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log man
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10 Aug 2010 11:59am
Anyone see it? I thought it was a really good performance, what did you think?
cisco
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10 Aug 2010 12:23pm
An orchestrated performance with a couple of plants in the audience to ask the questions on which she could score some big points with the electorate.

I wonder if Q&A has lost it's integrity.
deXtrous
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10 Aug 2010 12:37pm
Saw it.. Was not impressed.

I laughed a bit when she tried to diverge from giving an answer when Tony asked if she had any voice training.

I wish people would've pressed on harder issues and made her look more like a fool.

The last question was a kicker though!
Bonominator
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10 Aug 2010 12:42pm
deXtrous said...

Saw it.. Was not impressed.

I laughed a bit when she tried to diverge from giving an answer when Tony asked if she had any voice training.

I wish people would've pressed on harder issues and made her look more like a fool.

The last question was a kicker though!


I thought she was OK, but you can't make someone look like a fool when clearly they're not. Got sick of her starting every answer with "I understand...". Last question was a goodie.
Bonominator
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10 Aug 2010 12:43pm
cisco said...

An orchestrated performance with a couple of plants in the audience to ask the questions on which she could score some big points with the electorate.

I wonder if Q&A has lost it's integrity.


I think you need to drop the conspiracy theories mate.
dirtyharry
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10 Aug 2010 10:59am
Bonominator said...

deXtrous said...

Saw it.. Was not impressed.

I laughed a bit when she tried to diverge from giving an answer when Tony asked if she had any voice training.

I wish people would've pressed on harder issues and made her look more like a fool.

The last question was a kicker though!


I thought she was OK, but you can't make someone look like a fool when clearly they're not. Got sick of her starting every answer with "I understand...". Last question was a goodie.


I thought she started every answer with "That's a good question...". It ****s me when people do that. It comes across as very patronising - nobody ever asks for a critique of their question, get to the bloody answer!!
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10 Aug 2010 1:10pm
I think that she is a highly intelligent, articulate and not bad looking sort, big bum though. She appears to have the consensus decision making team oriented outlook down to pat. It really is a question of whether it is a competent team that she leads. I think not.
As far as the QANDA performance I was impressed with a few answers. I like her atheism and the confidence that she expresses without having to cower to the bible bashers. I think her answer to the Latham question was unscipted and brilliant. In the context of an election campaign she does a reasonable job of answering the question at hand and last night did not talk gobbledegook. Unlike her East Timor solution denial "I do not want to leave undisturbed the impression"
And finally I don't get the Rudd reconciliation?

I think we are going to see the power of incumbency playing a significant role in the election result.
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10 Aug 2010 1:17pm
dirtyharry said...

Bonominator said...

deXtrous said...

Saw it.. Was not impressed.

I laughed a bit when she tried to diverge from giving an answer when Tony asked if she had any voice training.

I wish people would've pressed on harder issues and made her look more like a fool.

The last question was a kicker though!


I thought she was OK, but you can't make someone look like a fool when clearly they're not. Got sick of her starting every answer with "I understand...". Last question was a goodie.


I thought she started every answer with "That's a good question...". It ****s me when people do that. It comes across as very patronising - nobody ever asks for a critique of their question, get to the bloody answer!!



She does that to give herself thinking time to compose an answer. You or I might go um err and have awkward silences. Its probably also designed to make the questioner and audience feel comfortable and positive about her answer.
deXtrous
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10 Aug 2010 1:35pm
frant said...

She does that to give herself thinking time to compose an answer. You or I might go um err and have awkward silences. Its probably also designed to make the questioner and audience feel comfortable and positive about her answer.


Yeah or wait for the little voice in her hidden headset to give her an appropriate answer.

She's not smart. She's not nearly as articulate as Kevin Rudd and I don't really think she's much brighter than Tony Abbott. I'll give Gillard one thing, she knows how to not answer a question while making it look like she's answered a question. She's obviously had some pretty extensive training with her voice, body language and circumventive dialect.

Why am I even saying this? Everyone already knows it. Hopefully it will show in the election.
maxm
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10 Aug 2010 1:56pm
^^^

I doubt there'd be too many senior politicians on either side that would not have had coaching on how to present themselves, how to answer questions and so on. The further they get up the tree, the more coaching they'd have. Makes sense for both parties to try to make their front line-up look as good as they can get them.

