These bogan toys need to banned from popular beaches. I know a bogan who has one - he's a knob. I reckon only knobs are attracted to them.

Maybe only have registered rescue people on them or people who use them for other highly regulated purposes - ie tow in surfing, fishing, exploring - as long as it's far offshore and not within earshot of other regular beach goers.

www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/jet-ski-victim-unlikely-to-survive-20120225-1tvf8.html

If there is anything good to come out of this tragic event, I'd like to see laws come in that makes tearing up and down our beautiful beaches on these knob machines a thing of the past.

Has anyone got any suggestions on good places to start voicing my strong objections. If I have one legacy it would be to get rid of these things from our beaches. I'd be happy to be the Laurie Levy of Jetskis.

They are banned on Sydney Harbour [whole waterways]....I think

Let's ban people talking about bans so other groups can't use some of our own stupid comments against us...

Agree adolf. What is off shore distance now? It was 200m before you could exceed 5knots.

If its not already 400 or 500 meters off shore, that would be a good start.

One minor problem with this ban concept... If you squish skis out of existence, it will probably just open up a market of micro speed boats or Jet Boats. Sorry to be negative, just throwing in some thoughts....

GalahOnTheBay said...

There would not be a problem if the current set of laws were enforced, when was the last time you saw the water police booking a jetskier vrsus the number of times you have seen a jetskier breaking the law?

Yesterday at Kyeemagh a jetskier was busted by the water police for speeding out of the Cooks Creek entrance. The jetskiers seemed to be much better behaved than they usually are for the rest of the day, ie not going full speed off the beach, not cutting across your path with meters to spare, staying at least 200 meters off the shore.

Banning is not the answer for issues like this. Enforcement of laws that are designed to stop antisocial and dangerous behaviour is an answer plus making people accountable for their actions.

These machines are the equivalent of motocross bikes and dirt bikes . Do we let the riders of those machines tear arse around our public parks and recreational reserves that are frequented buy bulk general public ? Answer.....".no

This bloke was going for a swim , not drinking himself to death . OK , OK

well i was out flying my plane at work one day. i was flying a couple of hundred people to their destination,when all of a sudden i had some shark flying straight past my windscreen i did save the day and avoid disaster through my talent and being a genetically superior human well when i found out that it was one of those dastardly air swimmers that almost killed 200 people,i immediately call for a worldwide ban on these war type instruments of the sky

GalahOnTheBay said...

There would not be a problem if the current set of laws were enforced, when was the last time you saw the water police booking a jetskier vrsus the number of times you have seen a jetskier breaking the law?

THIS IS EXACTLY RIGHT

It's ridiculous...
oh, hang on, police is busy setting up speed camera traps...

Was at beach yesterday, and it was incredible how many jet skiers came close to the shore busting full speed

wave knave said...

let the duck hunters take care of them!
[}:)]

Gorgo said...

Cops were out busting a jet skier today. It was kind of cool to see the red and blue lights flashing as they pulled the guy over.

That's what should be going on every day in every location around Vitoria .

Let's employ some of these knob head Pwc users as water police to bust their comrades .

Money well spent !!!!!

Here's my eye witness accounts;

Fisherman's Beach Torquay;
Scenario A - When the swell is up in winter, you will see a few ski's launching or landing, and watch these guys in action, never a problem. Plus being winter, if they are coming into land a little fast, or heading out a fraction fast too early, it's never a problem, because they set themselves a straight line, maintain a straight line, and concentrate on their course....

Scenario B - Fisherman's Beach in Summer, there the additional influx of ski's on the back of shiny wild coloured utes and 4WD's with big chrome rims, and ski's without trailing rescue sleds. They'll be zipping around Point Danger, or Zeally Bay, throwing as much water as they can, doing "pointless circle work", not really caring for where they are going, and perhaps even trying to see if their friends on the beach are watching their "heroics".

That's probably about as much as I want to say, as it is a pulic forum, and I'm fairly easy to track down !! (in real life).

I've seen cops on jet skis before. You could tell them quite easily by the blue cap with the check band.

