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Dawn Patrol
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26 Oct 2007 10:30am
I have never been genuinly scared before, but last night was really scarry.
We had just graduated so everyone was having fun and drinking etc.
But one of my mates thought it would be bright to take two pills of god knows what.
Half an hour later, he was in a bad way. I didnt know what he had taken, so i tried to chat with him. 10mins later i rung an ambulance as he was losing consciousness, and was all over the shop.
I spoke to him this morning, and the doctors said if i hadnt rung the ambulance he would have died.
I was so scared though. i rang them once and they said it was on the way. 20mins later nothing. i rang again and they assured me it was on the way. 5mins later it was there.
What scared me was that i could do nothing. i had no experience with it, and one of my mates was screwed up.
I know a few young blokes use this forum, and the older ones, stay away from that stuff please. Stick to alcohol, at least you know the effects.
elmo
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26 Oct 2007 10:44am
Well done Dawny

Good post

Hope your mate has learnt a lesson
Sailhack
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26 Oct 2007 2:16pm
Sounds like you had a severe eye-opener there DP.

Hope your mate's OK, it's an experience that I hope never to go through as a mate, and here's hoping you, (and your mate), through choices you make in life, never have to be in that situation again.
ka43
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26 Oct 2007 4:15pm
A subject close to my heart. Too many lives are wasted through doing stupid things like drugs. Growing up on Sydney's northern beaches during the "Puberty Blues" era I lost so many mates and friends through drugs. Sure we did stupid things with grog but at worst you had a wicked hangover.
Drugs destroy lives, not only the victims but usually the friends and family as well.
The scum that make it dont give a rat's arse what happens as long as they make money from it. Just not worth it.
Good onya DP for doing the right thing. Hope it scares the f*** out of you and all your mates, although it sure sounds like it opened your eyes.
Wishing your friend a good recovery.
Dawn Patrol
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26 Oct 2007 5:52pm
He is fine now. But pretty shaken up. I think he learnt his lesson. I sure as hell hope so.
One other thing. If you are ever in a situation where you are unsure or a little worried, call an ambulance. It doesnt hurt anyone. The people on the phone will help determine if you need one. But dont risk not ringing.
Does anyone know the cost of getting an ambulance out? Just curious.
Thanks guys.
elmo
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26 Oct 2007 10:16pm
Dawn Patrol said...

He is fine now. But pretty shaken up. I think he learnt his lesson. I sure as hell hope so.
One other thing. If you are ever in a situation where you are unsure or a little worried, call an ambulance. It doesnt hurt anyone. The people on the phone will help determine if you need one. But dont risk not ringing.
Does anyone know the cost of getting an ambulance out? Just curious.
Thanks guys.



A lot less than a funeral

kitecrazzzy
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26 Oct 2007 10:54pm
wtf the forum is different, o well. ambulance is like $600, i had one experience of some one at a party losing it but i wasn't in a state to help much. the important thing is to learn from others mistakes.
Some chick do it to get attention imo
Barbie
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27 Oct 2007 12:00am
if you have private health insurance im pretty sure its free. Otherwise you can buy a year's ambulance cover from somewhere like HBF for about $30-$40 (one off payment)..... could be a good investment, eapecially if you don't have private health
cwamit
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27 Oct 2007 8:27am
Respect to the ambo's, drive around in one on a Saturday in metro or even in a country town for a night and you will soon see how illicit drugs can fk people up real bad. [}:)] ... alco can of course cause problems too, mainly behavioral issues in young men, but not like some of the illicit stuff people take that can leave them with permanent mental problems.


jp747
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27 Oct 2007 9:31pm
well guys deleted my post! i didn't think it was healthy for the sport....
greenleader
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28 Oct 2007 12:26am
sport? this a general forum on a wind and weather site.
jord070
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27 Oct 2007 11:32pm
yeah, that must have been real bad,

this subject is one of the ones i get into huge fights about with my mates because i am so against any kind of illigal drugs... im so bad with it, if any one i hangout with even talks about taking drugs, or says its cool. i refuse to be they're mate... probally why i dont hang out with that many people.

still hope ya mate is alright, you obviosly where scared, and must be quite close to him/her. but it really is an eye opener to people, so lets hope that people that saw him, and what way he got into, learn from it, and dont do the same stupid thing again

