one commercial unit and the house we live in. Fortunately no mortgages but about 6g on the credit cards.

After council rates, living income for son wife and self is $23k. No overseas holidays in that lot I assure you. Holidays are camping ones.

Don't have to and no longer can find or be in, "paid employment".

How is this possible you might ask. Bury your ego, live frugally and avoid debt like the plague.

smicko
smicko
WA
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17 Nov 2011 1:23am
^^^^ It's the way forward.
sandman
sandman
WA
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17 Nov 2011 9:39am
GreenGriff said...

funniest thing i saw the other day in the city some homeless guy fishing a smoke butt other of the gutter while talking on his mobile phone!

I think many people today dont understand what needs and wants are


I had vowed to never post on seabreeze again, only lurk, but after reading such an ignorant statement and having the nerve to call homelessness funny I can't help myself.

Homelessness in general is appalling under-catered for regarding basic shelter, Single mothers are the first to be allowed a bed in short term accommodation, men are the last. Considering that public transport is the only option for the homeless, if you need to find a bed for the evening, spending your entire day traversing the city only be knocked back from nearly every shelter because they are full is not an option. A mobile phone for a homeless person is much more a need than a cigarette in a gutter will ever be, they need it to survive, they are not using it to tweet their friends or post on seabreeze, they are using it to find a place to sleep.

I have worked on a project for 4 years running aimed at giving homeless youth a voice, their stories would shock you and homelessness is never a choice they make because they just feel like running away. Put yourself in the other guys shoes before you judge him.
dusta
dusta
WA
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17 Nov 2011 10:31am
sandman said...

I had vowed to never post on seabreeze again, only lurk, but after reading such an ignorant statement and having the nerve to call homelessness funny I can't help myself.

Homelessness in general is appalling under-catered for regarding basic shelter, Single mothers are the first to be allowed a bed in short term accommodation, men are the last. Considering that public transport is the only option for the homeless, if you need to find a bed for the evening, spending your entire day traversing the city only be knocked back from nearly every shelter because they are full is not an option. A mobile phone for a homeless person is much more a need than a cigarette in a gutter will ever be, they need it to survive, they are not using it to tweet their friends or post on seabreeze, they are using it to find a place to sleep.

I have worked on a project for 4 years running aimed at giving homeless youth a voice, their stories would shock you and homelessness is never a choice they make because they just feel like running away. Put yourself in the other guys shoes before you judge him.


how do you know 100% that the guy was looking for accomodation ?


I have a homeless guy who hangs out near the bank i use for work . I used to give him a buck or two here and there until one day i gave him $2 and watched him walk into the supermarket and buy a packet of smokes . Now i don't care that he smokes , what i care about is him telling me he needs food and drink and then goes and buys a smoke , he still keeps asking me for money to this day and i keep telling him to go away .
Toots
Toots
WA
271 posts
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17 Nov 2011 11:57am
I got asked for 2 bucks by a drunken indigini last week in freo, he stunk like a bottle of wild turkey, he was about to say "I need something to eat" when I just gave him a blank look in the eye, he then relented and said "ok I need a drink" whilst chuckling at his earlier BS story, I gave him $4 for his honesty.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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17 Nov 2011 3:28pm
Toots said...

I got asked for 2 bucks by a drunken indigini last week in freo, he stunk like a bottle of wild turkey, he was about to say "I need something to eat" when I just gave him a blank look in the eye, he then relented and said "ok I NEED a drink" whilst chuckling at his earlier BS story, I gave him $4 for his honesty.


He probably really does need a drink more than I need a couple of bucks. Don't confuse need with want. Addiction is strong.

I wouldn't be surprised if 1/10 went without food as per the article, but I'm a bit dubious about 1/3.
Kaz1983
Kaz1983
306 posts
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17 Nov 2011 4:34pm
Seeing as I just ate a big arse chicken curry I just cooked up, I'm not...
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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18 Nov 2011 11:59am
With the signal to globalist to divest from China, it look like it's only a matter of months before China has it's turn in the hot seat.

What does this mean for us? Well property prices will begin bigger slides, but it also means our resources are headed down.

Baltic Exchange Dry Index has just ticked down sharpish, US and Chinese inventories are way up.
If I owned any I'd be selling my property and resource stocks now.
I guess unemployment will started heading up after Christmas and they should all
Finance (limited Euro breakup, China banking crisis)
Retail decline
Unemployment
Realestate
Resources
CO tax
Inflation (China will have to revalue the Y, US$ will flood back, A$ decline)

converge around September 2012.
So unfortunately it's not looking good.

Does anyone see a good path forward?
How can we enhance our standard of living?


www.whocrashedtheeconomy.com/
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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18 Nov 2011 3:37pm
I should also add that with higher inflation the RBA will most likely have to raise interest rates.



PS: http://www.housepricecrash.com.au
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