Contractor and ABN

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danw
danw
WA
163 posts
WA, 163 posts
19 Nov 2015 3:01pm
Hi,

I've recently moved back to Aus after spending sometime home in Canada. I've been hired as a contractor and I've been asked to get an ABN I'm not too educated on the implications and differences between this and working as an employee. Working as a contractor are there tax differences compared to an employee? Can I claim different items for tax purposes? Pros and cons? Cheers for any advice.

Dan
dantren
dantren
QLD
307 posts
QLD, 307 posts
19 Nov 2015 5:20pm
HUGE differences Dan.
If you are on ABN you are responsible for all your overheads(tools, running costs, insurance,super)
As an employee, you will be paid at a lower salary/hourly rate but be eligible for sick days, holiday pay etc......

What trade are you in?


Dan.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
19 Nov 2015 7:51pm
Pro tip: get professional accounting advice
T 11
T 11
TAS
811 posts
TAS, 811 posts
19 Nov 2015 8:58pm
If you haven't got an ABN your employer must withhold 49% tax of your payment and send it to the ATO
Get an ABN it free
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
19 Nov 2015 6:19pm
T 11 said..
If you haven't got an ABN your employer must withhold 49% tax of your payment and send it to the ATO
Get an ABN it free


yep profesional advise would be better.
I think your thinking of TFN not ABN T11
danw
danw
WA
163 posts
WA, 163 posts
19 Nov 2015 6:41pm
Cheers Dantren, I'm a Physio. Working part time and I figured it may be helpful getting a rough idea before speaking to an accountant. Most people I ask seem fairly clueless as they're on salary. Again appreciate any advice or knowledge.

Any recommended accountants in WA?
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
19 Nov 2015 10:04pm
I engage a contractor for drafting services on nearly a full-time position. He simply invoices me based on the projects he is working on. He has registered a business and has an ABN which means that he is responsible for all his own overheads, insurances and taxation responsibilities.

I initially offered him a full-time job as an employee, but he wanted the freedom of working for others and setting his own times and rates, so I suggested that he speak with an accountant to ensure that both of us were doing the right thing.

The best advice is to get professional advice.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4105 posts
QLD, 4105 posts
19 Nov 2015 9:09pm
Some interesting discussion on this recently here: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/General-Discussion/Chat/Tax-file-to-abn/

The ATO info page Elroy Jetson posted a link to was quite informative.
clarence
clarence
TAS
979 posts
TAS, 979 posts
19 Nov 2015 10:10pm
Read this Dan.

https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/Employee-or-contractor/How-to-determine-if-workers-are-employees-or-contractors/Difference-between-employees-and-contractors/?anchor=P49_4674#P49_4674

There are a few "grey" areas that seem to exist in a few industries.

In SOME situations there are particular systems you can use to make yourself a legitimate contractor if you sit in one of these grey areas (eg supplying own materials, having your own business name and structure, supplying quotes for completing particular jobs etc).

Clarence
danw
danw
WA
163 posts
WA, 163 posts
19 Nov 2015 9:11pm
Cheers for the links
T 11
T 11
TAS
811 posts
TAS, 811 posts
20 Nov 2015 12:32pm
TurtleHunter said..

T 11 said..
If you haven't got an ABN your employer must withhold 49% tax of your payment and send it to the ATO
Get an ABN it free



yep profesional advise would be better.
I think your thinking of TFN not ABN T11


This is straight off the ATO website

When a business doesn't quote its ABN
If a business supplies you with goods or services it should quote its ABN. If it does not you must generally withhold 49% from the payment you make to them and send the withheld amount to us.
https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/PAYG-withholding/Payments-you-need-to-withhold-from/When-a-business-doesn-t-quote-its-ABN/
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
22 Nov 2015 3:02pm
fair enough.
danw
danw
WA
163 posts
WA, 163 posts
22 Nov 2015 8:04pm
Thanks for the links, I'll get in touch with an accountant and sort it out.
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