Happiness program on ABC

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oliver
oliver
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15 Nov 2010 7:59pm
Anyone watch it?

They didn't go into any details of the "scientifically proven" test but it was basically a questioner that they gave the 8 volunteers, from Maracville - Australia's unhappiest suburb - that measured how happy they were at the start of the program and again in three weeks time.

According to the experts most Australians measure between 75 and 80, if you score under 50 you are at risk of getting chronic depression. All the volunteers in the first test scored under 70. One of them scored 30 in the first test measured 85 in the second test.

Apart from the dubious test, I thought the program was quite good, in that it showed different strategies that you can use to think about and improve happiness.


Greenroom
Greenroom
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15 Nov 2010 8:12pm
Im the most happiest when Im on the water windsurfing, SUP surfing or even surfing
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
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15 Nov 2010 8:52pm
I have it Tvio 'ed..so hope to watch it later
it's only 7.53pm here
elbeau
elbeau
WA
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16 Nov 2010 12:38am
I listened to a report on the radio of a study carried out by a psychologist.

He claimed there where 3 levels of happiness.

The first level was when people (like Greenroom) were doing an activity that they enjoyed,surfing,golf etc

The next level was when people where involved in an activity they enjoyed and where paid to do it. Eg Professional surfer, golfer etc

The third level (and the happiest people he found ) where those that were doing something they enjoyed and were then paid for it. Then they used some of that money to help others Eg orphans.

Doing something you love. Getting paid to do it. Getting the joy and satisfaction from helping someone who can't help themselves. Happiest people in the world he reckoned.
Gorgo
Gorgo
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16 Nov 2010 10:51am
I watched a few minutes of it. There were a couple of stunts and setups that were more annoying than informative or entertaining.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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16 Nov 2010 11:25am
Was busy with kids when it was on and only got to see 50%.

Some interesting techniques, but nothing particulalry new. Still it's good to be reminded (regularly) about the ability to find happiness around you, and that term 'midfulness' is everywhere in self help/psych these days. Not without good reason either.

Agree about some of the toss stunts and the main help dude is actually a bit grating - but I spose he is a glass half full.
cranky
cranky
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16 Nov 2010 12:08pm
I'm off to practice mindfulness, just did the test and got 46 wtf!
Gorgo
Gorgo
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16 Nov 2010 3:22pm
elbeau said...

I listened to a report on the radio of a study carried out by a psychologist.

He claimed there where 3 levels of happiness.

The first level was when people (like Greenroom) were doing an activity that they enjoyed,surfing,golf etc

The next level was when people where involved in an activity they enjoyed and where paid to do it. Eg Professional surfer, golfer etc

The third level (and the happiest people he found ) where those that were doing something they enjoyed and were then paid for it. Then they used some of that money to help others Eg orphans.

Doing something you love. Getting paid to do it. Getting the joy and satisfaction from helping someone who can't help themselves. Happiest people in the world he reckoned.


It's a lovely idea and something to aspire to, but it's not true.

If it were true all surf bums would be happy all the time, all professional sports people and musicians would be ecstatically cheerful, and all social workers would be leaping for joy all the time.

We know that all the people we look up to are miserable about the same as the rest of us.

The truth is that "happiness" is a mythical, transitory state. We are all happy some of the time, miserable some of the time, and all sorts of other feelings in between.

If we were "happy" all the time we would probably be demented as well.

It is possible that the biggest barrier to happiness is the pursuit of happiness. "I'm not happy because all those other people are better looking, smarter, richer, more talented, thinner ... than me"

Programs that force people to do things they don't want to in order to be happy could be seen as victimising people. "Hey you. Social phobic! Go and be the life of the party."

Buddhism, and other philosophies teach acceptance. Basically enjoy the good bits and don't sweat the bad bits.

Probably the best we can hope for is general contentedness with moments of joy and happiness and tolerable moments of stress and difficulty.

Arguably the happiest people are parents with reasonably sane kids, a decent home, the mortgage under control, a root once a month and their footy team doing ok.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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17 Nov 2010 4:29pm
It is possible that the biggest barrier to happiness is the pursuit of happiness.


Of course. You can't be happy while you are looking for happiness.

And I feel that "happiness" is not something to gain, but things to lose. Happiness is the complete lack of suffering.
SandS
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17 Nov 2010 9:07pm

I watched the show, thought it was interesting .

But to say that happieness is the complete lack of suffering.... well i recon the day that happens is the last day!! suffering in some way is part of life.

elbeau
elbeau
WA
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17 Nov 2010 11:31pm
To live is to suffer. Some people aren't happy unless they are suffering

Happiness is faith in God. Happy atheists will have some future input.
oliver
oliver
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18 Nov 2010 11:53am
I wish I was as happy as the psychologist who was handing out the phoney tests to all those miserable people.
evlPanda
evlPanda
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18 Nov 2010 4:59pm
SandS said...


I watched the show, thought it was interesting .

But to say that happieness is the complete lack of suffering.... well i recon the day that happens is the last day!! suffering in some way is part of life.


... and once you accept suffering, really look at it, live with it and so on, the suffering goes away, even though the condition that made you once suffer is still there.

or i could just be talking our my arse. Happens.

SandS
SandS
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18 Nov 2010 7:58pm
evlPanda said...

SandS said...


I watched the show, thought it was interesting .

But to say that happieness is the complete lack of suffering.... well i recon the day that happens is the last day!! suffering in some way is part of life.


... and once you accept suffering, really look at it, live with it and so on, the suffering goes away, even though the condition that made you once suffer is still there.

or i could just be talking our my arse. Happens.




hmmmmm. now your just messing with my mind !!!
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