Sell my V8 @ $100 per tank Im over it.

Anyone wanna buy an 04 SS 5.7 6 speed manual only driven to church on Sundays by my Mum

Fuel companies say: pump rices must go up because of the dollar and the value of a barrel of oil.

NRMA mapped the value of the AUD, a barrel of oil and pump prices and found four things:

- When the AUD goes down, pump prices go up
- When the price of a barrel of oil goes up, pump prices go up
- When pump prices come down, it has nothing to do with the value of AUD and the value of a barrel of oil
- The spread between pump prices and the value of AUD & barrel of oil has only ever increased over time.

What does it all mean? We are being gouged something chronic, and as usual the ACCC is doing sod all about it

Fill up on Wednesdays, its the cheapest then.

There is no conspiracy with the price of oil, the Aussie dollar is high against the US but we dont import oil from them.

The price of oil is going to stay high (just my guess),..... lots of new car owners in India and China and further instability in the middle east.

http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/marketwatch.htm


www.ipa.org.au/library/publication/1210915497_document_facts_-_petrol_for_distribution.pdf

The Govt benefits from high prices as their taxes are higher. The cost of extraction and production have not gone up.

Trouble with electric cars is that electricity prices will also skyrocket. If the competition (oil) puts their prices up then electricity suppliers can put their price up too.

Bringing back independant retailers would help.

Fuel price comparison from around the world
US$/L (95 RON)↓ ...Country/Territory↓
$0.02 ...Venezuela
$0.16 ...Saudi Arabia (Riyadh)
$0.17 ...Libya
$0.22 ...Qatar (Doha)
$0.22 ...Turkmenistan
$0.22 ...Kuwait
$0.27 ...Bahrain (Manama)
$0.31 ...Egypt (Cairo)
$0.31 ...Oman
$0.38 ...Iraq
$0.39 ...Brunei
$0.41 ...Algeria
$0.44 ...Nigeria (Lagos)
$0.48 ...UAE
$0.53 ...Ecuador
$0.54 ...Bolivia
$0.59 ...Indonesia
$0.60 ...Burma
$0.60 ...Guyana
$0.60 ...Malaysia
$0.64 ...Guatemala
$0.64 ...Trinidad and Tobago
$0.66 ...Iran
$0.69 ...Mexico (Mexico City)
$0.73 ...Yemen
$0.75 ...Azerbaijan
$0.77 ...Mozambique
$0.77 ...North Korea
$0.83 ...Panama
$0.84 ...Antigua and Barbuda
$0.85 ...El Salvador
$0.87 ...Honduras
$0.89 ...Haiti
$0.91 ...Pakistan
$0.92 ...Argentina
$0.93 ...Thailand
$0.94 ...Mauritania
$0.94 ...Russia (Moscow)
$0.94 ...Sierra Leone
$0.95 ...China
$0.95 ...Belize
$0.95 ...Peru (Lima)
$0.95 ...Philippines (Cebu)
$0.96 ...Nicaragua
$0.99 ...Jordan
$0.99 ...Tunisia
$1.00 ...Taiwan
$1.00 ...St Lucia
$1.00 ...United States
$1.01 ...Grenada
$1.03 ...Cayman Islands
$1.03 ...Vietnam
$1.04 ...Dominican Republic
$1.05 ...South Africa
$1.07 ...Belarus
$1.07 ...Costa Rica
$1.07 ...Liberia
$1.07 ...Uzbekistan
$1.09 ...Colombia
$1.10 ...Aruba
$1.13 ...Curacao
$1.16 ...Kenya
$1.19 ...Morocco
$1.24 ...Ukraine
$1.29 ...Albania
$1.30 ...Canada
$1.30 ...India
$1.30 ...Singapore
$1.32 ...Moldova
$1.34 ...Bonaire
$1.36 ...Chile
$1.37 ...Japan
$1.40 ...Cape Verde
$1.42 ...Macedonia
$1.43 ...Canary Islands - Spain (tax free)
$1.45 ...South Korea
$1.46 ...Sri Lanka
$1.50 ...Australia
$1.52 ...Uruguay (Montevideo)
$1.53 ...Brazil
$1.61 ...Malta
$1.61 ...Zambia
$1.64 ...Andorra
$1.66 ...Bosnia and Herzegovina
$1.68 ...Samnaun - duty free in Switzerland
$1.71 ...Serbia
$1.74 ...Bulgaria
$1.76 ...New Zealand
$1.80 ...Bermuda
$1.80 ...Estonia
$1.80 ...Latvia
$1.81 ...Poland
$1.81 ...Cyprus
$1.84 ...Romania (Bucharest)
$1.85 ...Iceland
$1.86 ...Slovenia
$1.87 ...Croatia
$1.87 ...Monaco
$1.88 ...Luxembourg
$1.92 ...Lithuania
$1.92 ...Spain
$1.93 ...Montenegro
$1.95 ...Austria (Wien)
$1.97 ...A?ores (Portugal)
$2.01 ...Czech Rep
$2.03 ...Switzerland
$2.04 ...Palestine (West Bank)
$2.09 ...Madeira (Portugal)
$2.13 ...Eritrea
$2.13 ...Hong Kong
$2.14 ...Hungary
$2.15 ...Ireland
$2.19 ...Italy
$2.19 ...United Kingdom
$2.20 ...Israel
$2.20 ...Slovakia
$2.25 ...Portugal
$2.28 ...France
$2.29 ...Greece
$2.30 ...Finland
$2.30 ...Germany
$2.30 ...Sweden
$2.33 ...Belgium
$2.36 ...Denmark
$2.52 ...Netherlands
$2.60 ...Norway
$2.77 ...Turkey (Istanbul)
Source
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_and_diesel_usage_and_pricing

