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Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
NSW
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25 Aug 2015 12:56am
Is Bolt for real ? For a short period of my life I thought Armstrong was real.....very wrong on that one. I wanted to believe he had done something super human. But Mr Bolt you seem to be able to do the impossible against the drug cheats. Should I just believe you whilst most of your competitors have all been done plus most of your countries high achievers. Still confused. Is it possible that Cadel is the only one who doesn't cheat - or was I wrong on that as well?
jfunk
jfunk
QLD
255 posts
QLD, 255 posts
25 Aug 2015 6:31am
Cadel is acknowledged throughout the peloton as clean. He has a extremely high level of integrity and stands up for what he believes. At the 2008 Olympics he painted his bike and wore a shirt under hid jersey that represented the Tibetan flag. There was a real risk the Chinese would throw him out of the event. Cadel I believe was clean throughout his career.

Plus cycling leads the way now on testing with their biological passport system.

The Jamaicans do have a bad history in drug taking, including in Bolts training squad. I hope he is clean. I think now that Sebastian Coe has been made president of the IAAF all the positives that are being kept secret will be released and something will be done about it.

Of course our national sports AFL and NRL are rife with drug cheats, but no one knows because of the woeful testing regime and the fact they keep positives quiet.

What would people rather I wonder, sports that chase all their cheats, or sports that hide all their cheats, (so they done get bad PR and lose sponsors). I want clean!!
shi thouse
shi thouse
WA
1159 posts
WA, 1159 posts
25 Aug 2015 8:59am
^^^^Got to agree on Cadel...plus never in his years of racing did I see him achieve what he did through relative ease - it was always through sheer grit and determination (unlike - Lance who had this "mysterious" super human strength that he could call on when ever he needed).
jeff2
jeff2
WA
221 posts
WA, 221 posts
25 Aug 2015 11:40am
BOLT is almost twice the size of his competitors, Yes i think he is REAL!
Cobra
Cobra
9106 posts
9106 posts
25 Aug 2015 5:58pm
all Ice skaters are on Ice.
Vince68
Vince68
WA
675 posts
WA, 675 posts
25 Aug 2015 7:26pm
I think they should have a drug induced Olympics and other sport codes. So those people who cannot operate with out drug enhancements can take as much as they like and go for it. That will be entertaining.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
NSW
14256 posts
NSW, 14256 posts
25 Aug 2015 11:30pm
So would the insurance bill

Good read

Usain Bolt delivers his greatest miracle in beating Justin Gatlin


www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34033556
MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
1019 posts
WA, 1019 posts
25 Aug 2015 9:49pm
vpar said...
So those people who cannot operate with out drug enhancements can take as much as they like and go for it.

The truth is that most of these people on performance enhancing drugs are already elite atheletes. A few drugs doesn't automatically mean some peanut can squat 300kgs or run 100m in under 10seconds. You still have to work and train hard.

It'd be great to allow a level of competition for big events where anything goes to see just what we are capable of.
japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
NSW, 7146 posts
26 Aug 2015 7:42am
MDSXR6T said..
vpar said...
So those people who cannot operate with out drug enhancements can take as much as they like and go for it.

The truth is that most of these people on performance enhancing drugs are already elite atheletes. A few drugs doesn't automatically mean some peanut can squat 300kgs or run 100m in under 10seconds. You still have to work and train hard.

It'd be great to allow a level of competition for big events where anything goes to see just what we are capable of.


Don't you mean see what the drugs are capable of?
jonnulla
jonnulla
NSW
74 posts
NSW, 74 posts
26 Aug 2015 9:16am
I'd be twice the size of my competitors to if i took growth hormones and other drugs. (not saying he does)
MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
1019 posts
WA, 1019 posts
26 Aug 2015 10:33pm
japie said...
Don't you mean see what the drugs are capable of?

Maybe, but technology is used to vastly improve the equipment we use (ie bikes getting lighter and stronger and cricket bats that hit further etc) so why not us?

You can't just give someone PED's and turn them into superman, they still need to work super hard so why not remove the stigma and allow an open competition class for some big events? It'd still be just as exciting to watch
psychomub
psychomub
448 posts
448 posts
28 Aug 2015 6:17am


There’s a well-known survey in sports, known as the Goldman Dilemma. For it, a researcher, Bob Goldman, began asking elite athletes in the 1980s whether they would take a drug that guaranteed them a gold medal but would also kill them within five years. More than half of the athletes said yes. When he repeated the survey biannually for the next decade, the results were always the same. About half of the athletes were quite ready to take the bargain.
snot
snot
NSW
157 posts
NSW, 157 posts
4 Sep 2015 11:22pm
Cadels a machine
Trained with him in Jindy back in the day
That guy is the real deal
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