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Zed
Zed
WA
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Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
17 Oct 2007 10:38am
What a waste. Am sympathetic towards his drug problem, but the man is just not the sharpest tool in the shed. He wants to get on it, go to a club, go to Europe, do it in the comfort of your own home, don’t jump in your car (without a shirt) and go cruising round Northbridge at 12.30 in the arvo completely spannered. And if you see the 'arrest video' you can see he was pilling off his t*ts.The drug problem is something you can almost understand and forgive him for, but some of choices he’s made over his career are not. I’m guessing the Eagles will sack him and I doubt whether any AFL club will be brave enough to recuit him. Such is life.
ebb gal
ebb gal
WA
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ebb gal ebb gal
WA, 25 posts
17 Oct 2007 10:42am
he is a silly bugger
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4105 posts
GreenPat GreenPat
QLD, 4105 posts
17 Oct 2007 12:59pm
I wonder how his come-down was off that one?
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
17 Oct 2007 11:06am
Anyone got a link to the arrest video?
Big Al
Big Al
WA
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Big Al Big Al
WA, 265 posts
17 Oct 2007 12:39pm
Ask Channel 9, they where at the scene of the arrest. Quite a coincidence that one...!

AB...
Zed
Zed
WA
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Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
17 Oct 2007 1:39pm
www.perthnow.com.au/

Yeah good point Big Al.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
getfunky getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
17 Oct 2007 3:37pm
Hmmm,
personally I have allowed him a fair bit of slack along the lines of "he's famous, casshed up and all sorts of low-lives like Johhny K want to be his best bud.". After this though he has right-royal fkd up! He will have no support, finacial back-up and probably spiral right into an early grave... Very sad indeed.

quote:
the man is just not the sharpest tool in the shed. He wants to get on it, go to a club, go to Europe, do it in the comfort of your own home, don’t jump in your car (without a shirt) and go cruising round Northbridge at 12.30 in the arvo completely spannered.


Not wrong, it's not like he's not recognisable...I'd have to say he would need a comprehensive map to even find the shed!
big gill
big gill
WA
649 posts
big gill big gill
WA, 649 posts
17 Oct 2007 8:51pm
well his playing days at the eagles are over now
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
mineral1 mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
17 Oct 2007 9:36pm
Yep, she's all tin fruited as for Ben and WCE and his on field association. WCE have indicated that they will try to get him sorted.
Hate to see a bloke crash and burn like he has. There is more to life that playing AFL, and I reckon he is about find that out.
Only concern or suspicion is, two vehicles and a bunch of law enforcement with media on scene shortly after, and we are expected to swallow that it was just a normal traffic bust that uncovered all this. Give us a break. We are not all as green as we are cabbage looking

Out of all the blokes in media belting him and WCE over the issue, there is one bloke "Barra" on 6PR who condemns his current indiscretion and actions, but hasn't abandoned him as a mate.
That's the type of bloke I call a good mate. Good for you Barra

For all those Zy's blowing a fuse and handing back memberships, good stuff maybe some of us less fortunate can cash in and actually score membership straight up when applying
Mineral
bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
bubs bubs
SA, 924 posts
18 Oct 2007 7:52am
West coast shouldn't have had to get rid of him like last night. The AFL should have banned him ages ago.

What i think should happen with the drugs is if you are caught ONCE, you are banned for a year or two AND you name IS released to the public. If you then decide to come back and are caught for a SECOND time you are banned for life from the sport. Recriational or performance enhancing it doesn't matter. Some drugs hide others and what not so any drugs you don't have permission for these rules should apply.

The AFL is so bad you know their like "if you caught 3 time yano we MIGHT releas your name to the public." It's terrible the way they run it. It shouldnt have been West coast that had to deicde if their players could play or not the AFL should have given out bans.

Bubs
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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getfunky getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
18 Oct 2007 11:26am
I reckon everybody is entitled to one chance, and your name is publiclly silent but the club is notified. After that, if you haven't learnt, well get used to flipin burgers.

I hate to say it but the Eagles seem to have fostered an attitude in cousins that he was special and the rules just didn't apply to him... What a cr@p situation all round...

Mr Mackey was right after all "mmm.. drugs r baaad..mmmm'ok"
JESUS
JESUS
WA
150 posts
JESUS JESUS
WA, 150 posts
18 Oct 2007 1:47pm
Should be some cheap gear on the market. Due to the glut on the streets now.
ebb gal
ebb gal
WA
25 posts
ebb gal ebb gal
WA, 25 posts
18 Oct 2007 2:34pm
no more permiership hopes for the wce. judd and cousins vanish
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
18 Oct 2007 2:40pm
bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
bubs bubs
SA, 924 posts
18 Oct 2007 4:23pm
quote:
Originally posted by getfunky

I reckon everybody is entitled to one chance, and your name is publiclly silent but the club is notified. After that, if you haven't learnt, well get used to flipin burgers.

