Floating floors and Underlays

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cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
5 Mar 2009 12:24pm
Looking for advice from people who have put in floating floors in Units (owner or tradies)

We're trying to put a silkwood floating floor in our unit at the moment. We'd like propper hard wood but our ceiling hight is only 2450mm so we're a bit limited as to what we can put down.

Our issue is we have 8 floors of units under us and all the living rooms (where we want to put it) line up.

I'm looking for advice on underlays/sound dampning systems and how to get the accoustics checked.

I've spoken to a couple companies but it's $1500+ for the testing. Which in reality is cheap compaired to puthing it down and then ripping it up and putting down carpet if it doesnt' work out. But every one I speak to tries to up sell there junk without giving you a real answer.

Any one else had this conundrum and found the solution?
dirtyharry
dirtyharry
WA
444 posts
WA, 444 posts
5 Mar 2009 12:15pm
There's these vinyl "boards" you can get that glue down onto the slab - they're actually strips about 3mm thick and the same size as a normal floor board. I thought they sounded a bit dodgy, but they look pretty realistic and are supposed to be harder wearing than wood veneer. Because they glue onto the slab and have no cavity underneath they make bugger all sound (pretty much just like walking directly on the slab). I was pretty stoked with how they looked and I never got any complaints from the folk downstairs. You should be able to find them on the net somewhere...
spot1
spot1
WA
1588 posts
WA, 1588 posts
5 Mar 2009 12:31pm
knight planks is the name i have them in my house and love them
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
5 Mar 2009 6:49pm
spot1 said...

knight planks is the name i have them in my house and love them



www.karndean.com/en-au/floors

Wouldn't have anything else! I noticed them in a bottle-shop years ago...they're still there and have hardly worn. I've got the 'barnwood' planks throughout the kitchen/dining and living areas...great stuff!

Probably not helpful for crazyC...re; acoustics, I know with floating floors there's a few different underlays, I spoke with an installer on a job a few months back and he recommends going for the top type (I think it's yellow in colour, the one that was being installed at the time was green - mid range, and it performed fairly well).

If you're looking at timber (floating) flooring, you can't beat bamboo...sustainable, hard-as-Hades, doesn't cup/warp/shrink and is fairly cheap in comparison with other timber floating floors, my opinion...

T 11
T 11
TAS
811 posts
TAS, 811 posts
5 Mar 2009 7:15pm
I have installed lots of vinyl planks from all the major brands which are ok but if your mind is set on the floating type floor you really need an acoustic underlay of which there are heaps of different compositions. You may have to do some research on the best for you. Cork based, rubber based, chopped foam, polyurathane etc. Height/thickness shouldn't matter 2400 is the limit here.
Some brands: Premium Cork and Timber, Regupol, Bridgestone, Dunlop and MJS Flooring to name a few. Good luck
shark
shark
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
5 Mar 2009 10:41pm
we have the vinyl planking also-looks really good and suprizingly-no scratches from 2 boisterous dogs. The floating floors (to me at least) feel a bit spongy underfoot and I dont like them at all.
Around $50 a square meter, probably cheaper in big smoke.
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
6 Mar 2009 10:26pm
shark said...

we have the vinyl planking also-looks really good and suprizingly-no scratches from 2 boisterous dogs. The floating floors (to me at least) feel a bit spongy underfoot and I dont like them at all.
Around $50 a square meter, probably cheaper in big smoke.


I'm all for the vinyl (obviously, as that's what I've got in my place) but the new underlay on the floating floors don't give that 'spongy', or tinny feel. I've noticed the improvement on many jobs over the past couple of years. Still not as hard-wearing as the vinyl though.

cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
10 Mar 2009 7:41pm
Thanks for the replies -

Missus wanted the proper wood look ended up doing some "stomp" testing with the neighbours. Going with the floating floor and a 10mm thick underlay.
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
10 Mar 2009 8:28pm
This is the industrial vinyl planks. Looks ok, its glued directly to the concrete floor, its cheap, pet friendy and kid friendy.
Ive noticed supermarkets like IGA, Coles and Woolies use it in their fruit and veg section.



shark
shark
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
11 Mar 2009 12:45am
Greenroom said...

This is the industrial vinyl planks. Looks ok, its glued directly to the concrete floor, its cheap, pet friendy and kid friendy.
Ive noticed supermarkets like IGA, Coles and Woolies use it in their fruit and veg section.






looks like you have the exact same one as us-looks great for sure.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
11 Mar 2009 11:43am
if you have any asthmatics in the house or eczema suffers i would avoid vynil flooring as off gassing can be a problem. also with bamboo flooring formaldahyde off gassing can also be an issue.

silkwood flooring is a good product.

boral themselves recommend Boral Regupol RV-4 accoustic underlay. certainly speak to a boral rep for more details but it is important to try where possible to stick to tested systems to ensure warranty.

i never specifiy a floating timber floor without a plywood substrate. costs more but works better.

only issues i have encounted are more qld humidity issues. if the floor is installed on a humid day cupping and shrinkage can be an issue. this is a problem with all strip floors.

another product is mafi wide plank floors. http://www.homestone.com.au/mafi.html
they are prefinished also and have oiled boards. i would use sealed around kitchens.

always seek professional advice from the manufacturers and take my words with a grain of salt.
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