Flu Shot - Yes or no??

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myusernam
myusernam
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13 Apr 2012 10:02am
Interested on opinions on whether the flu shot is worth it for a hopefully otherwise healthy 37 male. It's free through work and I spend a bit of time in hospitals.

Will it help or hinder my immune system in the future? Should I just be letting my body get the flu if it wants to and develop my own resistances etc or does the flu shot do this anyway? Any docs have an opinion?

I have seen the gwynith paltrow flu movie and would like to be one of the survivors!
poor relative
poor relative
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13 Apr 2012 8:09am
Q petermac a whacky theory and a u tube vid.........

I get one every year. Missed last year and got crook.
I got no side effects no flu and the nurse was hot.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
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13 Apr 2012 10:09am
I had a flu vaccine once and it made me sick.

So now I take my chances. Haven't had the flu for about 16 years.

myusernam
myusernam
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13 Apr 2012 10:24am
poor relative said...

Q petermac a whacky theory and a u tube vid.........

I get one every year. Missed last year and got crook.
I got no side effects no flu and the nurse was hot.



I was going to pre-empt PM33's reply. I drink flouride
DunkO
DunkO
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13 Apr 2012 12:02pm
there is a myth it will give you the flu, not true.

the vaccine does not start working for two weeks after the shots, people sometime catch the flu during this period and assume it is from the vaccine.

there are many forms of influenza and no garranties the shot will prevent you getting sick, but it will not hurt.

i had one a couple of years ago and didn't catch anything for over a year, normally i have at least one sick spell a year.
e0422713
e0422713
WA
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13 Apr 2012 10:33am
NO
doggie
doggie
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13 Apr 2012 10:45am
Ive never had it and I never get the flu or a cold. In fact Im rarely sick.
felixdcat
felixdcat
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13 Apr 2012 11:17am
doggie said...

Ive never had it and I never get the flu or a cold. In fact Im rarely sick.

Mmmmmmm you look like a sick puppy to me!
(.).)

stamp
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13 Apr 2012 1:26pm
myusernam said...


Should I just be letting my body get the flu if it wants to and develop my own resistances etc or does the flu shot do this anyway?



that's what the flu shot (and nearly every other vaccine) does, it is a harmless replica of the virus. your immune system develops a response to that particular virus 'shape' so that it recognises it straight away when the real thing comes along & can deal with it before things get nasty.

but be ware- apparently the government/drug companies/the entire medical profession/the illuminati also add secret mind-controlling ingredients to make the population dumber/gay/hedonistic/apathetic/less susceptible to pseudoscience.


patsken
patsken
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13 Apr 2012 11:39am
I do....

.... but I have damaged lungs from an untreated bout of pneumonia I picked up in Europe many years ago.

I've been having the vaccine for the last 4 or 5 years and get through winter with no problems now.
doggie
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13 Apr 2012 11:42am
felixdcat said...

doggie said...

Ive never had it and I never get the flu or a cold. In fact Im rarely sick.

Mmmmmmm you look like a sick puppy to me!
(.).)




(.Y.) cleavage
wodgina6722
wodgina6722
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13 Apr 2012 11:47am
Healthy 37 years old. No way.
NasiGoreng
NasiGoreng
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13 Apr 2012 1:53pm
"they" are injecting you with nanobots.

when they flick a switch every inoculated person will start squarking like a chicken.

that is, everyone except me!


(mate, your 37 years of age. not even close, mortality wise to a group of geriatrics that could be at serious risk from a flu virus. building your own defenses is always the best bet with viruses. if you want to help your immune system then detox your liver. The liver is the main blood stream filter in the body)
FlySurfer
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13 Apr 2012 2:20pm
myusernam said...

Interested on opinions on whether the flu shot is worth it for a hopefully otherwise healthy 37 male. It's free through work and I spend a bit of time in hospitals.

Will it help or hinder my immune system in the future? Should I just be letting my body get the flu if it wants to and develop my own resistances etc or does the flu shot do this anyway? Any docs have an opinion?

I have seen the gwynith paltrow flu movie and would like to be one of the survivors!


What makes you think the vaccine would be a good idea?
Do you know the ingredients, brand, manufacturer, strain it supposedly inoculates you against?

Get the facts, make a pro/con matrix, or outsource your thinking spin the wheel and go with the general consent, that the vaccine is better than the illness.

Potassium Chloride, Iron Phosphate, Folic Acid and Vit C... work for me... some biach gave me something the other day... been spitting out nasty sh!t, but I don't feel too bad.
FlySurfer
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13 Apr 2012 2:25pm
patsken said...

I've been having the vaccine for the last 4 or 5 years and get through winter with no problems now.


It's not the short term you have to worry about.

