I'm probably assuming most of us - who are still pressing refresh here - are in our late 50s to early 70's. We have been around the block a few times and some of us are more 'worldly' than others.

Maybe I'm being a bit nostalgic to simpler times. But in my lifetime I'm thinking maybe Keating and Howard as our best Prime Ministers.

For the worst, I just can't go past Morrison and Rudd. Maybe they did some good things, but as people and leaders I think they will go down in history as totally appalling, accidental leaders and weak.

Maybe we had more bad Prime Ministers than good ones.

I'm starting to rate Albo, if only for the fact that he has so far provided some stability. In some ways maybe he has Howard attributes, in that he is boring and has demonstrated stability and unity in their respective parties. I'm also trying to be bipartisan, by giving my best and worst from both sides.

Ok, I'll come clean: this is just my latest, feeble attempt to get this tired forum....

BACK ON TRACK

Anyone biting?

Are you talking about the same Howard who sold off all of the state assets?

I think John Howard was Good his decisive action in creating the Nation Fire Agreement was Brilliant
Wasn't really aware of politics in the seventies but remember my folks enjoying a Whitlam White wine
The worst President I have lived under, though not really relevant here was P.W. Botha

Is that Prime Ministers anywhere? Does Michael Manley get a mention?

The trend is worse .
Albo always gets the mute button.

Agree Rudd, Gillard, Rudd, Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison years were chaotic.

Morrison was the worst, secretly administrating five portfolios was a very low act. He was a grub.

Agree PK was ahead of the ball with the economy establishing many mainstays. In 1985 he first proposed a 12.5% GST, which John Howard introduced in 2000. PK floated the dollar, deregulated the banks, improved the flow of money, made superannuation compulsory and created capital gains tax.

Morrison shirt fronted the CCP and that didn't work out very well.

myscreenname said..

Morrison shirt fronted the CCP and that didn't work out very well.

That's a very weak point of view. Unfortunatley Australia is full of weak points of view.

We should have stopped sending iron ore and coal and whatever other resources they want from us. The only thing the CCP respects is leverage.

Yeah would cause short term pain, maybe for a long time but the easy road is often not the best road

I would make it so everything that we export has to have value added. Iron ore would be steel, sheep would be lamb chops. Wheat would be flour. Energy would stay here to power it all etc etc.

Australia has everything we need to be a global powerhouse except the will.
Keating and Twiggy and Dan Andrews and their ilk would sell us out, correction have sold us out. Unfortunatley Morrison only dipped a toe in the water and got cold feet straight away.

CCP can go suck on a fart, bending the knee to them is the entirely wrong thing to do.

Meh said..
Given that political discussion is apparently permitted....

I don't believe it is.

But I'd think there could be a respectful discussion about the best / worse recent Prime Ministers without arguing personnel politics.

So far all I am reading here are people's recollections of factual achievements of various governments and the weighting forum users place on those achievements.

Keep it up forumers, and peace and love to you all.

cammd said..

CCP can go suck on a fart, bending the knee to them is the entirely wrong thing to do.

Australia's population is less than 2% of China's population. Picking a fight with them would be suicide.

Agree that it would further our interests if we were more self sufficient.

IanR said..

cammd said..


That's a very weak point of view. Unfortunatley Australia is full of weak points of view.

We should have stopped sending iron ore and coal and whatever other resources they want from us. The only thing the CCP respects is leverage.

Yeah would cause short term pain, maybe for a long time but the easy road is often not the best road

I would make it so everything that we export has to have value added. Iron ore would be steel, sheep would be lamb chops. Wheat would be flour. Energy would stay here to power it all etc etc.

Australia has everything we need to be a global powerhouse except the will.
Keating and Twiggy and Dan Andrews and their ilk would sell us out, correction have sold us out. Unfortunatley Morrison only dipped a toe in the water and got cold feet straight away.

CCP can go suck on a fart, bending the knee to them is the entirely wrong thing to do.

As a person who is anti immigration who exactly would you propose to work in the the smelters and flour mills
Yes we have resources but we are a small population that do not want to do these sorts of jobs

We will have robots in few years doing all that stuff for us. The cost of labour disadvantage we suffer from atm will disappear in due course.

Keep the resources here so we can add value and benefit.






Fyi, I am not anti immigration, it should just be done in a deliberate and controlled manner. But then again maybe it already is.

cammd said:


I would make it so everything that we export has to have value added. Iron ore would be steel, sheep would be lamb chops. Wheat would be flour. Energy would stay here to power it all etc etc.

Age old compliant, but agree with it.

cammd said..


We will have robots in few years doing all that stuff for us. The cost of labour disadvantage we suffer from atm will disappear in due course.

Keep the resources here so we can add value and benefit.






Fyi, I am not anti immigration, it should just be done in a deliberate and controlled manner. But then again maybe it already is.

You do realize cammd that the discussion has all been about the past not the future. Back when most of the big infrastructure was built robots where science fiction

FYI when the Hamersley Iron Project was being built in the Pilbara in the seventies the Federal Government was very keen to include a rotating iron ore processing plant and commissioned a feasibility study. Unfortunately it was deemed to be economically not viable.

As a Pauline Hanson supporter could you define a deliberate and controlled immigration policy.

OmarShamgar said..
May your oblate spheroid shower you with all the peace and love you desire.

Meh