I hate to say it but the Eagles seem to have fostered an attitude in cousins that he was special and the rules just didn't apply to him... What a cr@p situation all round...

Mr Mackey was right after all "mmm.. drugs r baaad..mmmm'ok"


I don't agree. There shouldn't be any chances. It should be the same as any other international sport that is played. In cycling your caught once and your banned for life. In athletics your caught once and theres a 1 or 2 year ban then caught twice and your banned for life. Your name is always released to public aswell. I think AFL need to step it up a lot i don't see why they should be different to any other sport.

Bubs
Zed
Zed
WA
1274 posts
Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
18 Oct 2007 3:09pm
Well with athletics the bans are relating more to performance enhancing drugs which is a slightly different issue. In regards to recreational drugs I do think sportsmen should be given once chance to redeem themselves. If they're caught with drugs in their system, 2 year ban. Second time should be a life ban. It would be pretty harsh on a naive 18 yr old, new to AFL, has a drag of a joint at a party (who hasn't) and is busted and subsequently banned for life.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4105 posts
GreenPat GreenPat
QLD, 4105 posts
18 Oct 2007 5:58pm
So who hasn't had this emailed to them already?

mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
mineral1 mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
18 Oct 2007 4:17pm
quote:
Originally posted by bubs

quote:
Originally posted by getfunky

I reckon everybody is entitled to one chance, and your name is publiclly silent but the club is notified. After that, if you haven't learnt, well get used to flipin burgers.

I hate to say it but the Eagles seem to have fostered an attitude in cousins that he was special and the rules just didn't apply to him... What a cr@p situation all round...

Mr Mackey was right after all "mmm.. drugs r baaad..mmmm'ok"


I don't agree. There shouldn't be any chances. It should be the same as any other international sport that is played. In cycling your caught once and your banned for life. In athletics your caught once and theres a 1 or 2 year ban then caught twice and your banned for life. Your name is always released to public aswell. I think AFL need to step it up a lot i don't see why they should be different to any other sport.

Bubs


Bubs, the intent was to ensure that the young bulls receive some form of support when and if they happen to transgress, without turning it into a massive saga. Better that the AFL volunteer this in and out of season than let the normal rubbish go un-noticed like the issue that has happened in cycling.
Unfortunately I have to deal with people young and old who every now and then get into the wrong place wrong time and come up positive in D&A screening. If its just "slam bam your banned" then there are no positive way to turn them around. The intent is catch it early and you have a chance too change the person, maybe not three strikes but better than one.
Performance enhancing crap, then your gone big time.
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
Dawn Patrol Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
18 Oct 2007 5:26pm
I think that this drug thing might be related to mainwairings death. It sounds like they were good mates and all. He might just be a troubled person, and being a person like everyone else, what he has done is not unusual. BUT, he is/was a role model for many children, and like it or not, behaving well to maintain a good appearance is part of being a fantastic footballer.
Performance enhancing drug takers should be gone from the sport instantly. No good behaviour period, nothing. Just gone.
Rugby is also pretty harsh on drug takers. Wendell Sailor was booted for 2years because of taking ecstasy.(not sure if he had other warning, but i think it was the once)
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
Richiefish Richiefish
QLD, 5612 posts
18 Oct 2007 8:15pm
the movie "Bad Boy Bennie"
bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
bubs bubs
SA, 924 posts
18 Oct 2007 7:57pm
quote:
Originally posted by Dawn Patrol

I think that this drug thing might be related to mainwairings death. It sounds like they were good mates and all. He might just be a troubled person, and being a person like everyone else, what he has done is not unusual. BUT, he is/was a role model for many children, and like it or not, behaving well to maintain a good appearance is part of being a fantastic footballer.
Performance enhancing drug takers should be gone from the sport instantly. No good behaviour period, nothing. Just gone.
Rugby is also pretty harsh on drug takers. Wendell Sailor was booted for 2years because of taking ecstasy.(not sure if he had other warning, but i think it was the once)



There are quite a few drugs like these that are used to "cover up" performance enhancing drugs. Personally i think anyone caught with any drugs in their system that have not been okayed should be banned for 2 years after one warning and for life after the second. That should apply to every sport not just most. Their name should always be released aswell because it embarras them much more than just keeping it quite, and it will help them to understand how bad it is and get over it. I think AFL just needs to get up to speed with all other sports because most go by this system now, or simular.

Bubs
Supersane
Supersane
NSW
174 posts
Supersane Supersane
NSW, 174 posts
18 Oct 2007 8:42pm
What have the West Coke Eagles and Tasmanian's got in comon....

