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shi thouse
shi thouse
WA
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WA, 1159 posts
26 May 2011 9:39pm
Maybe I have had my internet head under a pillow, however during a discussion at work the other day it was revealed to me by many, and later by many outside of work(in fact almost all) that the use of internet pirate programs to download movies and music was standard practice.

It occurred to me that either one of the following is true and will occur:
- I need to move more with technological change
- Maybe my local video store will close sooner than I thought
- Maybe I need to increase my monthly internet plan and learn about pirate downloading

I went onto Wikki to learn about these sites and it claimed (assuming it is true) that these sites are some of the most popular web sites in the world with millions of members.

I have always been aware of the pirating situation though have never really looked into it. Then again my interest in doing anything more than look at this site, windsurfing brand sites, ebay and trying to diagnose illnesses have really been the extent of it.

The truth therefore must be that most people do it however very few admit to it. Hence a direct analogy could be the masturbation theory.

So in a sense is paying for things by going through sites like i-Tunes (my to date avenue for obtaining music) merely denying what is going on all around and costing me unnecessary expenditure.

Are copyright companies, movie producers and music makers fighting a losing battle by appealing to peoples better moral judgement? Or is this just technology creating new industries and avenues to free up the world of media.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
27 May 2011 1:32am
Copyright laws are a load of crap in my humble opinion, especially when it comes to technology.

When new science is discovered or revealed, I believe it belongs to the human collective.

Monied people use copyright laws to hold back technology for their own good at the sacrifice of the general good.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
26 May 2011 11:42pm
Welcome to the internet. Everything is free. I cant remember that last time i paid for music and movies .. **** the local video store. good thing i reckon
I think (like the retail sector) experiencing excessive markup on products and music etc.
Win for consumers.
what are they doing about it...open source file sharing..
bringing out 3dtv and iphones and that stupid ****en epic fail called itunes
days are numbered. Copy write is a thing of the past .. Well its not if you choose to purchase stuff like the new ipad etc and are dumb enough do pay for there little niche go ahead.
everything on the internet is free.If its not your an epic fail of a internet user.

Are copyright companies, movie producers and music makers fighting a losing battle by appealing to peoples better moral judgement? Or is this just technology creating new industries and avenues to free up the world of media.


Its a reality check that they have to now be realistically competitive.
i tunes and the ipad iphone applications is a classic example of where developers are heading to box you into there little money making scam.

They deliberately make **** uncompatiable so you have to pay.

hardpole
hardpole
WA
609 posts
WA, 609 posts
27 May 2011 1:04am

It occurred to me that either one of the following is true and will occur:
- I need to move more with technological change
- Maybe my local video store will close sooner than I thought
- Maybe I need to increase my monthly internet plan and learn about pirate downloading

All of these - + Nebbian
Cassa
Cassa
WA
1305 posts
WA, 1305 posts
27 May 2011 6:03am
Human collective= Borg?
knigit
knigit
WA
319 posts
WA, 319 posts
27 May 2011 7:54am
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
7282 posts
WA, 7282 posts
27 May 2011 11:05am
I heard Google / Youtube relased their quarterly figures this week.

Apparently Youtube gets 48 hours of video uploaded every minute and 3 billion views each day.

They said that is equivalent to half the world's population watching a Youtube clip every day.

I thinbk their analysists may have got it wrong. It might just be Petermac33 logging on plus a couple of kids pressing the wrong button.
Gwendy
Gwendy
SA
472 posts
SA, 472 posts
27 May 2011 9:49pm
I remember when cassette players hit the scenes in about mid 70's and copywright laws have been a joke since then. everyone bought vinyl records and taped em for their mates. same thing in the 80's with VHS video. Its been happening ever since, only thing to change is the technology.
For the last 40 years recording and movie companies have been claiming piracy will send them broke yet they continue to go from strength to strength.
While wankers like tom cruise etc are worth 50 million bucks a movie I would have no concience copying their movies for free, should I ever feel the compulsion to watch that product
The internet, the most recent of piracy tool, is also the vehicle that is now launching new talent to stardom and maybe a few middlemen are now missing out. If youtube exposes genuine art at the expence of megga celebrities making millions instead of squillions, I for one will lose no sleep over that.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
27 May 2011 11:05pm
We are in the age of easy distribution of exact copies of digital media. Media organisations have the choice to decide how to deal with this fact.

Personally I think the penalties for copyright violation need to be reviewed. The current penalties are out of line with the offense. $50000 fines and two years in gaol are way out of line with downloading a movie it would cost $20 to watch.

I think something like a $100 fine for downloading a movie or song illegally would be something most would accept, unless the warning is left too late and someone downloads a thousand songs.


The loss of earnings argument is BS. No way would everyone downloading media necessarily buy it if they had to.

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