Disagree with you though about not being smart. She was a lawyer in her former life so she can't be too dumb. Smarter than the budgie smuggler? Highly likely.
maxm
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10 Aug 2010 2:02pm
Meant to add... I thought she did a fair job tackling what she got. But there could've been more tough questions. It was certainly good that it was almost all about their policies, not about bagging the other side. Barely even a mention of the Libs! I think the Libs would do well to take note.

The Latham answer was classic.
getfunky
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10 Aug 2010 12:28pm
Liked most of it.

She manages to (most of the time) still seem human. She is very smart and can think on her feet extremely well.

Sick to kn death of the 'hands up' etc tho.

Copped it sweet on the govt fk ups but (finally) sung some self praise over the little things like sving our collective bacon (despite a few 'shonks' souring a small part of the deal).

Really liked that she (almost) straight out said "Oi don't need to appologise to Kev coz oi made a decission - it was for the boist and now oim the boss".

Would like to see IF the mad wingo could be anywhere near as 'real', relaxed, honest or informed accross a number of issues. He will never do a solo spot like that - he'd probably have the machismo to give it crack - but his party knows him best and would never allow it. What does that say - even they don't trust him.
log man
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10 Aug 2010 3:35pm
Getfunky ,I think Abbott is on next week. Should be interesting. I thought Gillard was outstanding but I'm rusted on. And I couldn't help thinking that this election would be much harder to win against Turnbull than Abbott. What do the Lib voters out there think?
log man
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10 Aug 2010 3:36pm
Yeah, what was the last question, I forget
frant
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10 Aug 2010 3:37pm

She's not smart. She's not nearly as articulate as Kevin Rudd


You are talking about a bloke who actually had the articulation and presence of mind to say "Fair shake of the sauce bottle".

I gotta be fair dinkum here but that ain't no Aussie colloquialism and is not articulate.
FlySurfer
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10 Aug 2010 4:10pm


Don't believe a word.


Kevin didn't drink tap water so he was s m a t.
maxm
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10 Aug 2010 4:48pm
Didn't realise she was from SA originally. Probably accounts for the accent. I went to a party one time at a friends place. Was talking to this guy (about boats) ... he had a bit of a strange accent and so I asked him if he was from New Zealand. He said "No. I come from South Australia. We all talk like this!!"
frant
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10 Aug 2010 5:03pm
maxm said...

Didn't realise she was from SA originally. Probably accounts for the accent. I went to a party one time at a friends place. Was talking to this guy (about boats) ... he had a bit of a strange accent and so I asked him if he was from New Zealand. He said "No. I come from South Australia. We all talk like this!!"



I think you might find its Wales boyo. that'll make you talk funny.
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10 Aug 2010 5:56pm
deXtrous said...
Yeah or wait for the little voice in her hidden headset to give her an appropriate answer.

She's not smart. She's not nearly as articulate as Kevin Rudd and I don't really think she's much brighter than Tony Abbott. I'll give Gillard one thing, she knows how to not answer a question while making it look like she's answered a question. She's obviously had some pretty extensive training with her voice, body language and circumventive dialect.

Why am I even saying this? Everyone already knows it. Hopefully it will show in the election.


I can't work out whether you're trolling, taking the p$@* or some form of closed minded Liberal die hard. Whether you like Julia Gillard or not you can't deny that she's a highly intelligent, highly articulate woman. Kevin Rudd is highly intelligent but he's not articulate in the sense of conveying what he's thinking to a general audience effectively. That's partly why he got into strife. He also speaks in a very highfalutin vernacular which I don't think does him any favors with the general public.

On the other hand there is Abbott, the dude is a dunce - straight up. The most affable, articulate person in the Liberal party in my opinion is Turncoat, but they got rid of him. I think the twitter feed on next weeks Q&A should contain some epic hilarity.

RE the debate I think she handled it pretty well. She seemed honest, personable, called a spade a spade and didn't do too much buck passing. I do agree though that overall the questions weren't too cut throat.

I cracked up when they were talking about Coles/Woolies putting the prices up if the business tax rate goes up. The guy in the audience equated the same thing to the RSPT/cost of our commodities; queue audience loudly cheering. Of course anyone with half a brain knows that commodity prices are set globally, hence it's like comparing an apple to a steak...not even in the same ballpark. It goes to show how little the greater community knows about some of the biggest issues in this election.




