Zed i don't think you understood the context of my post ..
I've been there ,done that. Like i said i was no angel . I'm just exposing the risk .

When people start trying to justify and defend their drug taking they have a problem . It,s the junkie mentality.

When I have kids I won't lecture them about drugs

When you have kids your opinion will change! Its called paternal instinct, that is to protect your children from harm. You will never understand this to you have little ones!

Juice said...

In the 12 years I worked at Graylands I never saw anyone eat their own s**t, smear it on a wall yes. Yes there are a lot of drug related admissions but I often wonder maybe the illness was just lying under the surface and the drug taking brought it out. Some people do a hell of a lot of drugs for years and don't get psychotic. Personally I'd avoid "ice"

Yeah i have a friend working there at the moment and it was one of many "stories"that i have been told and i tend to believe her as she is generally not full of bs.Also theres the self mutilation , paranoia etc etc....
I agree with the underlying mental illness but thats just another reason not to take these types of heavy drugs and nowdays with the super strength hydro herbs it can take just one try and your in freaksville for the rest of your life .. So you have to ask yourself before you partake "is it worth it???".......
My sister in law had her drink spiked by some idiot that thought it would be a laugh 10 years later she is still going through hell on earth and the effect on her family and friends....well where do i start???
I was lucky .Somehow i managed to get through that stage in my life fairly well unscathed but many i know did'nt.
It isnt just yourself that your hurting "if" things go wrong .The "ripple effect" is huge.
I am not anti drug i am pro drug awareness.

stribo said...

If you think drugs are ok to use just go for a visit to Graylands and see what they do to young lives I know someone who works there.There a people there that literaly eat there own shi t all because they thought eccy's where cool to take or meth or what ever .
If you want a rush play russian roulette . The buzz would last longer and the risk is the same.
I was no angel when i was younger but after i lost a few of my mates i got a new perspective.I saw a mate shoot up speed and turn into a complete ****er i left him to it and that was the last time i saw him....

Stamp....your a fool to think its safe ,your just trying to justify your actions and thats the mentality of a junky mate ..WAKE UP!!!!

too true, wasnt gonna say it, but now that you did, i can atleast agree

stribo said...



Stamp....your a fool to think its safe ,your just trying to justify your actions and thats the mentality of a junky mate ..WAKE UP!!!!

i'm not trying to justify anything. i don't drink or take drugs these days. i took thousands of pills when i was younger and had one bad experience. i also drank a s***load of grog and had more bad nights and did much stupider things.
i have lost mates to smack, speed, and drinking, and seen others lose the plot from mull but have never known anyone to stuff up to anywhere near the same degree on the pills.

Sailhack said...

Stamp,

I've had a few beers tonight (about 4-10), yet I'm still capable of reading and responding to your post coherantly.

Not so much on the counting though hey? So what was it, four beers, or more than twice that many?

As for my opinions on the subject, I'll keep them to myself...

Also, if there's anyone that hasn't tried drugs you can keep your opinions to yourselves since they are just your guesses and you don't know ANYTHING about the subject.. It's very simple, if you don't know anything about it you don't comment..

DaveSpruce said...

Also, if there's anyone that hasn't tried drugs you can keep your opinions to yourselves since they are just your guesses and you don't know ANYTHING about the subject.. It's very simple, if you don't know anything about it you don't comment..

what about those people, who have been affected by people taking drugs, what this post was originally about,. what about those people who are smart enough not to take drugs, and try to stop it happening amoungst thier friends.
i think you had just forgotton that this post was arignally about how seeing a "mate" in trouble after taking drugs, not about how we feel about them, sure we can make our comments on what we think, but if you think people who have been stupid enough to take or are taking them should only comment on this, you are rong.

intermission:

Well you guys need some time to breath,

So here's

My wife hates this sort of stuff but it cracks (pun) me up!

As an oldie, 30+ who has been in the party scene. Just think about this.

When your off your tits, your fooling yourself into thinking your having a good time.
When your kiting, surfing ect, your getting a natural high which is actually a good time.

