lots of hungry homeless kids here also .

i guess your new avatar really suits you then...


here's to hoping you wake up some day

ofcourse most aid is syphoned off to the real organisations behind front aid agencies... millions of people world wide donate monthly believing they are helping, and tv cameras show us footage of some village getting a new goat, or smiling kids lining up to be vacinated with some sterility inducing concoction.

don't forget condalezza rices' comments about the financial windfall after the boxing day tsunami..

Mobydisc

... Any government that tolerates its own citizens to be mutilated by criminals because they get kickbacks, is disgusting and foul.

lets not point any fingers too far away from our own government (at all levels), the poisoning of us all in places like broken hill, the hunter valley, the illawarra, just to name a few, simply because big business decrees and souless imbociles with their snouts in the trough, believe the benefits of poisoning their own people are for the communities greater good...

shannon8888 said...

lots of hungry homeless kids here also .

Two wrongs don't make a right. Donate some money to both of them.

GypsyDrifter said...

70% of the current cases of diabetes occur in low- and middle income countries.

or in western countries in low socio-economic and poorly educated demographics

With an estimated 50.8 million people living with diabetes,
India has the world's largest diabetes population, followed by China with 43.2 million.

because they have the largest populations to begin with or just coincidence...?

I saw a program on this the other day and it shocked me!!!

I was tricked into watching a mr hands video once, it shocked me

These are thoughts I have daily
IT Does become overwhelming

being overwhelmed is quite different from not giving a sh#$t

theDoctor said...

ofcourse most aid is syphoned off to the real organisations behind front aid agencies... millions of people world wide donate monthly believing they are helping, and tv cameras show us footage of some village getting a new goat, or smiling kids lining up to be vacinated with some sterility inducing concoction.

don't forget condalezza rices' comments about the financial windfall after the boxing day tsunami..

Mobydisc

... Any government that tolerates its own citizens to be mutilated by criminals because they get kickbacks, is disgusting and foul.

lets not point any fingers too far away from our own government (at all levels), the poisoning of us all in places like broken hill, the hunter valley, the illawarra, just to name a few, simply because big business decrees and souless imbociles with their snouts in the trough, believe the benefits of poisoning their own people are for the communities greater good...

You're kidding, right? A worthwhile thread about a serious topic, of people, kids dying in floodwaters and about suggesting we think about helping. And you're trying to turn it into some comment on conspiracies? Are you for real? What, did you imagine that the flood waters were dumped by a passing 747 that got the wrong chemtrail cannister?

Honestly, you are either seriously sick puppy in need professional help or you seriously need to get a life. I really hope it's the former but I can't help suspecting it isn't.

No wonder I spend so little time here any more. This used to be a good forum.

theDoctor said...

...don't forget condalezza rices' comments about the financial windfall after the boxing day tsunami..

Doctor, what did she say?

maxm said...



You're kidding, right? A worthwhile thread about a serious topic, of people, kids dying in floodwaters and about suggesting we think about helping. And you're trying to turn it into some comment on conspiracies? Are you for real? What, did you imagine that the flood waters were dumped by a passing 747 that got the wrong chemtrail cannister?

Honestly, you are either seriously sick puppy in need professional help or you seriously need to get a life. I really hope it's the former but I can't help suspecting it isn't.

No wonder I spend so little time here any more. This used to be a good forum.

WTF...?

i think you maybe in need of some serious help

you hope i'm a sick puppy...?

take your head out your ass

where is my comment on conspiracies...?

you want to know what conspiracies are...?

they are topics ignorant and selfish people wish to give no thought to, because you'd rather have someone tell you how it is.

have you been to north sumatra since the tsunami..?

who won the rebuild tenders for the aceh province in sumatra...?

was it a subsidiary of KBR...? who can fork out near a billion for projects in australias west iron ore fields, but can't manage to rebuild shanty homes that have already been paid for by hard workin and well meaning honest and caring citizens of the world...?

we gave well over a thousand dollars to more than one agency collecting for the tsunami relief, I've been takin advantage of the generosity of the indonesian people and their wave rich region for well over a decade and thought it was the least I could do to help... we decided to follow where our money went, it didn't go far.

all i have stated are facts, take the time to look for yourself.

ignoramus

GypsyDrifter said...
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With an estimated 50.8 million people living with diabetes,
India has the world's largest diabetes population, followed by China with 43.2 million.

?? How can 50.8million people have diabetes, and the country with the second largest diabetes problem have 43.2million people with it...maybe i miss read, but doesn't seem to add up right.

I'm in South America right now (it's early morning), and you know, we're really lucky to live in Australia, it rocks!
God bless Australia, or if you're atheist, may randomness favor Australia.

