Chinese restaurant syndrome

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petermac33
petermac33
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16 Jul 2014 3:53am
Got a takeaway last night,veggie curry with rice and tofu.

It was a Japanese takeaway at a food market.

A few hours later I started feeling dehydrated and dizzy,not really a headache but close to certain it was the takeaway.

The is the third time now after eating Asian takeaway that I've experienced these symptons

MSG perhaps or some other chemical used to make the food taste better at the cost of our health I guess.


Cook it yourself and at least you know what's in it I say.


articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/21/msg-is-this-silent-killer-lurking-in-your-kitchen-cabinets.aspx

Beaglebuddy
Beaglebuddy
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16 Jul 2014 4:42am
I never really believed in the MSG scare but one time we made a dish at home that had a certain spice we liked, a while later we both felt a bit odd, sort of a spacey feeling, checked the label and sure enough, MSG.
myusernam
myusernam
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16 Jul 2014 7:59am
Your problem was there was no meat. Your body was telling u it wanted some b12, iron and the yumminess of something that used to have feelings.
Mobydisc
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16 Jul 2014 8:04am
The problem is you thought you ordered Chinese food while it was actually Japanese food.

In regards to MSG its been scientifically proven, ie giving people food they suspect to have MSG added such as Chinese takeaway and then measuring their reaction to MSG which was marked. Then giving the same people food that they don't suspect to have MSG added in such as roast lamb. The same people don't complain of symptoms caused by MSG.

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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16 Jul 2014 8:39am
Mobydisc said..
The problem is you thought you ordered Chinese food while it was actually Japanese food.
In regards to MSG its been scientifically proven, ie giving people food they suspect to have MSG added such as Chinese takeaway and then measuring their reaction to MSG which was marked. Then giving the same people food that they don't suspect to have MSG added in such as roast lamb. The same people don't complain of symptoms caused by MSG.




I saw a doco that proved MSG was a load of sh!te. Urban myth. People had 'reactions' based on their assumption that it was there. There are also quite high levels of glutamates in vegies (notably cruciform vegies and especailly broccoli I think) that SOME people react to. Those who truly react to glutamates is a very very small group.
Could it really just be that we are not used tot he food? Like Indian etc can give you the poops the next morning - but it doesn't for Indians does it?

But Pete would just love for it to be true...

Loftywinds
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16 Jul 2014 12:29pm
www.msgtruth.org/
sausage
sausage
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16 Jul 2014 12:41pm
I suspect they cooked with fluoridated water & added some chemtrails to the dish
FormulaNova
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16 Jul 2014 11:24am
Loftywinds said..
www.msgtruth.org/



Why is it some groups that have the word 'truth' in them, seem to be just the opposite, and full of 'opinion'?

Just as an example from that webpage:

" It is now reported that the autism rate is 1 in 50 children in the US and 1 in 38 children in South Korea. The rate has essentially risen 200-fold since the 1940's. "

The very link in that sentence points to an article that says a report "found autism spectrum disorder affects 1 in 50 children, well above the 1 in 88 number that had been used by the CDC, and three times the rate the CDC found a decade ago."

and the reason was:

"The biggest change is we are becoming more inclusive,"

i.e. more people are being included in the diagnosis, instead of more autistic people being born.

So, it seems the people behind MSGtruth aren't really doing very good research, unless they are trying to show there is no link.

pweedas
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16 Jul 2014 11:25am
It sounds more like you were dehydrated.
I get that a lot with takeaways. I don't know why.
Maybe it's just because there's lots of salt in it,.. or something similar.
Pizza does it most noticeably.

Easy enough to fix. Just drink lots of orange drink or water.
Sailhack
Sailhack
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16 Jul 2014 2:24pm
^^^ Beer goes well with takeaway... even if you're not sure whether you're eating Chinese or Japanese quisine.
Paradox
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16 Jul 2014 3:11pm


If it's on the internet it must be true? Lots of finger pointing and outright hysterical claims about msg, but none have any real scientific backup that actually support any of it.

I certainly would not trust the "word" from a site like this one that's pure existence is to sell it's own brand of Healthy Pharmaceutical products......I know it seems like you should trust the word of a company selling Pharmaceuticals, but really you should be a bit more aware of possible attempts by others to mislead you by distorting the truth......