If all you party people have such a good time being off your tits, you shouldnt mind when that one dodgy pill has you sitting in the mental hospital thinking your still having that good time three months later.

You might think its bull****, but its not. It wont happen to everyone, but I can nearly promise you atleast one of your mates wont come all the way back. My best mate paid the price and he took less drugs than any of us. Now he sits in a caravan by himself, unemployable.

He might well have had an underlying condition, problem is you dont know until its too late. It does only take that one trip off the planet that you cant get back from. It might be the next one you take, it might never happen.

It is up to the individual. The thing is the better the high, the bigger the risk. Most young people are indestructable and live on the edge....until they get unlucky and fall off.

I'm sorry, Dave, but in
accordance with sub-routine
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crew are dead or incapacitated,
the computer must assume
control, unquote. I must,
therefore, override your
authority now since you are
not in any condition to intel-
ligently exercise it.

ok... Drugs are bad ! ok!!!

don't hate on folk because they do them, don't hate on folk because they don't.

opinions are like armpits, every one has a couple and sometimes they stink!!!

St johns ambulance for a single person is $34 per yr one off payment.

If you have no cover a ride in gut truck will set you back $380 minimum... the price goes up there after... depending was it, air ambulance (chopper, rfds) or general gut truck and Km traveled...

I drove a Gut truck in the Sth West of WA in 2001-2002 and have to say picked up more drunks than meth heads (location played more apart of that with limited meth supplies)... and either the drunks were walking around fine on the side of the road or dead!! not much in between...
When you had a meth call out you could be sure they had not hurt them self but someone else in fit of rage, paranoia or the like..

i have had mates jump off bridges, gas them selves in cars x 2 and a hanging due to meth.... the s#!t is bad!

never know of a person to die of direct relation to E, other than a well documented case in Sydney BDO but coroner said she died from TSS Toxic Shock Syndrome... which your chik can die from, from using a tampon.. read in the little paper that comes with the pack, has a warning right there... but does that mean we should ban tampons.....


so guys in summary... Good job DP, You're a top mate to have, i'm sure your buddy will thank you forever! All drugs are bad some with worse side effects than others and people are effected differently... my personal opinion is if you feel "up for it", try it... your life is your responsibility... but on your assessment on "if you're up for it" think about all the lives you'll effect if it turns bad for you... Start with Mum n Dad, Granny n Grandpa, and your direct family and friends... how will they feel if you jump off a bridge due to depression or end up in Graylands smearing **** on wall as art...

again DRUGS ARE BAD! but so is Coke and Fanta!!!

all just my Opinion....

The Grinch said...


Seargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band?
David Bowie?
Fleetwood Mac Rumours?
Eric Claptrap?
Rolling Stones?

"Lucy in the sky with a six pack" probably wouldn't have sounded so good.

I wonder what the music industry would have been like without hardcore mind bending drugs.

People are ALWAYS going to take drugs, so for those young fellas who are determined they are going to try- think twice about about the source!

I notice that you did'nt pick any dead ones (from overdose)

Sorry mate, I dont regret doing ANYTHING. I stand for everything I do. I may look back on it and say it was a bad call, whatever it might be, going to a party, buying a new kite, spending money on something, whatever, but I dont ever regret anything.. Everything I do makes me the person I am and if I hadnt done it I would have been a different person, hence no regrets.

I would however regret NOT doing something. NOT going to that party, NOT buying that kite, NOT spending the money on whatever, cause if I had I might have had an awsome time, met some new people, new friends, a girl, learnt something new or whatever. You dont grow as a person by sitting at home, doing the same thing over and over and not trying new things. If thats your line then I think its just sad, sorry mate.

Like Bill Hicks said: "I have taken drugs before.. and........ I had a real good time! Didn't murder anybody, didn't rob anybody, didn't rape anybody, didn't beat anybody, didn't loose, uhhmmm... ONE ****ing job.. Laughed my ASS off, And went about my day.....!"

Im in the same boat...

Hey Spruce

Do your family and friends know about the pills Your parents

Just curious.