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getfunky
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24 Nov 2011 5:52pm
Ok so I don't have a smart phone yet but am looking at some Android numbers. Haven't had anything to do with smarty phones to date but would like to take advantage of most basic functions, calender/sync and some apps.

I have always had a love/hate relationship with Mac.. mainly hate tho.

Next year I will have to use a Mac lappy for work.

Wassa scoop, will I be able to get a Mac lappy and Android phone to play well together? Or do I need to bite the bullet and get an i-clone.. er i-phone?

I don't wanna bar of i-tunes either BTW.

Options?
hoagie
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24 Nov 2011 9:12pm
Go the I phone, once you go Mac you'll never go back.
Mobydisc
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24 Nov 2011 9:18pm
Android phones are largely independent of the computer so it doesn't matter if your computer is Mac, Windows or Linux if you have a Android phone. Each operating system will see the phone as a drive when you connect them.

My wife has an iPhone and I had a cheapo Android phone. If you are less technical probably go for the iPhone. However if you don't like iTunes don't buy an Iphone. If you go Android its probably best to go for a phone that doesn't have a company wrapper over the OS and also to get a phone that will run the latest version of Android.
GPA
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24 Nov 2011 6:23pm
GF - there's a sales rep at the Optus store in Whitford City shopping centre called Sam - young slim bloke with dark hair you might want to talk to... he's there Thursday nights and all day Saturday.

When looking for a smart phone for Mrs GPA he was by FAR the most knowledgable guy I spoke to. He's studying engineering at Uni and I did not ask a question that he couldn't answer in detail...

FYI we purchased a Samsung Galaxy II S (and later another for my daughter after she had a play with her Mum's).

I can get an iPhone from work but waiting to see if the Samsung's go on the corporate plan. I don't like the whole iTune sync BS.
nightmonkey
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24 Nov 2011 6:48pm
Smartphone - iPhone. Android phones are way to resource hungry.
Tablet - andriods run rings around ipads
GPA
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24 Nov 2011 7:30pm
nightmonkey said...

Smartphone - iPhone. Android phones are way to resource hungry.
Tablet - andriods run rings around ipads


Not sure - never had an iPhone - but a mate who's a big phone user swapped his iPhone for the Samsung Galaxy II S and reckoned it was a lot faster... can't comment on battery life - but at least on the Samsung it can be replaced... unlike the iPhone (another thing I don't like after having an iPod battery die before its time).
adolf
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24 Nov 2011 7:38pm
I think Macs in terms of hardware and most software are fantastic. What lets it down for me is itunes. I can't stand it.

For that reason alone I'd choose an Android as my next phone.
kiteboy dave
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24 Nov 2011 9:40pm
I got a HD2, a windows mobile phone, but the old good version of windows mobile. All the bells n whistles. I spent weeks/months setting up every little thing, uninstalling telstra crap, installing new apps, tweaking settings. Hanging out on xda-developers, learning how to mod it up.

Now I only use 4 things.
Phone.
Mp3 alarm player (I need a 5 minute song to get thru the fog)
Camera (for on the fly snaps).
Google maps.

The rest is totally wasted.

Sorry, that was a bit off topic. My vote is Android x 1000.
Saffer
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24 Nov 2011 11:40pm
GPA said...

nightmonkey said...

Smartphone - iPhone. Android phones are way to resource hungry.
Tablet - andriods run rings around ipads


Not sure - never had an iPhone - but a mate who's a big phone user swapped his iPhone for the Samsung Galaxy II S and reckoned it was a lot faster... can't comment on battery life - but at least on the Samsung it can be replaced... unlike the iPhone (another thing I don't like after having an iPod battery die before its time).


Anyone who swaps from an iPhone to android or visa versa is going to impressed by the speed. Why? Because you have last gen's iPhone/android and you're moving to this gen's iPhone/android. You could go from iPhone to iPhone and have a massive speed jump. Only way to do a true test is iPhone 4S and Galaxy II S
nightmonkey
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24 Nov 2011 9:16pm
Keep in mind apple suuports all their products where as almost half android phones are not compatible with new OS within 12 to 18 months. There isnt many android phones that can run ICS. Where as IOS 5 even still works on the iPhone 3GS which is over 2 years old.
poor relative
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24 Nov 2011 9:46pm
I use Android.
My phone does very cool stuff.
I like.