I would be more inclined to believe this theconversation.com/mondays-medical-myth-msg-is-a-dangerous-toxin-4560 at least he has a disclosure statement saying he has no interests that may benefit from the article.....

I don't discount the people who say they have issues from eating Asian foods, but a close look at the facts suggest anything other than mild symptoms from too much are more likely to come from another source. I recall a sydney university study suggesting some soy products could be a cause. A lot of the symptoms listed I get after a too long a session in the ocean....I know it's from too much absorbed salt and not drinking enough water....

As the article says - a western style burger and chips has as much msg as an asian meal....Spag bol does too if you like your Parmesan cheese....Chicken Parmigiana probably has more....vegemite on toast..........all silent killers??


Beaglebuddy
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16 Jul 2014 4:34pm
Well maybe this MSG scare is BS afterall, not surprising, this was my initial reaction.
Re; Indian food, if they give you a bib to eat lobsters they should give you a diaper to eat Indian food...
Pugwash
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16 Jul 2014 4:56pm
Medical researchers today unveiled petermac33 syndrome. The researchers claimed the syndrome is easily diagnosed by far-fetched claims, gaseous vapour trails, elevated fluoride and a lack of iron in the blood as well as a distinct lack of “meaty” substance.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2575 posts
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16 Jul 2014 8:42pm
did a low flying aircraft spray it?

seriously tho the msg thing is mostly a load of crap, but there are people that do react to it and get bowel irritation / slight cramps. i know this cause i secretly dosed the boss's food with it to see if she was putting it on or not. turns out it was for real. sorry about that dear.
saltiest1
saltiest1
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16 Jul 2014 10:15pm
A lot of fruit n veg have msg naturally as well.
lotofwind
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16 Jul 2014 10:27pm
I started replacing the msg when cooking with lsd, still makes me feel a bit weird 1/2hr after eating it, but in a good way.
Paradox
Paradox
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17 Jul 2014 9:10am
lotofwind said..
I started replacing the msg when cooking with lsd, still makes me feel a bit weird 1/2hr after eating it, but in a good way.


That would make for some good food related flashbacks.....

msg actually has a lower sodium content than table salt so is better for anyone trying to reduce sodium for blood pressure. You use less too.

Absolute best use is on steak. A premium eye fillet rubbed with MSG before cooking is just wow....
Rails
Rails
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17 Jul 2014 9:53am
Ate sushi once from a food court in Perth - threw up for 48 hours
never thought to post on a forum though....
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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17 Jul 2014 2:19pm
petermac33 said..
Got a takeaway last night,veggie curry with rice and tofu.

It was a Japanese takeaway at a food market.

A few hours later I started feeling dehydrated and dizzy,not really a headache but close to certain it was the takeaway.

The is the third time now after eating Asian takeaway that I've experienced these symptons

MSG perhaps or some other chemical used to make the food taste better at the cost of our health I guess.


Cook it yourself and at least you know what's in it I say.


articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/21/msg-is-this-silent-killer-lurking-in-your-kitchen-cabinets.aspx



Sorry buddy you've been infected with radiation and GMO soy... and you thought fluoride and aspartame were bad, you ain't seen nothing!
slammin
slammin
QLD
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17 Jul 2014 5:57pm
Ditto the naturaly occuring MSG. Saw a Rosemary Stanton piece years back when MSG allergy was popular (80's?) they had Chinese takeaway vs bolognaise. There's more MSG in bolognaise because of the reduced tomatoes. Not one person complained of Bolognaise food syndrome but all the Chinese takeaway which had no MSG added people had terrible thirstiness and headaches.

Wish Rosemary would do piece on glutton free......
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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17 Jul 2014 9:21pm
lotofwind said..
I started replacing the msg when cooking with lsd, still makes me feel a bit weird 1/2hr after eating it, but in a good way.



Did you then try and find the MSG to watch the cricket?
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
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17 Jul 2014 11:39pm


Mercola is a snake-oil salesman and woo-peddler par excellence.

Correlation is not causation.

I eat Asian takeaways all the time and never get sick.
elbeau
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WA
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17 Jul 2014 10:30pm
Did someone say tin foil hats?
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