NotWal
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10 Aug 2010 6:54pm
frant said...


She's not smart. She's not nearly as articulate as Kevin Rudd


You are talking about a bloke who actually had the articulation and presence of mind to say "Fair shake of the sauce bottle".

I gotta be fair dinkum here but that ain't no Aussie colloquialism and is not articulate.


Well in fact it is, here in Qld anyway. It's just the sort of thing you would expect someone like him to say. So - not as phoney as some seem to think.

Ruddy is a tad prolix. Julia is a better communicator imo, but very much the politician ie a mistress of spin.
getfunky
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10 Aug 2010 5:20pm
If Tony had half a brain he'd spin too, instead all we get from him is "Aaarr.. blah illegal immigrants..aarr..blah cue jumpers blah..aarr..mining companies..aaarr" - "But Mister Rabbit we haven't started the interview yet and I just asked you if you have had a nice day." "Aaaarr... real Julia.. aaarr.. insulation blah.. aaarr."

Boy has Julia Goolia cleaned up her accent or what?? 50 yrs bogun - a few weeks in the top job and she sounds like a Toorak Cowgirl (not quite).

It will be painful for me but I am lookin forward to counting how many 'aarrs' and how many 'straight' answers we get from him on QandA next week.
Cassa
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10 Aug 2010 6:19pm
getfunky said...

Liked most of it.

She manages to (most of the time) still seem human. She is very smart and can think on her feet extremely well.


Only because everything is so well scripted for her, you said this yourself ;


Boy has Julia Goolia cleaned up her accent or what?? 50 yrs bogun - a few weeks in the top job and she sounds like a Toorak Cowgirl


she,, like kev,, is being trained to be as likeable to the public as poss .


Just because she was a lawyer doesnt make her smart , ask the people she wants to vote for her, most of them LIVE ,, life ,, know what the real world is like ,having commitments , educating their own siblings , trying to bring them up to be good people, paying bills on time ,etc,
politicians like the pointy nosed red setter dont know what REAL life is like , as I said ,everthing is scripted for them



Being well educated does not necessarily make you smart, (it makes you well educated)
living and experiencing all the ups and downs life throws at you and knowing how best to cope with them gives you a true perspective on how to deal with the different situations that are thrust upon us .

Shame there is not one politician like this,

She stuck the knife in her bosses back quite calmly and willingly ,, wtf will she do to us
log man
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11 Aug 2010 1:13am
I love the way people show their ignorance by referring to their obviously more talented brothers and sisters as "stupid" or "idiots". Folks who can only just operate the garage remote control feel it's O.K to call Stephen Hawking an imbecile. CASA just a couple of notes for you. 1. Gillard is smart(she can even pay her own bills on time).. 2 You said " bringing up her own siblings,educating her own siblings"... is this a veiled reference to her being childless?, if it is, then your playing dirty pool and you should apologize...3 being well educated makes you smarter.. 4 ... you said " shame there's not one politician like this ". What! Pauline not running this time?
busterwa
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10 Aug 2010 11:56pm
Do yourself a favour and vote liberal before it turns into a muslim state paid for by your taxes.
They can leave the blood shed on there waters. asylum seekers and values have no place in a westernized world.
labour is finished. You wont have to worry about workchoices if you are a minority in a country flooded by polotitions who open the floodgates spending welfare
on housing terrorist rather than creating a hostpitable bed for you grand mother.
Seems the welfare handouts are to much labour as fast as you were voted in because of howard workchoices you will be voted out because of your blatent negelct to adress key issues.

Labour is finished.
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11 Aug 2010 10:01am
Bonominator said...

cisco said...

An orchestrated performance with a couple of plants in the audience to ask the questions on which she could score some big points with the electorate.

I wonder if Q&A has lost it's integrity.


I think you need to drop the conspiracy theories mate.