I hate to see people suffering, but there's just soo many of us that if you throw a 5c coin your going to hit somebody in the eye.

So when it rains somebody's gona get his house/shack flooded... the more we help now, the more will need help in the future and the more pressure we put on a visibly strained ecosystem.

I guess I'm not sure if helping is really helping, or maybe I'm just a self centered selfish tight ass farker.

I'd help if there was an "open source" type charity that created a self sufficient type society... like a real MMO civilization simulation.

Dawn Patrol said...

GypsyDrifter said...
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With an estimated 50.8 million people living with diabetes,
India has the world's largest diabetes population, followed by China with 43.2 million.

?? How can 50.8million people have diabetes, and the country with the second largest diabetes problem have 43.2million people with it...maybe i miss read, but doesn't seem to add up right.

Well all I can tell you from that is, Indian people love sweets + western junk food.
Thats what the doc put it down too.
I am in a western society and I hate junk food...mind you I hate curry too

Dawn Patrol said...

GypsyDrifter said...
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With an estimated 50.8 million people living with diabetes,
India has the world's largest diabetes population, followed by China with 43.2 million.

?? How can 50.8million people have diabetes, and the country with the second largest diabetes problem have 43.2million people with it...maybe i miss read, but doesn't seem to add up right.

population of china 1.3 billion population of india 1.18 billion more people
more health problems more environmental damage ect ect

Elbeau, that was an interesting post showing your kind and generous nature. Some other posters on this thread should try to curb their attention seeking and grandstanding and focus on reality.

maxm said...

theDoctor said...

ofcourse most aid is syphoned off to the real organisations behind front aid agencies... millions of people world wide donate monthly believing they are helping, and tv cameras show us footage of some village getting a new goat, or smiling kids lining up to be vacinated with some sterility inducing concoction.

don't forget condalezza rices' comments about the financial windfall after the boxing day tsunami..

Mobydisc

... Any government that tolerates its own citizens to be mutilated by criminals because they get kickbacks, is disgusting and foul.

lets not point any fingers too far away from our own government (at all levels), the poisoning of us all in places like broken hill, the hunter valley, the illawarra, just to name a few, simply because big business decrees and souless imbociles with their snouts in the trough, believe the benefits of poisoning their own people are for the communities greater good...

You're kidding, right? A worthwhile thread about a serious topic, of people, kids dying in floodwaters and about suggesting we think about helping. And you're trying to turn it into some comment on conspiracies? Are you for real? What, did you imagine that the flood waters were dumped by a passing 747 that got the wrong chemtrail cannister?

Honestly, you are either seriously sick puppy in need professional help or you seriously need to get a life. I really hope it's the former but I can't help suspecting it isn't.

No wonder I spend so little time here any more. This used to be a good forum.

Well Maxm, something appears to have got under your skin!

I reckon the Doctor has raised a point which too many people choose to ignore, that is that is is one of the biggest rorts going.

It is a very sensitive area and Elbeau deserves credit for the post. Tragedies such as Pakistan tear at humanites heart strings and bring out one aspect of the true spirituality in humans, that is to help another in need.

It is also a tragedy though, that aid has become a by product of our system and really only helps very few individuals and keeps the remainder dependant on it whilst we plunder their countries resources and play one side against the other to keep them in a state of perpetual friction and dependancy.

Whilst the copper and the oil coal and the iron or and the diamonds and the palm oil and the sugar and the flowers flow back at a fraction of the cost.

They are forced to buy back maize produced under huge subsidies in the US which is sold below the cost of production putting every famer out of business.

And our governments keep it that way. If you don't believe it then you need to do a bit of reading.

Generosity is good but I am afraid that all but a small fraction ends up in the mouths of the needy.

I see the World Bank ( yo ho) have loaned Pakistan $900 million. That should extract a bit more sweat from the serfs[}:)]

I thought I'd just check: Oxfam claims 85% of funds raised goes into food and basic survival needs, world vision claims 75% of funds raised are used in the same way. But geez what a sorry bunch of bastards you are. Flysurfer purports to be a God botherer then advocates doing nothing because the problem will only get worse and that there are too many of them, a kind of Christian culling. Mobydisc claims that the "Charity industry" is a scam on the evidence of a friends,sisters,twin,monkeys uncle or something. Bustawa is just attention seeking as usual and Petermac33 seizes on the subject of disease and death in Pakistan and piggy backs his own agenda of the CIA overthrowing leaders in Iran and El Salvador on top of it. INCREDIBLE, MAXM I'm right with ya!!