Clark Planers why do aussie shapers not get it???

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2Old2Slow
2Old2Slow
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12 Oct 2012 6:13pm
When I put my Clark foam planers up for sale (yes this is a blatant self promotion to try sell them) now I've got that out of the way where I was,

....My mate Ed said to me quite negativaly I thought at the time "you won't sell those planers, nobody here would even know how to use one"

..well he was right I wasted $14 on the add over 300 vews and one half querie?

Do Aussie shapers unlike our American friends just put up with using second rate tools to shape a board or has the evil machine so permeated our shaping culture that nobody needs to learn how to shape a blank properly with the best tools available anymore???

Or perhaps the industry is already dead here.

I'm sure this will get a few carpark legends going

pweedas
pweedas
WA
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12 Oct 2012 6:29pm
Well I kept phoning 0406##### and never got through to anyone.
wave knave
wave knave
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12 Oct 2012 6:51pm

but there is no clark foam to plane any more.
2Old2Slow
2Old2Slow
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12 Oct 2012 6:56pm
Well i guess pweedas if you cant work out how to use the seebreeze email response to an add, how would you expect to use a planer?

Oh by the way I had a board for sale at the same time and the 16 year old who bought it managed to key in the correct phone number!
2Old2Slow
2Old2Slow
WA
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12 Oct 2012 6:59pm
no clark foam to plane any more..

thats a good thing too, it realy wasnt a very good foam,

i lke the pointing in the eye thing you do there, how do you do that??
stamp
stamp
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12 Oct 2012 9:03pm
have a good sook mate. it's always someone else's fault isn't it?

here's an idea: try a dedicated surfing site instead of a windsports one, and maybe you'll get more shapers logging on to look at your ad...or you could keep whinging here.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
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12 Oct 2012 10:11pm
stamp said...
have a good sook mate. it's always someone else's fault isn't it?

here's an idea: try a dedicated surfing site instead of a windsports one, and maybe you'll get more shapers logging on to look at your ad...or you could keep whinging here.


I'm actually surpriesed no one picked them up. There are a couple well known shapers that lurk and a couple that contribute.
2Old2Slow
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12 Oct 2012 7:12pm
hey thank for you reply stamp, not sooking just stating the obvious, read between the lines nobodys picking up the planer anymore, the hand skills are gone can you shape the thing you ride??? and make a living out of it??

is there a dedicated surfing site?

and whos fault? someone elses fault?? what you reffering too??

I
doggie
doggie
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12 Oct 2012 7:18pm
2Old2Slow said...
hey thank for you reply stamp, not sooking just stating the obvious, read between the lines nobodys picking up the planer anymore, the hand skills are gone can you shape the thing you ride??? and make a living out of it??

is there a dedicated surfing site?

and whos fault? someone elses fault?? what you reffering too??

I


Trolling at its best/worst?

I have a hand shaped board
2Old2Slow
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WA
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12 Oct 2012 7:30pm
doggie said...
2Old2Slow said...
hey thank for you reply stamp, not sooking just stating the obvious, read between the lines nobodys picking up the planer anymore, the hand skills are gone can you shape the thing you ride??? and make a living out of it??

is there a dedicated surfing site?

and whos fault? someone elses fault?? what you reffering too??

I


Trolling at its best/worst?

I have a hand shaped board


Doggie you are a rare creature, support you shaper.

but.... good shapes reproduced buy the evil machine are the reality these days.
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
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12 Oct 2012 7:33pm
I know what your saying man.

Only last month I paid $5 for an add in the local post office window to try to sell my jousting sticks.

I don't know how many people walked past that window, but not one enquiry.

Don't they realise $800 per stick is super-good value ?

or does nobody know how to joust anymore ?
youngbull
youngbull
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12 Oct 2012 9:53pm
Your first post is to sell, you admitted self promotion/advertising. Obviously you did not read the seabreeze guidelines!!!

If you had 100 or so post I could understand a little leniency.
However this is not the case and I believe your account should be deleted or thread locked or removed.

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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12 Oct 2012 7:59pm
I have never shaped a surfboard.

I do know a bit about making stuff and getting curves right etc..... and I do know a legend shaper near me uses a garden variety planer.

So are they a necessity?
2Old2Slow
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12 Oct 2012 9:12pm
youngbull said...
Your first post is to sell, you admitted self promotion/advertising. Obviously you did not read the seabreeze guidelines!!!

If you had 100 or so post I could understand a little leniency.
However this is not the case and I believe your account should be deleted or thread locked or removed.




the breeze police,

lock and load (:



2Old2Slow
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12 Oct 2012 9:39pm
Mark _australia said...
I have never shaped a surfboard.

I do know a bit about making stuff and getting curves right etc..... and I do know a legend shaper near me uses a garden variety planer.