It's like the smoker who smokes a cigarette, and says, that didn't kill me.
WA waverider
WA waverider
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13 Apr 2012 12:28pm
yes ,have had one for the last 5-6 years had no flu its been great
kitebored
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13 Apr 2012 2:44pm
NasiGoreng said...
if you want to help your immune system then detox your liver. The liver is the main blood stream filter in the body)


And don't use those bloody liver detox tablets, you can't really drink as much as you want and pop a tablet to make it all better. All these tablets do is cleanse your wallet
Buster fin
Buster fin
WA
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13 Apr 2012 12:50pm
No. Am rarely sick, and the only time I've had the flu was after a shot.
Sailhack
Sailhack
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13 Apr 2012 2:52pm
WA waverider said...

yes ,have had one for the last 5-6 years had no flu its been great


^^^ No, haven't had one for the last 5-6 years had no flu its been great

Seriously, my doc had a dig at me for taking about 6 years ago, worried that if I go the flu that it would affect my work - he said [indo accent] "you very big & strong - no need for immunisation! You immune system very good already." I haven't had the shot since & (touch wood) haven't even had so much as a cold...and I live in a very cold/wet part of Vic.
petermac33
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WA
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13 Apr 2012 2:20pm
Protocol 10 of the elders....we shall innoculate the goy with disease.

VIDS--- vaccine induced disease syndrome

direct injection into the human body of witches brew....mmmm

Dare the 'trusters' to listen to hour one.

found link

log man
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13 Apr 2012 6:41pm
Ladies and gentlemen, we have the youtube!!!!
doggie
doggie
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13 Apr 2012 4:58pm
log man said...

Ladies and gentlemen, we have the youtube!!!!


Must be true
DaylightDebt
DaylightDebt
WA
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13 Apr 2012 6:24pm
No

they are manufactured based on the previous years strain, so with a slight mutation which continually happens they are always out of date.

How can you predict which strain is going to be prevalent in any given year.

patsken
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13 Apr 2012 6:38pm
FlySurfer said...

patsken said...

I've been having the vaccine for the last 4 or 5 years and get through winter with no problems now.


It's not the short term you have to worry about.

It's like the smoker who smokes a cigarette, and says, that didn't kill me.


Read my whole post. I didn't advocate for anyone who has no health issues to have it but I was just highlighting that if there is a requirement to have one due to a health problem similar to mine then from experience, I have had no adverse effects.

I suppose I should add "yet" for all you conspiracy theorists who do their research via YooToob....
FormulaNova
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13 Apr 2012 8:26pm
NasiGoreng said...

"they" are injecting you with nanobots.

when they flick a switch every inoculated person will start squarking like a chicken.

that is, everyone except me!


(mate, your 37 years of age. not even close, mortality wise to a group of geriatrics that could be at serious risk from a flu virus. building your own defenses is always the best bet with viruses. if you want to help your immune system then detox your liver. The liver is the main blood stream filter in the body)


Bgurk! Cluck cluck cluck....

Where did you get this info from about 'detoxing'? From a genuine medical person, or did you read it in a magazine somewhere?

Detox? How? I think this is modern quackery at its finest. It sounds good though 'de-tox'... it can't be bad... [}:)]


Keaw Yed.
Keaw Yed.
WA
202 posts
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13 Apr 2012 9:19pm
Have the shot. Vaccinations save lives. (Or can stop you feeling like death if you catch the actual flu)

Patsken - "they are manufactured based on the previous years strain, so with a slight mutation which continually happens they are always out of date.

How can you predict which strain is going to be prevalent in any given year."

Not quite true Patsken, they are not always out of date. The strains do change, but as seen this year / last year they do not always change.

Stamp - that's what the flu shot (and nearly every other vaccine) does, it is a harmless replica of the virus. It is not a harmless replica but an inactive sterilised virus that is the same strain it protects against.

Whilst the different brands all use the same virus strains they do use slightly different additives - this can affect you differently brand from brand.

See below for more info:
http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/immunise-influenza

www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/Publishing.nsf/content/ATAGI-advice-TIV-march2012
DaylightDebt
DaylightDebt
WA
296 posts
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13 Apr 2012 9:48pm
here is the kicker or should I say sniffell
the cochrane study.
proper ligit
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1251562/115m-annual-flu-jab-cost-waste-money.html
patsken
patsken
WA
717 posts
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13 Apr 2012 9:55pm
KEAW YED said...

Have the shot. Vaccinations save lives. (Or can stop you feeling like death if you catch the actual flu)

Patsken - "they are manufactured based on the previous years strain, so with a slight mutation which continually happens they are always out of date.

How can you predict which strain is going to be prevalent in any given year."

Not quite true Patsken, they are not always out of date. The strains do change, but as seen this year / last year they do not always change.

Stamp - that's what the flu shot (and nearly every other vaccine) does, it is a harmless replica of the virus. It is not a harmless replica but an inactive sterilised virus that is the same strain it protects against.

Whilst the different brands all use the same virus strains they do use slightly different additives - this can affect you differently brand from brand.

See below for more info:
http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/immunise-influenza

www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/Publishing.nsf/content/ATAGI-advice-TIV-march2012


It wasn't me who said that.
Mark _australia
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13 Apr 2012 10:33pm
DaylightDebt said...

No

they are manufactured based on the previous years strain, so with a slight mutation which continually happens they are always out of date.

How can you predict which strain is going to be prevalent in any given year.




Aren't ours based on the northern hemisphere season which has come and gone (and we get the same strains just later on) ???

petermac33
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wodgina6722
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13 Apr 2012 10:49pm
I haven't had the flu for years.

When I feel the flu coming on I just say to myself 'nup I'm not going to get sick' It goes away.

It's all a money spinning operation the same with Gardisal. Gardisal is just wrong.
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