The more you read on the subject of "Global Warming" and "Rising Sea Levels" the more doubts seem to come to the surface?
Any opinions?

I used to believe all that was said about global warming and the dire warnings of gloom and calamity that would afflict the world due to our vile ways.

However I am not sure now. If global warming is happening I do not understand how it automatically means Australia will become more inhospitable. From what I understand, warmer air holds more water vapour, meaning more rain. So should we not expect higher rainfall across Australia? If not then surely the large landmass across Canada, northern Europe and Russia will become more productive as they are not covered in snow for six months of the year.

The fact is climate always changes. Science generally accepts that average temperatures for the Earth are generally lower than what we currently have. Global cooling would be much worse for us and the environment than global warming. Nothing much grows or lives on an ice cube.

I do believe global warming is becoming an industry, much like the Aboriginal industry or the child protection industry. What is a legimate cause becomes a livelyhood for the experts and masters of that area. They earn good money through grants and salaries to put forward their views.

In regards to the scientists who warn about global warming. The best thing they could do is kill themselves. If they are dead they will no longer produce Co2, except from their rotting corpse. However as they live, drive their car, eat food, fart, breathe, go on a trip overseas, etc, etc, they are producing Co2 and other greenhouse gasses.

Don't know that I believe in Global Warming - but I do believe in climate change. Seems the self-feeding industry that has arisen from the Global Warming theories takes all the data supporting and ignores all that that does not (and the data that doesn't support is substantial as well which really shows that schools out on the whole theory in reality at this point) - the whole industry is sounding more political than scientific every day. But we (humans) have enjoyed a very stable climate for the past few thousand years and that is going to change irrespective of what we do. Must appreciate though that the side benefit of the pro-global warming industry is that we are looking at how we can reduce the pollution damage that humankind is doing to the planet. I just hope the industry is not creating a situation where all the funding it is getting is in the wrong directions - and this will affect the world economically as well with the whole carbon economics scenario arising.

PS: How many people know of the thousands of square miles of floating plastic sea in the middle of the Pacific in the current vortex zone - getting much bigger every year. It is where a very large proportion of all the garbage that floats out of storm water drains etc from the americas and asia ends up.

TonyC said...
PS: How many people know of the thousands of square miles of floating plastic sea in the middle of the Pacific in the current vortex zone - getting much bigger every year. It is where a very large proportion of all the garbage that floats out of storm water drains etc from the americas and asia ends up.

It's unbelievable... what's scary is that all that plastic is entering the food chain

www.smh.com.au/environment/the-plastic-killing-fields-20071229-gdruv8.html?page=fullpage

TonyC said...


Sorry I understated it - hundreds of thousands of cubic miles (not just surface). I think this should be one of the very major concerns affecting the world's scientists and enviromentalists - how to stop adding to it and how to clean it up - if that is at all possible.

Fairly easy to stop it growing, stop dropping rubbish in the street. I lived in Hong Kong for a while and people over there used to drop rubbish wherever they felt like until the government brought in big fines for littering and inspectors to police the streets. Same as in Australia, back in the 70s there was the clean up Australia campaign. We need to keep on it too.

Cleaning it all up would be costly but technically doable. Just get some big ships and scoop up all the crap out there and then bury it somewhere.

TonyC said...

nebbian said...

TonyC said...
PS: How many people know of the thousands of square miles of floating plastic sea in the middle of the Pacific in the current vortex zone - getting much bigger every year. It is where a very large proportion of all the garbage that floats out of storm water drains etc from the americas and asia ends up.

It's unbelievable... what's scary is that all that plastic is entering the food chain

www.smh.com.au/environment/the-plastic-killing-fields-20071229-gdruv8.html?page=fullpage

Sorry I understated it - hundreds of thousands of cubic miles (not just surface). I think this should be one of the very major concerns affecting the world's scientists and enviromentalists - how to stop adding to it and how to clean it up - if that is at all possible.

that's bazaar, i never knew about this. Have a look at :

365daysoftrash.blogspot.com/2008/02/our-plastic-seas-pacific-gyre.html

www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Ocean/Trashing-Oceans-Plastic4nov02.htm

or

www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Ocean/Moore-Trashed-PacificNov03.htm

Richiefish said...

better safe than sorry...how bout this one, Unless humans are an introduced species to this planet ,ie feral, everything we do is "natural". including wiping the place out. Natures way may be for us to cull our selves every millenium or so ?????[}:)]

richie, you would be amazed how many people do not understand this concept! its a bit like saying the future is unavoidable and nothing you do will change the future. the future is just another name for the past, only it hasnt happened yet.