Laptop and wireless networking - can it work?

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Marvin
Marvin
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10 Jun 2010 10:38am
I am looking for a new laptop also - so the Mac advice on the other thread is much appreciated.

Question is - is there a wireless networking connection option that actually works? We have an old Belkin (B/G? - not N) wireless modem with VOIP. The VOIP bit works well but the wireless connections with our PCs are a nightmare - always dropping out, range of 3 metres etc etc. We have given up trying.

Is there a VOIP/wireless capable modem that works with Macs? I'd really like to get free of the wires.
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
10 Jun 2010 12:53pm
I have no dramas wiht networking my Mac at home.
My wife's older PC has a card that won't talk to a new router we have, but it worked fine with the old router that we thought had died. Turns out that was $200 down teh drain because of a password issue too.
superlizard
superlizard
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702 posts
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10 Jun 2010 12:55pm
dunno about this specific modem you mentioned... but i know you shouldn't have any problems with any of the current modems. (try google mac forums)...

my mac connects to my Netgear wireless modem without any issues.. (also VOIP)... in fact when i bring laptop home from work and open it up, it connects automatically by it self... you don't have to do anything... same thing at work, it already knows what the prefered wireless connection is... even configuring for the first time is no issue at all... never had a drop out or issue that was caused by mac. I found Networking setup on Mac 100 times easier than on PC... you hardly have to do much... unlike on PC where you have to setup your TCP config, or reinstall it, and numerous other things... when i bought last mac, it comes with a welcome wizard, and it automatically finds your modem, and just asks you to enter login credentials, and you'r done...

However, i can't really tell you whether you may or may not have configuration issues with some older or specific versions of routers/modems... apple support is very good and friendly (last and only one time i called they even spoke english with non foreign accent)
Gorgo
Gorgo
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5124 posts
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10 Jun 2010 1:32pm
Everything in my house is wireless, even the PC sitting right next to the router. No need for cables at all.

If I'm doing a bug download I will position the laptop or iphone next to the router.
nebbian
nebbian
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6277 posts
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10 Jun 2010 8:14pm
There shouldn't be any problems, my wireless router has heaps of range for my MacBook, iPhone etc.

What I would suggest is, in order of easiest to hardest:

1) Disable the G option. B is a lower frequency so works better through walls.
2) Change the channel of the router. Chances are there is another router nearby on the same channel.
3) Use WPA-PSK or WPA2-PSK, rather than WEP.

All of these require admin access to the router, you may need to plug into it with an ethernet cable and connect to the admin IP address (it will be the same as your 'router' IP address in the network tab of System Preferences).

Hope this helps, report back on how these suggestions work.
Gestalt
Gestalt
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14965 posts
QLD, 14965 posts
10 Jun 2010 10:28pm
in the pc world,

the problem with wireless networks is that old tech doesn't like to talk to new tech and vice versa.

even when dumbing down the security encryption you can still have big issues. like cards dropping out every now and then for no reason..........

you can sometimes get it working but it may take you a day or 2 of pain and then 1-2 months down the track it will fall over again for no reason.

the best advice is to upgrade all of your network devices in one go. across the board.

if you get a new wireles router then buy the matching wirless cards for each device that needs them.

the down side is that this includes the OS... if you upgrade an os you should upgrade all of the other machines on the network......

Mister Dugong
Mister Dugong
368 posts
368 posts
10 Jun 2010 9:25pm
macs talk to every thing,
call it the ..dark side if you willl!!!

mwha hah ha
AquaPlow
AquaPlow
QLD
1066 posts
QLD, 1066 posts
10 Jun 2010 11:27pm
There R 2 main frequencies used.
Older equip' = 802.11 b & g use 20 MHz
Newer equip' = 802.11 n have 20 & 40 MHz options
Generally backward compatible with b & g standard.

The 'n' was designed to over-come short comings with other 2.
These included:
i) better range
ii) stronger signal
iii) better at penetrating walls ( mine have cement and reo in)
iv) the higher frequency avoided interference problems with a number of other common household electrical devices (tv re-transmit - wireless phones etc).

So good advice above (Gestalt) - I keep all my stuff from the same brand - currently D-Link - you may have QOS (Quality of Service) issues with VOIP hogging bandwidth but likely interference or in-compatible.

Having said that the EEEEEEEE-pc my princess wanted and the kids ipods all link in fine.

Suggest using 802.11n = LAN based wireless.
The other side is WAN wireless is good and cheaper than 6 mths back (think Telstra here) - A good source of advice and info is www.whirlpool.net.au

On the interference front from other wireless LAN's in neighbourhood - when you are trying to link your PC / Laptop you do a search for the signal / station SSID - this sniff's the available signals - for you to choose yours from. I have 3 showing in the 20MHz range.
On my display it gives ID and strength - this will allow you to work out if this is the trouble.
Another thing to check - are the aerials on the ADSL box 1) screwed in fully and 2) are they making a good connection (look at signal strength as you move around with laptop)
time 4 bed said zebedy
Mister Dugong
Mister Dugong
368 posts
368 posts
10 Jun 2010 9:37pm
nebbian said...


1) Disable the G option. B is a lower frequency so works better through walls.

end qoute"

ge t yourself a netcomm voip modem slash router with 802.11n protocol...best speed arrangement you can get...with up to 70 meters range
a decent router will be backward compatible with older wireless cards on your computer giving similar backward performance.

as specified by in house computer guru who is qualified far more than me due to being far younger!!!!
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
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10 Jun 2010 10:22pm
AquaPlow said...

There R 2 main frequencies used.
Older equip' = 802.11 b & g use 20 MHz


I think you mean 2.4 GHz... but hey what's a factor of 100 between friends

Also I meant data rate not frequency when talking about disabling G
That'll teach me to type when rushed!
OceanBlue64
OceanBlue64
VIC
980 posts
VIC, 980 posts
11 Jun 2010 8:58am
I only recently connected my partners Macbook to my Windows 7 network (all wireless) through a TP-LINK Modem. I have my PC set up as a data server so we can stream movies to either pc as well as the xbox360. Have no issues streaming to the mac at all.
frant
frant
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1230 posts
VIC, 1230 posts
11 Jun 2010 10:32am
I have a Telstra prepaid USB modem on a laptop which I use infrequently. Credit time limit usually expires so I have to log back in to cash up account. Yesterday I tried and got a modem busy or searching continuous light and no signal strength/service indicated. Telstra hotline helpdesk requires a 3 hour hold for technical help. Any clues what I can do? This was at Barwon Heads and another Telstra wireless service showed plenty of signal strength. From memory a similar thing happened last time that I tried to log on to credit the account. After some dicking around I managed to log on then but can't remember whether it was a systematic solution or random success caused by saying F@#K very loudly.
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