Dawn Patrol
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28 Oct 2007 12:03am
Like you jordo, i am so against it all as well.
And yeah, when i find out someone is into drugs, it makes it so much harder for me to talk to them, without getting into an argument. I ask them why, and they say "its relaxing and it feels good", my answer is bull****, learn to kite or something good for you, or take a few deep breathes, nice and relaxing for ya.
And it does make it hard to meet new people, as i instantly and permanently see many of them as an idiots. I dont know why some many people want cancer, it must be a cool new thing i dont know about.[}:)]
stamp
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28 Oct 2007 1:46pm
Dawn Patrol said...

stay away from that stuff please. Stick to alcohol, at least you know the effects.



i reckon the effects of grog are far worse for your health and much more anti-social than pills.

what was it that your mate took anyway?

Sailhack
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28 Oct 2007 8:16pm
stamp said...

Dawn Patrol said...

stay away from that stuff please. Stick to alcohol, at least you know the effects.



i reckon the effects of grog are far worse for your health and much more anti-social than pills.

what was it that your mate took anyway?




You can't be serious???

You can be a 'social' drinker, you won't OD on a few drinks. Alcoholism's not pretty, and can mess up lives, but pills are far worse.

If a mate offers me a can of beer, or stubby, I know what's in it, and I know what effect it'll have on me.

stamp
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28 Oct 2007 7:48pm
how many people die and are injured every weekend from alcohol or alcohol-related incidents compared to people on pills? unlike grog you don't get aggresive, start fights, or drive like a ****head as a result of taking ecstasy.

if dawn patrol's mate can't handle his drugs he shouldn't be double dropping, its pretty simple. thats like someone who doesnt drink deciding to scull a bottle of spirits as quick as they can and wondering why they pass out and need their stomach pumped.

its very rare that someone will fatally overdose on Es anyway, and if they do its an allergic reaction. too much MDMA might sit you on your arse for a while but you have to swallow a huge amount to die.

and if people make a dodgy batch of pills they generally put caffeine or something else harmless in, but not a dangerous substance. what would be the point? no one would buy off you ever again and you would **** up a lot of people you know.

and sailhack why cant you be a social drug taker? alcohol is legal, thats the only difference. pills mess up far less lives than alcohol does.
kitecrazzzy
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28 Oct 2007 8:56pm
Think of the thousands of people socially drinking, you wouldnt see as many of them stealing, mugging and refinancing their families stuff to buy alcohol as you would find meth addicts jumping out of bins and biting people to get their purse off them so they can score their next hit.
poor relative
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28 Oct 2007 9:28pm
Maybe if all drugs were legal it would be different?
Dawn Patrol
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28 Oct 2007 9:32pm
He took two ritalin (spelling). they are a prescription drug, which obviously werent subscribed to him. im not sure what iit does to you, and i dont really care.
Stamp i see what you are trying to say. Sure alcohol will make you drive bad, but there are laws against driving whilst intoxicated.
One beer isnt going to kill anyone.
But one or two tablets (as in my mates situation) have more than enough potential to kill. And he has done it a few times before (but will never do it again) and he was fine. It all depends on many other variables.
There are social drug takers, i know people who are. And they are gonna be screwed. Its effecting them already.
And sure more people get hurt by booze in plain numbers. But if you look at a ratio of harm cause per usage, the illegal drugs would be bound to take the cake.
JESUS
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28 Oct 2007 9:32pm
Alcohol is far worse than social taking of drugs, just because it's legal and the norm it's seen as OK. How many deaths and injuries after someones judgement is affected buy alcohol, fights, car crashes,drowings etc. Each time you socially drink you kill off brains cells! they dont get replaced. You increase your odds of cancer. The drinkers think they are in control after a few drinks but they only think they are, cause the first thing alcohol affects is there judgement. So if there judgement is out then everything a drinker thinks about himself at that time is wrong! Death from drugs as a percentage is minimal. Drugs are here to stay,it's just the way it is, take a first aid course and you wont feel as helpless.
big-gazza
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28 Oct 2007 9:35pm
Stamp - There is no question that alcohol abused stuffs up many lives - alcohol is also a drug - or mind altering substance in its own right - but to say that on ecstasy - you don't get aggressive, start fights or drive like a whatever - as you put it - is a joke !!
I was talking to a bloke the other day who said that when he takes ecstasy it makes him feel like superman - and as such he isn't averse to a fight. As to the affects on driving - how the hell would know? As with alcohol - the difference between how you think you are - and how you ACTUALLY are are usually quite significant. Then your statement re. the people making the drugs having the scruples and ethics to never put anything in the drug other than caffeine or some other harmless substance seems to me to be incredibly naive, and or stupid. I wonder what effect your words would have on the parents of the young people who have died in ecstasy - and other drugs. Mate - the only person you are convincing is yourself
stamp
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28 Oct 2007 11:19pm
big gazza; who is the naive one here?y ou were talking to a bloke? so you obviously have no first hand experience. you can't just lump all drugs together and say they are deadly, you can't compare ecstasy with heroin or meth. you don't know what you are talking about.


