I pay $38/week to The Council. I estimate they empty a maximum of 90 bins for me per year (combo of rubbish, recycling & green waste). That's costing me $20 per bin emptied! They do stuff all else for me!!

Simondo said...

I pay $38/week to The Council. I estimate they empty a maximum of 90 bins for me per year (combo of rubbish, recycling & green waste). That's costing me $20 per bin emptied! They do stuff all else for me!!

Your paying the same in rates as us!!! You either live in frankston or another council is ripping you off as much as us. Although we get our street swept once a month as well

It's is the fault of you people.

Wash your feet before you go home, else you are just slowly but surely taking all the sand away from the beach to your place.

Lennox Heads beach is a classic example. At the front of Beachfront Apartments there is massive boulder walls. From year to year the sand covers then uncovers at least half the rocks. Better when there's lots of sand on them (less brown snakes)

There are at least six sand mines on the Stockton dunes. What gets trucked off there does not come back. Some got trucked as far as Hawaii to improve their beaches.

(It was not trucked the whole way)

As mentioned - it's a cycle. I've done some work with coastal scientists in regard to planning applications and they struggle to deal with the mentality that 'the ocean is taking away our beaches' which is wide spread in the media & ultimately forced Vic government to apply heavy legislation on any coastal developments. Not to say that some areas aren't prone to erosion, but the red-tape is ridiculous for those areas that show no signs of erosion - just 'bunched' with the worst-case scenarios.

An example - a local beach where a new small development was halted by the council due to 'coastal erosion' has in fact grown 40m toward the ocean in the past 50 years, and has historic aerial photos to prove it. Unfortunately though, there are locals partitioning against the development and trying to influence the decision by showing firstly photos of the beach years ago in the middle of summer, when the sand has been pushed up & vegetation growing...and secondly, in late-winter after a storm-surge where the sand has been 'moved along' with the wind & current as the 'recent' pics.

It's a well known fact that the beach ebbs & tides with the seasons. Not sure of the stats, but in the past 10 years closure of beach access tracks have increased and I wouldn't be surprised that soon we'll all be banned from walking on a beach because it may cause erosion!

Maybe local councils should stick to collecting garbage, running the local library and pool and keeping the roads in good order.

Everything else seems to be expensive, non productive and just costing us heaps.

I agree with you on the 'short-term' erosion-prone areas...the problem is, when the restrictions stretch to areas that aren't prone to erosion & they all get thrown in the same basket.

The one development I was referring to is >100m from the beach, the building envelopes are set behind the crest of the secondary dune (50-60m behind primary dune & swail) and avg 6-8m ht from AHD (sea-level) and on grassy land that was previously stock paddocks. The developers are farmers from several generations of landowners that have photos of the property when their great-grandparents owned the land at the turn of last century which shows small, grassy dunes & views to the ocean, currently the grassy dunes nearly obstruct the views the ocean is 50m or so further away, the land has increased over the past 100 or so years. They got planning permission, paid the fees, constructed the roads...then the council threw a Development Overlay on to the area & all works had to cease. The whole project went from a great idea and use of the land that was going to secure their retirement, to sending the family bankrupt with the bank taking the development & they lost their whole farm.

But I'm sure there are other stories like this due to planning inconsistencies.

Just watch Trigg island surf cam for a year, in winter no sand, in summer miles of the stuff..

safety bay is a great example of the coast moving. when we came in 1969 there was plenty water where your spit is now , I can remember coming home for a visit in the early 90's and wondering where the island came from.
Ive recently seen a chart of warnbo sound by septimus roe(WA's original surveyor) and it shows a massive spit that would have included seal rock , and penquin island and all those rocks to the south.
much of the housing area of safety bay is lakes and lake richmond is the smallest lake in the area