Maybe they use a fuel card provided to them and they don't pay for the fuel themselves?

Fuel companies are making tons of money and everyone is wondering why fuel is so expensive. Its something the ACCC and the powers that be just can't work out. They probably don't want to work it out coz they are making billions out of it themselves. Even LPG is expensive which is strange as its flogged off for next to nothing to the Chinese, Koreans and whoever else wants it.

I can't understand why LPG has become so expensive all of a sudden - the wife was telling me it jumped by 20 cents or so from when I was last home (only ben away 13 days). It is now more economical for us to run her car on petrol instead of gas, park the ute up as its dedicated gas and use the 4b instead as its diesel. What a scam, I won't go in to all the details but export pays less than a few cents a litre - the companies I've worked for that run their mines on gas turbines pay about the same or a little less. As usual the consumer has to pay for the price gouging through the fuel stations. BP is always more expensive than elsewhere but we always get issued BP fuel cards.

Why would our present day Government of either side of the house want the price to come down to a realistic level. The Government is addicted to the tax it drags from this commodity, more we pay, the more the Government rips out of our pocket.

mineral1 said...

Why would our present day Government of either side of the house want the price to come down to a realistic level. The Government is addicted to the tax it drags from this commodity, more we pay, the more the Government rips out of our pocket.

+1......we are simply being milked for every cent we earn on everything nowdays and until the day when everyone refuses to buy fuel then the price will drop.

youngbull said...

I don't get how

1lt Diesel = $1.50
1lt Water = $3.20 - the cheaper brand
0.6lt Coke = $3.80
0.7lt JD = $42.00


Work that one out.

Tax

mineral1 said...

Why would our present day Government of either side of the house want the price to come down to a realistic level. The Government is addicted to the tax it drags from this commodity, more we pay, the more the Government rips out of our pocket.

Too right!! And where does the money all go then? It probably all goes overseas, or they just put it in a big pile and burn it.

I really think the Government should be acting more like a for profit business, rather than spending all that money on its citizens all the time.

By the way we need better school, hospitals and roads.

Mark _australia said...


Can tell you don't live in the bush

How do I have my fuel useage - walk 100km to get groceries I guess.

I think as the most natural resourse rich country in the world be should all be driving $10K new cars, paying 20c/L for petrol and have the strongest economy in the world. Imagine our production capability if energy costs were stuff all!

A fuel subsidy for farmers and their service providers is a well established way of getting around that. If you're not a farmer or a prospector can you justify a petrol-dependant lifestyle in the bush?

It would have to be a global measure if countries with energy-hungry economies weren't to be disadvantaged. Isn't that what a global carbon tax is optimistically heading towards?

We'll have to make the swing to energy-frugal economies one day. Would you rather the easy way or the hard way? I'll guess that people being people we'll do it the hard way.

evlPanda said...

I really think the Government should be acting more like a for profit business, rather than spending all that money on its citizens all the time.

By the way we need better school, hospitals and roads.

*facepalm*

youngbull said...

I don't get how

1lt Diesel = $1.50
1lt Water = $3.20 - the cheaper brand
0.6lt Coke = $3.80
0.7lt JD = $42.00


Work that one out.

And the problem is that I use more water than my car use petrol...

^^^^^^^^^^ +1 !!!!!

^^^ you miss the point Ian. A town of 100 - 500 ppl, about 150km from a capital city has a little deli that you can't do your shopping in so you drive - or pay Woolies online prices - both affected by fuel price. But you say the answer is just "don't live there then" - hardly an option. They are not "regional centres" but still have Govt workers and people living there to provide services.
You made it sound as if only farmers should live there, and as if only regional centres have people who don't farm!

I am in the first town out of Perth, barely past the sight of the CBD, and it costs $50 to drive down and back.

Fuel prices surely must be hurting the econom when the big companies just raise it as they see fit. It is bloody criminal when they claimed hi prices due to Aussie dollar, and when we strengthened from $1.30 to even with the USD the prices didn't drop. Wankers.

If what you say is true its not just people living in the country living on borrowed time. Many Australians need cars to get anywhere as they live in suburbs that have no public transport.

The answer is not to limit people's mobility. People won't accept that. I won't accept that. I live about 300 meters away from a major Sydney suburban train station. My work is a ten minute walk from where I live. So I personally could survive if fuel went up to $5 or $50 a litre. However I enjoy getting out on the weekend to go windsurfing and I have to drive to do so. I like to go for a drive somewhere if I want to. Why shouldn't I? Its still a semi-free country and having a car is a big part of that sense of freedom.

What will happen if fuel continues to up in price is alternatives way of getting around will spring up. Some alternatives seem to be quite expensive and don't really make much sense, like the electric car from GM, the Volt, or hydrogen fueled cars. An alternative which I believe does have legs are cheap low powered diesel vehicles. They could easily get milage of under 4 litres per 100 kms which is better milage than the best hybrid vehicles. Diesel motors can be modified to run on vegetable oil. This is a low tech and cheap way for people to get around even if big oil and big government decides petrol should be $10 or $100 a litre.

Mobydisc said...

if fuel went up to $5 or $50 a litre. However I enjoy getting out on the weekend to go windsurfing and I have to drive to do so.

You'd still go windsurfing at $5 a litre. How far do you live from the coast? I used to go most weekends from Canberra, 300 km round trip, $45 worth. Often no wind, turn around go home. Maybe Canberrans have an argument there. Maybe they'd organise a bus, car pool an economical micro car and leave gear down there? maybe lake BG isn't all that bad. Lake George might fill up. There's always a solution.

Mark _australia said...

^^^ you miss the point Ian. A town of 100 - 500 ppl, about 150km from a capital city has a little deli that you can't do your shopping in so you drive - or pay Woolies online prices - both affected by fuel price. But you say the answer is just "don't live there then" - hardly an option. They are not "regional centres" but still have Govt workers and people living there to provide services.
You made it sound as if only farmers should live there, and as if only regional centres have people who don't farm!

I am in the first town out of Perth, barely past the sight of the CBD, and it costs $50 to drive down and back.

Fuel prices surely must be hurting the econom when the big companies just raise it as they see fit. It is bloody criminal when they claimed hi prices due to Aussie dollar, and when we strengthened from $1.30 to even with the USD the prices didn't drop. Wankers.

I get the feeling you want the government to intervene. I mean you aren't going to get a for profit business to drop prices to make it easier for everyone, and why should they?

evlPanda said...

elmo said...

We grizzle about $1.50 for a litre of petrol but happily pay +$2 for a bottle of filtered bore water spring water

It tastes better than the petrol.

It should do it costs twice as much.


If you really want proof that the petrol price changes are a farce

Register for fuel watch www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/fuelwatch/index.jspx

Then watch the daily price fluctuations in your area between ULP and diesel.

Diesel prices are steady as a rock whilst petrol is all over the place.

How can diesel prices remain steady when it comes from the same crude oil.