dawn patrol; i didnt realise it was ritalin. thought you were talking about E.
Sailhack
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29 Oct 2007 1:08am
Stamp,

I've had a few beers tonight (about 4-10), yet I'm still capable of reading and responding to your post coherantly.

If I had've had a pill (or 2), I'd be somewhere else, not in a good place.

Alchohol is a legal and regulated drug, by government. Es, meth/speed, ro'es, etc are illegally regulated by the guys that make them in their backyard labs using god knows what to 'cut them'.

If you think that pills are OK, you're a ****head!!!
stamp
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29 Oct 2007 12:55am
sorry mate but rohys (rohypnol) are pharmaceutically produced, or "government regulated," so by your definition they are ok too. just like dawn patrol's mate; ritalin is a legal and mass produced drug prescribed to children with ADD.

many backyard labs are set up by people studying to become pharmacists as a way to subsidise their studies. many of them continue this line of work after they graduate. they know what they are doing.

by the way there is no 'a' in coherent, careful on those beers ****head
Sailhack
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29 Oct 2007 2:02am
BTW,

I have a great family, wife, 2 young kids, close-friends, and a grasp on life that I'm proud and happy to be a part of. A beer, and a the odd glass of wine is a luxury that I enjoy.

I don't abuse that privelege, and that's part of maturing. The young guy that was the focus of this thread, at this point hadn't experienced what life has to offer, and I'm glad he survived the experience (thanks to smart thinking by his mate) to go forward to live life the way most of us take for granted!!!

I didn't mean to pick on the guys that differ in opinion, but if you play with things that may kill you......you might miss out on the best things in life to come.

Alcohol, can be detremental in so many ways.....but a glass of beer or wine can be an enjoyable social/relaxing consumable (as I sit here with my wife beside me, and my children happily asleep in their beds), I can't imagine popping (life-endangering) pills to achieve a 'high' that may/may-not be achievable.

I'm not just a naive country 'hick', I've lived through stages of life with drugs, seen mates go through illnesses, and luckily, not seen death due to them!!!
Sailhack
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29 Oct 2007 2:10am
stamp said...

by the way there is no 'a' in coherent, careful on those beers ****head


Fair enough, I'll cop the spell-check Stampo, as I said, I had a few!!!

But, I'll be sleeping sound knowing that I won't be giving advice that may end someone's life, though!!!

DL
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29 Oct 2007 12:19am
Everything in moderation.

except windsurfing
jord070
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29 Oct 2007 12:20am
why do you need drugs when you can just go out kiting/windsurfing/surfing/etc and just get that great adrenalyn rush from getting big air, or hitting that 35 knott+ speads sounds corny but i think thats all ya need. none of that bullshi(t) that can fu(ck) your life up within a second/
Sailhack
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29 Oct 2007 2:29am
jord070 said...

why do you need drugs when you can just go out kiting/windsurfing/surfing/etc and just get that great adrenalyn rush from getting big air, or hitting that 35 knott+ speads sounds corny but i think thats all ya need. none of that bullshi(t) that can fu(ck) your life up within a second/


In my defence Jordo, I don't have that ability..........yet!

jord070
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29 Oct 2007 12:32am
what about the thrill of trying
stribo
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29 Oct 2007 2:26pm
If you think drugs are ok to use just go for a visit to Graylands and see what they do to young lives I know someone who works there.There a people there that literaly eat there own shi t all because they thought eccy's where cool to take or meth or what ever .
If you want a rush play russian roulette . The buzz would last longer and the risk is the same.
I was no angel when i was younger but after i lost a few of my mates i got a new perspective.I saw a mate shoot up speed and turn into a complete ****er i left him to it and that was the last time i saw him....

Stamp....your a fool to think its safe ,your just trying to justify your actions and thats the mentality of a junky mate ..WAKE UP!!!!
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