Price factors influencing Australian fuel costs
www.raa.com.au/page.aspx?TerID=1139

Fuel Tax rates from around the world
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_tax
Be grateful you don't live in Europe

The main difference in pricing around the world is subsidization and tax

Actions you can take
Register for your local fuel watch website and get fuel prices sent through, then you can see when the companies are taking the piss with their pricing (like yesterday ULP 139.9 Today 151.1)

Get a more economic car
I admit I drive a company hack and rack up around 70,000km, when you do that kinda distance year fuel costs get noted.
Our fleet was Xtrails which already are a fairly economical car in comparison to the commodores and falcons rep-mobiles we previously had (no V8's) getting 10-11L/100km.
My last vehicle change I went for the Diesel X trail which gets on average 7.4L/100km
Even with diesel being more expensive this still equates to a saving PA of around $2000


So in answer to the original statement, register with Feulwatch www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/
and plan your fill ups so you miss the spikes which happen

other than that
Get rid of your penis replacement and get a car with better economy

Will this mean less power boats? And jet-skis?

Realistically, a more economical car is probably the way forward.

Fuel prices started getting really expensive in the UK about a decade ago.

Assuming for the sake of argument that a "normal" exchange rate between the pound and AUD is approx GBP1=AUD2 and that reflects the cost of living, fuel has been above AUD2.00 a litre for most of the last ten years (sometimes substantially above that). Currently it's about GBP1.35 a litre.

What has happened in that time is that the cars on the roads have become substantially more economical. More people buy more economical cars, which drives the car companies to make yet more economical cars.

My father drives a MY2000 Skoda Octavia Wagon tdi. It's done 190,000 miles, and if you're driving it normally it gives 5l/100km (56 mpg). If you're really being careful you can get 4.4l/100km (64mpg) in real world driving.

This is a small family car that's a decade old and been treated pretty badly.

What we're about to see in Australia is a same revolution of vehicle type and economy. It still amazes me that the likes of Mazda haven't caught on to the fact that there is very shortly going to be a market for small diesel cars, despite the fact that Mazda UK sell boat-loads of Mazda2 diesels and have been for ages.

I first noticed this phenomenon whilst talking to a young sales exec. He was talking about the car he was about to buy. Ten years ago he would have gone out and bought a BMW, no questions asked. He was in the process of buying a small diesel instead.

I know diesel is more expensive, and the cars are usually more expensive.

However, soon enough it's going to start to make sense, particularly because the diesel car is going to be sooo much easier to sell second hand in a couple of years time.

doggie said...

Sell my V8 @ $100 per tank Im over it.

Anyone wanna buy an 04 SS 5.7 6 speed manual only driven to church on Sundays by my Mum

I've got a very nice XE Fairmont that I would swap you for it. It would solve your problem and it only costs $85 / tank full (premium 98 oct) and goes a lot further in a whole lot better style.

The original question i hoped to inspire feedback on was "how do we combat getting RIPPED OFF by the fuel companies and the Government" without sacrificing comfort and size of car. Is there a way or do we just roll over and pay whatever they decide to charge.

With the price cycling we can plainly see these THEIVES are making lots and lots of dollars even at the "cheap" prices at the lower end of the cycle.

cisco said...

doggie said...

cisco said...

doggie said...

Sell my V8 @ $100 per tank Im over it.

I've got a very nice XE Fairmont that I would swap you for it.

OH CISCO, you so farney
Is it a V8 ESP?

Unfortunately no. If it was I guess it would be on the mantle piece.

Maybe one of these things is the go. They have been in the business since 1886.

http://www.sachsbikes.com.au/madass.php

Yea they look great for a scooter, not cheap tho!!

Hamsta said...

Scooters are underpowered and often lure the riders into a false sense of security.
They don't have the acceleration/stopping ability of a motorbike and are, I think, more dangerous than riding a motorcycle on the road or a bicycle on cyclepaths or the road. Yes, they are economical, but they don't have the advantages of a motorbike or the advantages of a bicycle. They are kind of what I would call a hybrid of the disadvantages of motorbikes or bicycles.

Agree to a point, I think if you use them for short trips ect they are good, but not for daily transport.

Mobydisc said...

LPG is the way to go but LPG prices are still a scam.

I have worked in both LPG and petrol companies, and I can assure you the price cycles work exactly the scam same.

wbailey said...

Hey Karl,

Is the Federal govt. subsidy on LPG ending this year? Or have they changed their mind on that as well.

If it is, it will be about another 11 cents per litre. Happens from July on. Still way cheaper than petrol.

Did you know that the NSW state govt has had to alter its plans to remove Regular Unleaded 91 from sale in servo's and replace it with the Ethanol 91 unleaded as there is a shortage of Ethanol?

Ah governments......you gotta laugh.

According to this Government information LPG will get hit with excise from 1 July this year (guess who pays for that). Also interesting to see that they suggest a high Oz dollar results in lower prices.

www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/fuelwatch/pages/public/contentholder.jspx?key=petrolPrices.html

doggie said...

Hamsta said...

Scooters are underpowered and often lure the riders into a false sense of security.
They don't have the acceleration/stopping ability of a motorbike and are, I think, more dangerous than riding a motorcycle on the road or a bicycle on cyclepaths or the road. Yes, they are economical, but they don't have the advantages of a motorbike or the advantages of a bicycle. They are kind of what I would call a hybrid of the disadvantages of motorbikes or bicycles.

Agree to a point, I think if you use them for short trips ect they are good, but not for daily transport.

Definitely!! Not the sort of thing to be riding in city traffic.