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growler
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30 Jan 2009 4:33am
As a relatively well read and educated professional with a degree and an early initial background of hard physical employment, including fishing, building, nursing etc I feel that I have a reasonably balanced view of life.
My view has been reinforced with time spent in the community helping disadvantaged and marginalised groups.
That view includes what some would call, seriously politically incorrect beliefs.
Yet I cannot reconcile from these views for I believe them to be true. I will disclose those beliefs one by one to see if there is any supportive school.

1 Women are not equal to men.
As much as they try and as much as they would like to think so they plain and simply are not. I would say they are 9/10s of men. That isn't to say men are better than women. I would class most women that I have met as BETTER than most men I have met in that they are more caring, kinder, etc. But if you took the best male cook/surfer/knitter/tennis player/artist/musician/politician/anything and matched them against the best female then the male would dominate.



I have many more views that many would deem politically incorrect and I will air them in time.
I dont wish really to initiate debate and accept that many will have a contrary view.
I really wonder (not that it really matters) but is there anyone out there that shares my belief
Sailhack
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30 Jan 2009 8:52am
growler said...

is there anyone out there that shares my belief


Nope! I don't, and I doubt many here would appreciate such a negative first post.

Go away...ya troll!


kilo513
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30 Jan 2009 10:03am
by negative you mean true!
rustbucket
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30 Jan 2009 10:19am
hi growler

Perhaps I missed something....So what wind sport or water pastime do you have as a reason to partake in our forum.

thank you for taking the time to read my response.
555
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30 Jan 2009 8:25am
rustbucket said...
water pastime


Bottom trawling.
poor relative
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30 Jan 2009 8:26am
rustbucket
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30 Jan 2009 10:26am
555 said...

rustbucket said...
water pastime


Bottom trawling.




hee hee
poor relative
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30 Jan 2009 8:32am
Worthy of Facepalm

NotWal
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30 Jan 2009 10:01am
You're half right Growler. Men and women aren't equal. They are obviously quite different, but you seem to speak from the point of view of a male looking at himself. I don't know any men who evaluate women that way unless they are picking a mixed sex football team.

The fact is that the differences between the genders are vast. Have a read of "Brain Sex" - little book, good read. Its probably out of print. It gives a balanced assessment of the differences.
rustbucket
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30 Jan 2009 11:16am
Oh I see...this thread is one of those lets write a poem or a song..

He starts with a heading "I Believe"

well lets see, I can do this as I am actually a song writer..[this is actually true]

here's my contribution

I believe....for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows. [but I cant admit to writing this]

but I see where he is going...ok so growler started the song..I added my line

so by the time everyone adds something this thread will be so nonsensical it will pale into insignificance

now i can sail again.




credits for above line: I believe....for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows.
"I Believe" Words & Music by Ervin Drake, Jimmy Shirl, Al Stillman & Irvin Graham
sausage
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30 Jan 2009 10:54am
Smooch probably hasn't picked herself up off the floor yet to respond to Growler's howler.

I sit here waiting in eager anticipation for a rebuttal
Pugwash
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30 Jan 2009 10:03am
I believe...









YOU ARE A DICK
555
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30 Jan 2009 10:05am
I think Growler just prefers men.

Not that there's anything wrong with that..
cranky
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30 Jan 2009 11:18am
Move along folks, nothing to see here, a well read and educated man with a degree has discovered that men and women are different.
sick_em_rex
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30 Jan 2009 1:25pm
growler said...






I dont wish really to initiate debate and accept that many will have a contrary view.
I really wonder (not that it really matters) but is there anyone out there that shares my belief


So you don't want to initiate debate and yet you end your rant with a question....You can't be that well read then
sausage
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30 Jan 2009 2:09pm
sick_em_rex said...

growler said...






I dont wish really to initiate debate and accept that many will have a contrary view.
I really wonder (not that it really matters) but is there anyone out there that shares my belief


So you don't want to initiate debate and yet you end your rant with a question....You can't be that well read then



and he forgot the question mark.
NotWal
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30 Jan 2009 2:46pm
Actually I agree. Women are only good for one thing. They can't hold their piss. They've got Woolworths bladders. Cant kick a footy for nuts.

Nope girls definitely make second rate blokes.

By the way, real men don't knit so thats 2 things they're good for.
Susie
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30 Jan 2009 3:36pm
Do I hold my breath and dive in??? Why not. This thread just proves that IN THE MINDS OF MOST MEN women are not and never will be equal, in every industry, sport and art. Even if their work/ skills/art is equal to or better than those of men.
Or did I just take the bait?
Leech
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30 Jan 2009 2:43pm
Susie said...

Do I hold my breath and dive in??? Why not. This thread just proves that IN THE MINDS OF MOST MEN women are not and never will be equal, in every industry, sport and art. Even if their work/ skills/art is equal to or better than those of men.
Or did I just take the bait?


Dunno if u took the bait or laid it....

In the minds of "MOST MEN"?.... you're stirring, right?
MintoxGT
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30 Jan 2009 2:44pm
Susie said...

Do I hold my breath and dive in??? Why not. This thread just proves that IN THE MINDS OF MOST MEN women are not and never will be equal, in every industry, sport and art. Even if their work/ skills/art is equal to or better than those of men.
Or did I just take the bait?