Both been f@rked by Cousin's
mrbonk
mrbonk
NSW
483 posts
mrbonk mrbonk
NSW, 483 posts
18 Oct 2007 9:29pm
I don't think I'll ever understand how this sh!t makes the national news. Honestly, why does anyone give a flying fk about w@nker footballers behaving badly?? It's got to be the least newsworthy thing I can think of!
big gill
big gill
WA
649 posts
big gill big gill
WA, 649 posts
18 Oct 2007 8:40pm
ok so he got caught and now he is busted, the media and ppl need to move on. what about when carton had the ecstasy problem like 3 years ago, what about all of the victorian footballers on drugs why dont we here about them all the time? stop picking on all of the west aussies. i am a passionate football supporter (eagles) but life has to go on, grow up its football, aslong as the players all play not under the influence, what happens off the feild stays off the feild.
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
jord070 jord070
WA, 1109 posts
18 Oct 2007 9:13pm
in my oppinion, he is just a stupid druggie who deserves everything he gets, he had his one chance, and was put into all that rehab and blew it,
just an idiot! druggies are all scum,

eagles should have got rid of him the first time,
whats worse is that girl around my age look at him, and say "his a druggy, but it doesnt matter coz his so hot" so basically they are getting the idea that drugs are ok, and are part of society and if "hot" athletes are doing them it had to be cool

big gill
big gill
WA
649 posts
big gill big gill
WA, 649 posts
18 Oct 2007 9:18pm
thats right jordo, i forgot to put that in. but dont forget that other clubs have or have had problems to.
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
mineral1 mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
18 Oct 2007 11:05pm
What confuses me is we are so hard on people like this but take a few snippets of the news the last week or so and huge issues just get a "once over" and nothing else.
1: Chasers gets itself in the crap third time with law, and all we see (WA only) is a 2" by 1" buried in local paper Role models due to profile, but untouchable
2: Steve Vizard screws a bunch of people share trading while on Telstra board, and the media slant is we should feel sorry for him.
3: Visy customers claim $700m damages: Pratt agrees that Visy card board has entered into a cartel and possible fine 25mil and that's about all is said.
We are an unusual lot[}:)]
bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
bubs bubs
SA, 924 posts
19 Oct 2007 9:26am
quote:
Originally posted by mineral1

quote:
Originally posted by bubs

quote:
Originally posted by getfunky

I reckon everybody is entitled to one chance, and your name is publiclly silent but the club is notified. After that, if you haven't learnt, well get used to flipin burgers.

I hate to say it but the Eagles seem to have fostered an attitude in cousins that he was special and the rules just didn't apply to him... What a cr@p situation all round...

Mr Mackey was right after all "mmm.. drugs r baaad..mmmm'ok"


I don't agree. There shouldn't be any chances. It should be the same as any other international sport that is played. In cycling your caught once and your banned for life. In athletics your caught once and theres a 1 or 2 year ban then caught twice and your banned for life. Your name is always released to public aswell. I think AFL need to step it up a lot i don't see why they should be different to any other sport.

Bubs


Bubs, the intent was to ensure that the young bulls receive some form of support when and if they happen to transgress, without turning it into a massive saga. Better that the AFL volunteer this in and out of season than let the normal rubbish go un-noticed like the issue that has happened in cycling.
Unfortunately I have to deal with people young and old who every now and then get into the wrong place wrong time and come up positive in D&A screening. If its just "slam bam your banned" then there are no positive way to turn them around. The intent is catch it early and you have a chance too change the person, maybe not three strikes but better than one.
Performance enhancing crap, then your gone big time.



Sorry mineral didn't see your post before.

What i think is that AFL are seperating themselves from all other sports. They should not make special rules for themselves, they should be the same as the rest of the sports which most have very strict drug penalties.

I also think that anyone taking drugs is ruining the sport and should be banned. It's can be an unfair advantage to all those players that do the right thing. If they are banned from doing something they loe then mabey they will pull themselves together.

Bubs
ka43
ka43
NSW
3105 posts
ka43 ka43
NSW, 3105 posts
19 Oct 2007 10:20am
After watching footage of Cousins last night with his macho undone shirt and that smarmy "my s**t doesnt stink" smart arse look on his face who cares what happens.
Everyone is saying that the club has to look after him but what ever happened to the old fashioned idea of taking responsibility for your actions.
The guy hangs around crime and underworld people as well.
You cant tell me that it was coincidence that 2 full cars of armed detectives and a TV crew just happened to pick him up for driving erratically.
He's a peanut!!!!
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4105 posts
GreenPat GreenPat
QLD, 4105 posts
19 Oct 2007 10:35am
Ahh the peanut roster. Was on a minesite once where a couple of technical services staff went a bit troppo, so we changed them to a Monday to Friday roster. It was dubbed the peanut roster and the subject of many jokes.

Off topic I know, but I'm a bit off topic today .
elmo
elmo
WA
8894 posts
elmo elmo
WA, 8894 posts
19 Oct 2007 8:38am
Agree with KA43 comments on last post, right on the money.

Just got back from Qld and was well impressed with the Broncos attitude to misbehaving players.

They had 2 players got done last week on D&D charges, both had their contracts torn up. No if's or but's just sacked.

If the Eagles (and AFL) wants to be looked upon as a professional league then thats the attitude they have to take.
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