Apple equates to itunes in my world and that makes me sh!t
paddymac
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24 Nov 2011 11:45pm
I read an analogy some time ago that is pretty spot on can't remember the source but it went something like this...

iPhone and the Apple ecosystem is like one of those gated communities - everything looks nice, it's well maintained, there's no nasties but it's quite regulated

Android ecosystem is like the "downtown" region where anything goes, the boundaries are being pushed, it attracts some crazies along with those on the cutting edge but you want to watch out for yourself cause things can on occasion turn nasty



The iPhone is great. There are some great Android phones. All depends which one meets more of your needs.
lightwood
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25 Nov 2011 8:47am
Anyone got the Nokia N9 yet?
Beersy
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25 Nov 2011 9:52am
Simple answer. If you don't want iTunes at all, Go android, you can't run iPhone without iTunes...
saltiest1
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25 Nov 2011 10:19am
doesnt anyone use blackberry?
nightmonkey
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25 Nov 2011 7:27am
For all you guys that dont like iTunes. You dont even need itunes or even a PC/Mac to have an iPhone or iPad now with iOS 5. Just like android. Just turn it on.
kiteboy dave
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25 Nov 2011 10:46am
PS Adblock works really well on annoying animated avatar pics.
Gorgo
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25 Nov 2011 12:09pm
Searching for the "best" phone is pointless. The phone by itself is just a paper weight.

You want a phone with a good set of apps and features that do what you want to do.

My "killer" apps are:
- downloading podcasts (Ted, Radiolab, comedy, ABC radio shows)
- Web for accessing weather sites and general browsing for Google, maps, public transport etc
- find my iphone as a backup personal tracker when paragliding (works really well for this)

I am perfectly happy with my iphone 3GS through the Telstra network. It does everything I want to do and integrates into my car for hands-free calls and control of music play back from the steering wheel controls.

We have even used it on a yacht in Bass Strait to get weather details when we missed the regular radio weather broadcast.

Spare batteries and accessories can be had for peanuts from ebay stores.

I have a cable to plug it into a TV or sound system so when we go away we can watch movies or listen to music or podcasts.

I have no problem with itunes. It does what I need it to do.

I have no real plans to upgrade any time soon. I guess a better camera and a flash would be good to have.
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25 Nov 2011 12:23pm
saltiest1 said...

doesnt anyone use blackberry?


Rioters in London, drug dealers.


@getfunky: if you use gmail, get Android. if you use Hotmail get Windows 7. if you use your ISP mail get which ever has the apps you want like Gorgo says.

I just like to tinker, so I'd be rooting/jailbreaking anything I got... iphone is boring for me.
dusta
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25 Nov 2011 9:25am
nightmonkey said...

Keep in mind apple suuports all their products where as almost half android phones are not compatible with new OS within 12 to 18 months. There isnt many android phones that can run ICS. Where as IOS 5 even still works on the iPhone 3GS which is over 2 years old.


thats bollox . i am running a beta version of ICS on my desire . Google stated gingerbread wouldn't run on any old android handsets but it ran fine .

Saffer
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25 Nov 2011 1:11pm
dusta said...

nightmonkey said...

Keep in mind apple suuports all their products where as almost half android phones are not compatible with new OS within 12 to 18 months. There isnt many android phones that can run ICS. Where as IOS 5 even still works on the iPhone 3GS which is over 2 years old.


thats bollox . i am running a beta version of ICS on my desire . Google stated gingerbread wouldn't run on any old android handsets but it ran fine .




Yup, but the fact that good said it won't work and don't provide standard upgrade paths is an issue. If google say it won't work, most people won't try upgrade. Part of the problem is there are such a wide variety of handsets out there using google that its a gamble to try the upgrade because it may not work. Apple on the other hand only has a handful of handsets to test against and its easy for them to remove functionality that adversely affects performance. I.e. no-multitasking on 3GS although it gets all the other functionality.
getfunky
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25 Nov 2011 11:51am
Wow!

Ta for all the replies folks.

Although Mac make funky-ish product (almost as well as they market it ) I seriously loathe Apple's m.o. of excluding you from anything but Apple. I won't touch i-choons even with someone elsse's barge pole, so therefore it's Android/Windows.


As long as i get some sync and co-habitation between my work Mac lappy and the smart phone - all good.


@Flyguy, I use hotmail and hadn't considered Windows vs Android. Ta for the tip.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can still access hotmail on an Android phone - just logging in - rather than updating 24/7?

