http://debtprison.net/wordpress/47/can-you-go-to-jail-for-not-paying-your-debts/

Just rubbish really. Imprisonment for debt or any other tort stopped a couple of centuries ago. If this wasn't just a sensationalist waste of time topic it would say "Imprisonment for defying court orders" or for "contempt of court" which is, obviously, a different thing.

Very typical posting from PM33

They are arresting and imprisoning people for owing credit card and mortgage debt in Wisconsin and Minnesota. They've been doing it for the past few years.

They've been arresting and jailing men for child support debt and alimony debt for decades, even though every state in the USA prohibits imprisonment for debt in ANY action.

No matter what the courts and lawyers call it, whether "violation of a court order", or "violation of litigant's rights", it is still a CIVIL debt by operation of law. See 42 USC Section 666 of the Federal (US) Child Support Enforcement laws.

Violation of a court order or contempt is irrelevant. It is a method for government to circumvent constitutional prohibitions to violate rights of unsuspecting and unfortunate individuals who cannot pay their debts or support obligations because of involuntary unemployment, underemployment, or disability.

awesome, I'm no law expert, but this is how it has been explained to me (by a notarised freeman)

even in this country for fiduciary matters you come before a magistrate court (and a magistrate not a judge)

which is a commercial court

operating outside the law of australia and its constitution

magistrates court 'acts' upon your legal commercial identity which you were given at birth thanks to your parents when they 'registered' your commercial identity with a birthing (berthing) certificate.

its a facinating conspiracy that readily entraps us from birth where we voluntarily give up our god given rights of freedom from trespass for legal entrapment in servitude and slavery

the trick is to be able to legally seperate yourself from your legal commercial fiction (strawman).

which sounds easy but ain't. keeping in mind the english language was developed as a commercial language, and the 'act' of even turning up or 'presenting' yourself at a magistrates court immediately finds you liable.

theDoctor said...


awesome, I'm no law expert, but ... (some blather) ...

its a facinating conspiracy that readily entraps us from birth where we voluntarily give up our god given rights of freedom from trespass for legal entrapment in servitude and slavery being able to be a bludging ars$hole and take some hardworking bloke's goods and then refusing to pay for them for the right to be honest

... (more meaningless rubbish)...

Fixed it for you doc.

If you really don't want to turn up in a magistrates court, declare yourself bankrupt.

SomeOtherGuy said...
Fascinating. Only bit I missed is the bit where we became part of the USA. Can you point that bit out to me please?

Circa Keating or thereabout ?

pierrec45 said...

SomeOtherGuy said...
Fascinating. Only bit I missed is the bit where we became part of the USA. Can you point that bit out to me please?

Circa Keating or thereabout ?

No, I meant on this planet.