So how do you think they get the independent audience?.... accept the first group of people in the door which would probably be "rent a crowd" or Uni students on a day off or one of many minority groups.... NO these sort of show are well "staged" with a balanced selected group.
Remember that most people hate public speaking let alone being on TV and when put in front of a camera tend to ummmm and arrrrr lots or have long winded questions or statements.
The entire show would be well structured but not scripted.
Have you ever wondered how the camera is framed and focused on the person speaking next with a microphone in front of them, and why the people with most to say just happen to sit in the first few rows in good camera shot? (Its NOT by accident)
I've been employed in the TV industry for more than 30 years and done lots of forum type shows and every one has been WELL stage managed.
frant
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11 Aug 2010 10:37am
I happened to see Abbot interviewed by that other ranga ALP stalwart on ABC last night. It is pretty disappointing when the interviewer takes on the role as opponent by pushing his personal opinion and makes jibes against the interviewee.
I think that this was a terribly biased interview and was unfair on Abbot. Shame on the ABC and Kerry O'Brien. The Australian public deserve the opportunity to make up their own mind, not have Kerry O'Briens view shoved down their throat.
Bonominator
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11 Aug 2010 11:01am
frant said...

dirtyharry said...

Bonominator said...

deXtrous said...

Saw it.. Was not impressed.

I laughed a bit when she tried to diverge from giving an answer when Tony asked if she had any voice training.

I wish people would've pressed on harder issues and made her look more like a fool.

The last question was a kicker though!



I thought she was OK, but you can't make someone look like a fool when clearly they're not. Got sick of her starting every answer with "I understand...". Last question was a goodie.


I thought she started every answer with "That's a good question...". It ****s me when people do that. It comes across as very patronising - nobody ever asks for a critique of their question, get to the bloody answer!!



She does that to give herself thinking time to compose an answer. You or I might go um err and have awkward silences. Its probably also designed to make the questioner and audience feel comfortable and positive about her answer.


I know but it's still annoying, but now that I think about it more, better than umming and aaahing for sure.

Bonominator
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11 Aug 2010 11:26am
busterwa said...

Do yourself a favour and vote liberal before it turns into a muslim state paid for by your taxes.
They can leave the blood shed on there waters. asylum seekers and values have no place in a westernized world.
labour is finished. You wont have to worry about workchoices if you are a minority in a country flooded by polotitions who open the floodgates spending welfare
on housing terrorist rather than creating a hostpitable bed for you grand mother.
Seems the welfare handouts are to much labour as fast as you were voted in because of howard workchoices you will be voted out because of your blatent negelct to adress key issues.

Labour is finished.


LOL. A total misunderstanding of the world around you. I really struggled to find any logic or facts in what you said. I have to put what you said into perspective:

If you really want a muslim state move to Saudi Arabia. That statement is crap.

It is modern western values that permit people to seek asylum from war, violence and starvation, so how you can argue that compassion is not a western value is bizarre. Xenophobes have been making that argument for decades and they're always proved wrong over time. First, it was the Chinese, then the Jews, then the Italians, Yugoslavs and Europeans, then the Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Africans and finally, now muslims, Sri Lankans and Afghans. Apart from the last few groups which still seem to elicit exaggerated political argument, all others are accepted as hard working Australians by everyone except the most extreme minority - and they're just crazy and beyond redemption.

It's amazing that you actually verbalise your paranoid beliefs about white Australians becoming the minority. That's what Hitler used to do when talking about Jews in Germany, to name one example.

What is it with this concern about welfare payments? I suspect you listen to too many radio shock jocks who continually regurgitate the same nonsense about welfare without any factual journalistic basis. Time and again those jocks are proven wrong, but people still listen, because it gives them something to vent their frustration with life at.

On Labour, you're just dreaming to put it plainly. More like the other way around. But I'm sure Turnbull will make a far better opposition leader and bring some sanity back to the LN Party. Australia deserves it.
NotWal
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11 Aug 2010 12:08pm
busterwa said...

Do yourself a favour and vote liberal before it turns into a muslim state paid for by your taxes.
They can leave the blood shed on there waters. asylum seekers and values have no place in a westernized world.
labour is finished. You wont have to worry about workchoices if you are a minority in a country flooded by polotitions who open the floodgates spending welfare
on housing terrorist rather than creating a hostpitable bed for you grand mother.
Seems the welfare handouts are to much labour as fast as you were voted in because of howard workchoices you will be voted out because of your blatent negelct to adress key issues.

Labour is finished.


he he he he....This MUST be a Labor disinformation scam.

If Tony read this he'd sigh with despair.


wheelnut
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11 Aug 2010 10:22am
May the BEST liar win on the 21st, the whole thing is getting boring
Cassa
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11 Aug 2010 12:27pm
wheelnut said...

May the BEST liar win on the 21st, the whole thing is getting boring


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