Hook line and sinker kiddo, as before mentioned ..... Move along, nothing to see here

A looser indeed is that knob!

Cheers GT
theDoctor
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30 Jan 2009 9:43pm
maybe by well read he means 'street machine', 'people' and 'zoo' magazines. and by professional he means 'rent boy'.
Sailhack
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30 Jan 2009 10:36pm
www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/
"Be kind to newcomers.
Newcomers may be annoying. They ask the wrong questions, including ones that seem obvious (or whose answers seem easy to find). But lots of valued contributors started out this way, and treating newcomers kindly makes them more likely to turn into the valuable community members we all know and love (and cut some slack when they mess up).
So while you don't have to humor them or suffer them gladly, and it's fine to point out when they make mistakes, point newcomers in the right direction in addition to turning them away from the wrong ones, and be kind to them in the process of correcting their transgressions.



I was possibly a bit harsh in my initial judgement...albeit deserved. In retrospect, I would like to respond in a more positive tone, more in kind of the attitude of the majority of the members here who welcome new peope to this forum, and perhaps even give some (in my opinion) educational advice, so here goes...

...when introducing yourself to a new audience, perhaps start with some form of 'inclusive' discussion - like;

"Hello, I'm new to seabreeze...I love being on the water, and windsports are my passion! I thought I'd like to join your remarkably famous fraternity of intelligent and comedic members, and perhaps share some of my passions, and positive energy with you....."

and please, save the negative opinions for later.

p.s. can't wait for the second instalment of wisdom...
Toadwhispera
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30 Jan 2009 9:43pm

Go and GROWL your undies!
Richiefish
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30 Jan 2009 10:56pm
If women were equal to men, they would be men.....where would we be then ???...........extinct?....
GypsyDrifter
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30 Jan 2009 11:41pm
She grabs the popcorn sits back and waits
airush geoff
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31 Jan 2009 9:19am
Susie said...

Do I hold my breath and dive in??? Why not. This thread just proves that IN THE MINDS OF MOST MEN women are not and never will be equal, in every industry, sport and art. Even if their work/ skills/art is equal to or better than those of men.
Or did I just take the bait?


Susie - your photos are fantastic and you are obviously talented in this area. I don't think anyone with half a brain would say that a bloke could take better photos..I don't think it is fair to pigeon hole men and say that we are all chauvinistic pigs....

I believe that men and women are different and those differences are to be celebrated. The way men and women in general attack the same problem or task will be different but ultimately it will usually gain the same result so who cares ?

The real question here is are kiters better than windsurfers ?
NotWal
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31 Jan 2009 10:59am
airush geoff said...
The real question here is are kiters better than windsurfers ?


not at windsurfing obviously, and since windsurfing is THE premier wind sport, then they are obviously lesser folk.
NotWal
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31 Jan 2009 11:41am
Susie said...

Do I hold my breath and dive in??? Why not. This thread just proves that IN THE MINDS OF MOST MEN women are not and never will be equal, in every industry, sport and art. Even if their work/ skills/art is equal to or better than those of men.
Or did I just take the bait?


Its probably just the men you hang around with Suze, them and nearly all the others. Like Pweedas' avatar suggests, men have a distorted view of themselves. If they didn't they would never get their ends in. It's down to testosterone. Testosterone the wonder hormone makes life interesting in lots of ways.

Some of us don't think a lot of ourselves but we are clinically depressed and suicidal. Interestingly the number one treatment for depression is exercise. Exercise induces a testosterone rush, testosterone and endorphins. Yay.

On the bright side, men are an endangered gender. Its something to do with a gradual change in the chromosomes for maleness. Soon you will not be bothered by macho attention seekers, but you might have to put up with a vast horde of bitchy androgynous metros and a proliferation of kiters.

I'll be among the grateful dead by then.
Richiefish
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31 Jan 2009 1:07pm
NotWal said...

Susie said...

Do I hold my breath and dive in??? Why not. This thread just proves that IN THE MINDS OF MOST MEN women are not and never will be equal, in every industry, sport and art. Even if their work/ skills/art is equal to or better than those of men.
Or did I just take the bait?


Its probably just the men you hang around with Suze, them and nearly all the others. Like Pweedas' avatar suggests, men have a distorted view of themselves. If they didn't they would never get their ends in. It's down to testosterone. Testosterone the wonder hormone makes life interesting in lots of ways.

Some of us don't think a lot of ourselves but we are clinically depressed and suicidal. Interestingly the number one treatment for depression is exercise. Exercise induces a testosterone rush, testosterone and endorphins. Yay.

On the bright side, men are an endangered gender. Its something to do with a gradual change in the chromosomes for maleness. Soon you will not be bothered by macho attention seekers, but you might have to put up with a vast horde of bitchy androgynous metros and a proliferation of kiters.

I'll be among the grateful dead by then.


you mean Jerry Garcia and the guys ???
sausage
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31 Jan 2009 1:53pm
NotWal said...
.................but you might have to put up with a vast horde of bitchy androgynous metros and a proliferation of kiters.



Notwal,
Is this not a tautology
One and the same from my perspective.
GreenPat
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31 Jan 2009 2:39pm
Sailhack said...

something about newcomers.


Is this person a newcomer? Or someone who, for some reason, doesn't want to use their regular login?

Who can know??????
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