Also, which phones are Windows 7 based?

In Android terms I'd be looking for a cheapo deal on a Glaxay S (not SII) as it should more than fit my basic needs.

dusta
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25 Nov 2011 12:02pm
getfunky said...



Also, which phones are Windows 7 based?




HTC MOZART HTC HD7 HTC TROPHY

don't care about other brands as i am a HTC fanboi
getfunky
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25 Nov 2011 12:14pm
Oh - forgot to add GPS/maps (free) is a must have.
FlySurfer
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25 Nov 2011 3:15pm
getfunky said...

Wow!

Ta for all the replies folks.

Although Mac make funky-ish product (almost as well as they market it ) I seriously loathe Apple's m.o. of excluding you from anything but Apple. I won't touch i-choons even with someone elsse's barge pole, so therefore it's Android/Windows.


As long as i get some sync and co-habitation between my work Mac lappy and the smart phone - all good.


@Flyguy, I use hotmail and hadn't considered Windows vs Android. Ta for the tip.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can still access hotmail on an Android phone - just logging in - rather than updating 24/7?

Also, which phones are Windows 7 based?

In Android terms I'd be looking for a cheapo deal on a Glaxay S (not SII) as it should more than fit my basic needs.


Win7 has tight integration with skydrive... eg: 25GB cloud storage. Also Xbox live.

Maybe wait for the Nokia Win7 phones N800 or something, they look sweet.
dusta
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25 Nov 2011 12:39pm
FlySurfer said...

getfunky said...

Wow!

Ta for all the replies folks.

Although Mac make funky-ish product (almost as well as they market it ) I seriously loathe Apple's m.o. of excluding you from anything but Apple. I won't touch i-choons even with someone elsse's barge pole, so therefore it's Android/Windows.


As long as i get some sync and co-habitation between my work Mac lappy and the smart phone - all good.


@Flyguy, I use hotmail and hadn't considered Windows vs Android. Ta for the tip.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can still access hotmail on an Android phone - just logging in - rather than updating 24/7?

Also, which phones are Windows 7 based?

In Android terms I'd be looking for a cheapo deal on a Glaxay S (not SII) as it should more than fit my basic needs.


Win7 has tight integration with skydrive... eg: 25GB cloud storage. Also Xbox live.

Maybe wait for the Nokia Win7 phones N800 or something, they look sweet.




how do the windows 7 phones handle updates ?

nightmonkey
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25 Nov 2011 12:40pm
Good call. HTC are the best android phone. The rest all need app killers & suck resoucres.

dusta said...

getfunky said...



Also, which phones are Windows 7 based?




HTC MOZART HTC HD7 HTC TROPHY

don't care about other brands as i am a HTC fanboi


doggie
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25 Nov 2011 2:06pm
What is wrong with iTunes? Are you doing something wrong?
GPA
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25 Nov 2011 2:34pm
doggie said...

What is wrong with iTunes? Are you doing something wrong?


A cable for a start...

Android syncs with your Google account automatically in the 'cloud'... you can browse the Android Market Place on your PC in the office - d/l an App and there it is on your phone near instantly ta-da!!

nightmonkey
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25 Nov 2011 2:43pm
You can sync your iTunes wirelessly aswell & you can get your apps straight on your iPhone Dada. Think theres a lot of people here still very computer illiterate.
No wonder my job pays for all my new boards. Woo hoo

GPA said...

doggie said...

What is wrong with iTunes? Are you doing something wrong?


A cable for a start...

Android syncs with your Google account automatically in the 'cloud'... you can browse the Android Market Place on your PC in the office - d/l an App and there it is on your phone near instantly ta-da!!




cRAZY Canuk
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25 Nov 2011 9:02pm
To be honest I'm not a fan of any of the new operating systems, require to much online all the time for the full experience.

iTunes isn't all that bad as long you don't mind getting everything through there and jail breaking it isn't too hard. It also has one of the "safest" app stores. The one thing I do like about apple is their integration is top notch which can't be said about any of the other OS's

Android seems to be the race for specs so as soon as your phone comes out it's old news. I'm also not a fan of the full el google experience - they make their money from search and stats just remember that.

If your getting a WP don't get one of the old devices, the newer ones are using faster processors and more ram. WP is also not quite finished, still needs some tweaks additions.

The biggest thing is to make sure it's what you want, once yo start down the garden path it's hard to get off because you invest money in that direction with additional apps.
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