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petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
21 Sep 2011 3:54pm
by Dan Abshear
(henrymakow.com)


What would you do, if you had everything, and then suddenly lost all of that in a matter of seconds?

That is what happened to me two years ago. My now ex-wife of two decades got a restraining order against me, and I was evicted from my $250,000 home.

Ten police officers arrived and I was given two minutes to leave my own home. I grabbed some clothes, and got in my car. I had no idea what to do next. I had to somehow live out of my car.

Sleeping out of your own car is not easy. You can't exactly park anywhere. Initially, I parked in the parking lot of a library in a town in Missouri. Eventually, a police officer woke me one night, and informed me this was illegal. Fortunately, the police officer was gentle with me, and told me to go sleep at a truck stop. This was an excellent idea- not many bother you at a truck stop. I slept at truck stops for months.

"URBAN CAMPING"

You see, you can't sleep anywhere you want, when you are homeless. Even without a car, you can't simply decide to sleep in a field. Likely, that field belongs to someone else. You can get arrested. Those in the homeless world call this 'urban camping'. People go to jail for this. Many decide to sleep in abandoned buildings, behind abandoned buildings, or on top of buildings. All such acts are illegal. It's just a matter of time before you're caught.

Then you have weather issues. It gets rather cold in winter in most parts of the United States. I know of people who have frozen to death sleeping under bridges. It's also dangerous. In many cases, such people who die sleeping outside do so by choice. Suicide rates are extremely high among the homeless for obvious reasons.


I'm active online. I have many friends on Facebook. I also have girls who have unrealistic affinities for me on Facebook. One girl was from Atlanta, Georgia. She and I spoke online and on the phone for a couple of years, even before my ex wife decided to destroy me. She was infatuated with me, quite clearly. She was aware of my homeless situation, and invited me to live with her in Atlanta. Much to my opposition, she left her husband of 12 years, for me. I made the trip down to Atlanta, and decided to live with this girl.

We lived together for about 6 months. It's never a good idea, I think, to move on relationships you may form online. Quite understandably, I was not the man she perceived me to be. Her emotions for me where quite stronger than any feelings I had for her.

She got pregnant with our child towards the end of our 6 months together, so I decided to check myself into drug rehabilitation with the veterans administration, since I'm a military veteran, and I had had a rather significant addiction to drugs and alcohol for many years. While recovering in drug rehabilitation, this girl decided to abort our child without my consent. This of course ended our relationship, and my place to stay.

The VA has a homeless program for veterans, and I entered this program. It was a very good program. They provided a roof over my head, an apartment, for several months. But you must be recovering from substance use, in order to be in the program. So, it's always a good idea to at least say you have a problem with drugs and alcohol, even if you don't, while homeless, and in need of a place to stay. This not only involves the VA but other programs that often exist in large cities within the United States, for homeless people with substance issues.

HOMELESS SHELTERS

Homeless shelters themselves in larges US cities often suck They are unclean, and do not allow you to stay there for long periods of time. They are also unsafe, since security is virtually non-existent. Any possessions you may have are likely to be gone in a short period of time. Always seek drug rehabilitation facilities. They are much safer and you, as a homeless person, can stay at such facilities much longer.

At such locations, there is often a Christan element. Learn to accept this religious dimension if you are not Christian.

Homeless people panhandle- ask strangers for money. I've never done this, but it does happen- especially in large cities in the United States. There are laws involving this activity. If you are homeless, learn these laws. Don't go to jail trying to survive.

Also, when you become homeless, get food stamps. They are easy to get. Most counties have locations to get food stamps. It's $200 dollars a month that enables you to eat. The food you are allow to get has to be cold, and cannot include alcohol purchases.

Many homeless decide to sell their food stamps, in order to have money, unfortunately for drugs. The going rate is 50 cents for every food stamp dollar you sell to another. You can go several days, in fact weeks, without eating. This is why you see homeless drug addicts very skinny and malnourished.

With food stamps, in most states, you can acquire a free cell phone. I did this in Atlanta. It's 250 free minutes a month, for a year or longer. As a homeless person, it's likely you will not have many friends calling you on your free cell phone. But such a phone is necessary often, for potential job interviews, and potential crisis situations.

Presently, I'm staying at the Salvation Army, through the VA homeless program, at a different location In St. Louis, Missouri. I moved here because this is where I'm from, and all those I care about live. I have no idea what tomorrow will bring me, but I'm glad I have a place to stay. When you are homeless, it's all about acquiring resources. Even if you are not presently homeless, learn to do this. Do not find yourself in a situation where you feel you have the inability to survive. Learn to exist.
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I would like to add that there are social stigmas associated with being homeless. Most ignore us.

I helped homeless often with cash normally back when I was making money, but I never got involved in their situations. And I did judge them, and I regret that now.