So are they a necessity?



No not a necessity,

but In the past aussie shapers have not had such a purpose built tool available to them, grubby clark desgned this tool to shape as many blanks as easily as possible,

why?

so he could make and sell more blanks,


so why is it different to a normal wood work makita planer?

nobody has asked that question yet<<where is the breeze police,,,,,

they just learned to use the old makita.... yawn



surferstu
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12 Oct 2012 10:28pm
I would suggest you cast your net further than just seabreeze. Try gumtree, eBay, the quokka. Or if it was me I would just contact some shapers directly I can think of 3 that hand shape and I'm sure there's many many more around.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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12 Oct 2012 10:55pm
2Old2Slow said...
Mark _australia said...
I have never shaped a surfboard.

I do know a bit about making stuff and getting curves right etc..... and I do know a legend shaper near me uses a garden variety planer.

So are they a necessity?



No not a necessity,

but In the past aussie shapers have not had such a purpose built tool available to them, grubby clark desgned this tool to shape as many blanks as easily as possible,

why?

so he could make and sell more blanks,


so why is it different to a normal wood work makita planer?

nobody has asked that question yet<<where is the breeze police,,,,,

they just learned to use the old makita.... yawn






Now you have confused me.

You wonder why nobody bought yours but now you say Clark only "invented" them to sell more blanks.

WTF? I'm lost.

I have never shaped a board so am honestly interested
pweedas
pweedas
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12 Oct 2012 11:46pm
2Old2Slow said...
Well i guess pweedas if you cant work out how to use the seebreeze email response to an add, how would you expect to use a planer?

Oh by the way I had a board for sale at the same time and the 16 year old who bought it managed to key in the correct phone number!


Well why wouldn't he?
Teenagers know everything.
Not only that,... I bet he had a hash key that worked really well.
pweedas
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12 Oct 2012 11:50pm
Carantoc said...
I know what your saying man.

Only last month I paid $5 for an add in the local post office window to try to sell my jousting sticks.

I don't know how many people walked past that window, but not one enquiry.

Don't they realise $800 per stick is super-good value ?

or does nobody know how to joust anymore ?


$800 for jousting sticks??
Tell 'im he's dreaming.
pueter66
pueter66
QLD
205 posts
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13 Oct 2012 8:23am
pweedas said...
Carantoc said...
I know what your saying man.

Only last month I paid $5 for an add in the local post office window to try to sell my jousting sticks.

I don't know how many people walked past that window, but not one enquiry.

Don't they realise $800 per stick is super-good value ?

or does nobody know how to joust anymore ?


$800 for jousting sticks??
Tell 'im he's dreaming.


Damn you beat me to it
Zabongi
Zabongi
NSW
40 posts
NSW, 40 posts
13 Oct 2012 10:48am
2Old2Slow said...


Do Aussie shapers unlike our American friends just put up with using second rate tools to shape a board or has the evil machine so permeated our shaping culture that nobody needs to learn how to shape a blank properly with the best tools available anymore???


Wouldn't the best tool available be the evil machine If you were after speed and precision to knock out the same board shape over and over.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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13 Oct 2012 11:19am
Zabongi said...
2Old2Slow said...


Do Aussie shapers unlike our American friends just put up with using second rate tools to shape a board or has the evil machine so permeated our shaping culture that nobody needs to learn how to shape a blank properly with the best tools available anymore???


Wouldn't the best tool available be the evil machine If you were after speed and precision to knock out the same board shape over and over.



Very true and are not considered evil these days, infact they are the only way to truly tune a board as you can do that over and over and change little things along the way for the individual. Hand shaping is still relivant tho and always will be but the top shapers that shape boards for pros etc will use machines for the accuracy and tuneabilty.

Old mate just got stuck with a few planers and wants to blame evryone else for his feck up.

Machine or hand shape dosnt matter to the average punter like myself.
Skid
Skid
QLD
1499 posts
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13 Oct 2012 1:57pm
I'm a bit slow on the uptake sometimes, but it seems that...

- Clark planers are better than other planers cos they do the job faster...
- Machines that do the job faster than clark planers are evil...

Skid
Skid
QLD
1499 posts
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13 Oct 2012 1:59pm
Carantoc said...
I know what your saying man.

Only last month I paid $5 for an add in the local post office window to try to sell my jousting sticks.

I don't know how many people walked past that window, but not one enquiry.

Don't they realise $800 per stick is super-good value ?

or does nobody know how to joust anymore ?


Do you still have them for sale?
Are they the model with the detachable scrindle? if so, PM me
jsnfok
jsnfok
WA
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13 Oct 2012 1:22pm
the investment costs for a cnc wouldnt be cheap, the investment cost for the knowledge and experience in board shaping is priceless!!
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