Hooka or SCUBA?

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busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
5 Feb 2013 10:25pm
done a reasonable amount of diving but only been with a hooker once !


Dives 5-15 metres across reef for crays and spearfishing etc. Guess with both you allways require someone on the boat . advantages disadvantages. Do you require a bcd dive compensator for that depth with a hooker? Its cheaper for multiple people to dive from a hooker rather than everyone individually get scuba gear. Do they have a fail safe accumulation tank? how do they work?

Probally the wrong but right forum to post as most of you all dive aswell as hit the wind in 25 knots.
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
5 Feb 2013 10:42pm
What about a rebreather ?
Looks good to me ^

If I could just dive with a pony bottle
that would suit me too, but need a little more
air than that
..I hate cumbersome gear
sameh
sameh
WA
310 posts
WA, 310 posts
5 Feb 2013 11:42pm
i dive almost exclusively with hooka setups. I have 2 battery powered units a power snorkel that floats behind you in an inflatable enclosure and will get 2 divers down to 10 to 12 metres depending on breathing techniques and an extreme snorkel that will get 2 divers down to 20 metres that is fixed to either the larger boat or to the inflatable tender. I also use a portable honda powered floating generator that will get 2 divers down to 40 metres or 4 divers to 20 metres. All of these units gave a pressurised accumulation tank. However when diving below 20 metres its safer to take a pony tank just in case the machine splutters or stops. Nowdays i very rarely dive below 15 metres and find that the hooka allows for 2, 3 or 4 of us to dive all weekend for less than a jerry can of unleaded. I have moved away from fixed hookas because of the length of hose required to acheive any real distance away from the anchored vessel. I will post a few pics of the floating honda powered hooka i picked up from the states that allows almost unlimited diving freedom for 4 divers with 4 runs of 50 metre hose. We dont use bc's. The regulators are connected via a light webbing harness. For the kind of shallow recreational diving we do nowdays the hooka setup is much more practical than tanks. No need to drive to get tanks refilled. no cumbersome setups, much lighter weight belts. For under $2000 you can pick up a honda powered floating hooka from the states rigged for 4 divers. Thats around the price of a single decent scuba outfit. Horses for courses, if i was diving in deeper water i would prefer the safety of an air tank strapped to my back. Shallow water diving Hooka every day of the week.
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
5 Feb 2013 11:59pm
Was a keen diver in the '70s and 80s. After using friends' gear (tanks and hooka) for a year or so I had absolutely no hesitation buying my own hooka. Over the years I added stuff and ended up with a little over 200m of hose. I too spent 90+% of my time in <30', chasing crays and the odd tasty fish. You can stay down all day if you want. No decompression required for 30' or less. I spent 7.5 hours underwater one day, in one continuous session. No encumbrance on your back means getting those wily ol' crays who've hidden back under narrow ledges for years. Got a 14 pounder once at Sister's Beach.
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
1929 posts
QLD, 1929 posts
6 Feb 2013 7:27am
Are you allowed to spearfish or collect crays on scuba/hookah? not allowed in NSW or QLD as far as I know, dunno about WA.
Skid
Skid
QLD
1499 posts
QLD, 1499 posts
6 Feb 2013 2:17pm
Bustrewa,
The replies so far are pretty much on the money. I owned scuba first including 2 x 92 tanks. Once I bought a hooka I rarely used the tanks between their annual hydro tests.
For the 5-15m range, a hooka is perfect. Though I would not recommend it over tanks for penetration (loss of surface) wreck dives.
For deep dives (25m+) I would still use tanks, though I have used a hooka for 25m dives and been able to extend the dive longer than with tanks by doing the first part of the dive at 25m and then using the remainder of the dive (3 hours in total) working back up an essentially using this time as a deco stop. (With tanks available as a back-up deco stop supply).
A word of caution: if you go for a petrol powered unit, be absolutely sure that the air intake cannot fall down into the boat (where the fumes are). The filters will not take out carbon monoxide and you cannot taste/smell it. Carbon monoxide will kill you fairly quickly.

Happy (and safe) diving
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
6 Feb 2013 4:08pm
busterwa said...

done a reasonable amount of diving but only been with a hooker once !



Was that muff diving????
(the one with the hooker)
[}:)]
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