Because I used to make a lot of money, I have taste in quality clothes. So I bought some 500 dollar sport coats at a goodwill store recently. I now wear those at various places in the city, and people treat me as if I'm not homeless. They have no idea. I

I really wonder how many homeless people are out there have disguised themselves in such ways.


evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
21 Sep 2011 8:44pm
So I asked a homeless guy I see around a bit, Craig, why he is homeless when we have social security. He told me that because he doesn't have an address he can't receive any mail and therefore no benefits. I gave him my address to use, said I'd leave his mail out where he can find it/letterbox unlocked.

I still haven't received a letter for him.
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
21 Sep 2011 9:03pm
^^^^I cant beleive you have been cashing his checks....thats low.

When I first moved to where I am now,
I applied for a very sort after job,,I got it and was the most qualified but when they found out, 3 days after giving me the job, I didnt have a mailing address(had just moved to the area and was camping till I found work and knew things were worth staying for) they gave me the flick.

Said someone with no fixed address was too much of a risk,,even when I was the most qualified and explained my situation and had proven long term employment.

In hind sight, I should have given ANY address (even if I didnt know the owners)till I moved into a property,,which I did 2 weeks later.
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
21 Sep 2011 9:33pm
That story was... pretty ordinary. I could whip up better in 5 mins, jerk some tears.

The writer also describes himself as
Dan Abshear
Revenue-Generating Virtuoso

Here
http://www.linkedin.com/in/pharmagod

Anyway, came to say that henrymakow site is full of crackpottery of the highest order. Check the headline under your story

Obama - Product of Illuminati Breeding Program?
Presidential Breeding:
The Making Of A Black President


PM you need to keep away from sites like this, even if you're getting better at picking the sanest story on there.
actiomax
actiomax
NSW
1576 posts
NSW, 1576 posts
21 Sep 2011 9:53pm
If 90% of all accidents occur in the home ,were are homless people having 90% of all there accidents ? Ive meet homeless people living under the harbour bridge in tents hidden in the gardens under one of the ramps & they did it through choice its free accomidation in the heart of the city they were from oberon the salvation army feed them a homless shelter let them shower & use a an address so they got the dole & they spend the days on the beaches with metal detectors they had more money at the end of the day than i was earning paying for rent, food ,travel for work etc for some its a missfortune ,some its a lifestyle
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
21 Sep 2011 8:02pm
Its a shame the Australian labor party ignored the " charity begins at home" and finds it better to represent and give priority to feed and house illegal immigrants.
Nail in the coffin
We should build a detention center to house our own first.
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
2115 posts
NSW, 2115 posts
21 Sep 2011 10:03pm
Sorry to hear you've been through such a tough time. I understood most homeless people have mental health issues.
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
21 Sep 2011 10:06pm
Little Jon said...

Sorry to hear you've been through such a tough time. I understood most homeless Seabreeze forum poster people have mental health issues.


I fixed that up for you
superlizard
superlizard
VIC
702 posts
VIC, 702 posts
22 Sep 2011 8:14am
Once I was asked by a homeless looking person on the street for some money, and i only had few coins on me (it was couple of bucks - but this was like 10 years ago, so it was worth more like $20 now :) ), anyways, so i took it and offered it to him, and he turned around and mumbled "that's not enough" and left without taking it.

My brother was approached by a homeless person for some food money, and then he offered them to buy them some food, but they refused it and left...

(Not generalising, just sharing my experience)

pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
22 Sep 2011 9:16am
When much younger, I slept in a car for 2 months, in and around Sydney. Small car too.
Had just bought a home and lost previous accomo, couldn't move in in time, that sort of stuff.
Didn't want to get in friends' way, plus I was curious to try.

It was hard: it felt unsafe, you have to find a place real late for fear of drunks and street noise, etc. I used to use dark alleys, which is a good-thing bad-thing. Witnessed a car break-in - car just in front of me, with a crowbar. Coulda been me.

Overall quite an experience though. Enjoyed the place for a long time when I finally got possession.
wodgina6722
wodgina6722
229 posts
229 posts
22 Sep 2011 8:19am
I noticed a guy living in Coles carpark. It was a Mazda coupe he was there for about a year. He would get up up and go to work (he worked 7 days a week long hours but would catch the bus!) his car didn't move for the whole year. He looked as if he went to the gym some nights and looked fit. I always wanted to ask him what his story it looked like he was on a mission to save money. I would of bought an old van though can't imagine living out of that thing.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
22 Sep 2011 11:48am
^ I know a guy that was living out of a van in a carpark. He was making $100K+

Some people are just tight-arses.
wodgina6722
wodgina6722
229 posts
229 posts
22 Sep 2011 9:53am
^^ I got the feeling he was doing OK some people just love to have heaps of dollars in the bank.
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