They had a jet skier pulled over when a boofhead kiter thought it would be a good idea to jump over them. He got a good talking to but was not booked. I was watching it and it was one of those Noooooooooo! moments.

its a fine line, we are all in the water together. Government and laws will start in one place (ie snapper rocks and cctv footage and fines) and end up covering lots of places and the main places of australia. I dont like jet skis motorbikes etc, but I would detest laws fines cameras in the ocean.. Its doesnt take much imagination to imagine kiters jetskis surfers all being fined under the current gov regime in this country. Be careful what you wish for

hammer them i say. ive been run over twice while spear fishing with a flag each time. tthen they both had the sense to abuse me for being so far off shore on "their" reef. one even "asked" me loudly where the f my flag was -" um right there 15 or so metres behind me" (20metre line so i could get to the bottom).
both left rather quickly after my gun was brought to the surface.
hopefully they got done after i put them in.

Sadly any sport has di-k heads.

Many Jet skiers do put out a bad rap but so do other sports. Like the kite boarders at Pinnaroo point. I used to slow down for these guys in my boat until one day, what happens when you slow down is they come real close and the shoot left and right with strings everywhere. Well this one day a bloke sailed straight into the side of my boat. He said he was sorry he thought he'd make it, but now i have two 6 tonne of boat, V8 stern drives running with 50 feet of kite string wrapping and going everywhere. So thanks to this tool now i just go full speed with my hand on horn and guess what MOST of turn off before getting too close.

Wind surfers normally all seem to travel one way in a group and back again but kitters are just skitzo..

So should we ban kit surfers?

On Sat a surfer paddled straight out and proceeded to drop in on the next two waves on Bin lidders. Even abused the first guy when he called him off. Next wave he blocked the guy by deliberately hitting him. Neither got the wave. SO do we ban Surfers?

Snorkeling free divers and scuba divers swim out and dive around the Hillary's boat harbour channel and small rocky outcrops. They pop up in front of you when your driving and scare the crap out of you. Do we ban scuba divers and free divers?

Or do we set up rules and just ask they get policed properly

jbshack said...

Sadly any sport has di-k heads.

Many Jet skiers do put out a bad rap but so do other sports. Like the kite boarders at Pinnaroo point. I used to slow down for these guys in my boat until one day, what happens when you slow down is they come real close and the shoot left and right with strings everywhere. Well this one day a bloke sailed straight into the side of my boat. He said he was sorry he thought he'd make it, but now i have two 6 tonne of boat, V8 stern drives running with 50 feet of kite string wrapping and going everywhere. So thanks to this tool now i just go full speed with my hand on horn and guess what MOST of turn off before getting too close.

Wind surfers normally all seem to travel one way in a group and back again but kitters are just skitzo..

So should we ban kit surfers?

On Sat a surfer paddled straight out and proceeded to drop in on the next two waves on Bin lidders. Even abused the first guy when he called him off. Next wave he blocked the guy by deliberately hitting him. Neither got the wave. SO do we ban Surfers?

Snorkeling free divers and scuba divers swim out and dive around the Hillary's boat harbour channel and small rocky outcrops. They pop up in front of you when your driving and scare the crap out of you. Do we ban scuba divers and free divers?

Or do we set up rules and just ask they get policed properly

I don't think there are many people who would disagree that knobs are attracted to jetskis. Not only do they consistantly flaunt existing rules and cause extreme danger and frustration to other water users, they also create excessive noise polution.

Sure, if they abided by the current rules there wouldn't be much of a problem - we wouldn't notice them or hear them. However, as demonstrated consistantly each Summer - they are unable to - that's why they are knobs.

Port Phillip mayor Rachel Powning said the council received "endless" complaints about jet-skis in Port Phillip Bay, despite its jurisdiction ending at the water's edge, where Parks Victoria takes over.

"Our preference would be for dedicated jet-ski areas. We don't have a preference for the mixed zones, of which there are currently many," Cr Powning said.

Leading Senior Constable Dean Howard said hoons driving jet-skis often put swimmers at risk.

"We see them flying off the beach," he said.

"We have had a couple of incidents when they almost baited police and then raced under the pier where we can't get to them. We are constantly telling people to slow down and we just don't seem to be making an impact on them."

Darren Williams, President of the Australian Jet Sports Boating Association, yesterday described personal water craft as a "big hole'' in licensing.

He said the group was seeking the introduction of skills testing before allowing people to ride them.

"We think it's the most ridiculous thing,'' he said.

"How can you let someone ride this thing with 300 horse power that has demonstrated no ability with it?''

"Can you really allow someone to ride these with no check of ability?''

The easiest way to regulate these knobs IMO is to ban them outright from all popular beaches.