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crusher
crusher
NT
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NT, 104 posts
16 May 2010 2:56pm
How many years or generations does it take to be a ridgy-didge local?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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16 May 2010 1:29pm
It is in inverse proportion to the newcomer's ability to be friendly, ask about the rules, not drop in, and have a beer afterwards without the need to talk about how good they are.

Some people are locals real quick
crusher
crusher
NT
104 posts
NT, 104 posts
16 May 2010 4:26pm
Mark _australia said...

It is in inverse proportion to the newcomer's ability to be friendly, ask about the rules, not drop in, and have a beer afterwards without the need to talk about how good they are.

Some people are locals real quick


Ok fair call its not just how long you been going to or living at a place its how you act!

What about once you have made the cut, does that give you the right to behave like an arse?

Does a so called local have the right to drop in, be unfriendly ect ?

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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16 May 2010 4:29pm
crusher said...

Mark _australia said...

It is in inverse proportion to the newcomer's ability to be friendly, ask about the rules, not drop in, and have a beer afterwards without the need to talk about how good they are.

Some people are locals real quick


Ok fair call its not just how long you been going to or living at a place its how you act!

What about once you have made the cut, does that give you the right to behave like an arse?

Does a so called local have the right to drop in, be unfriendly ect ?




Hmmmm depends on the context. My above post was partly true and partly tongue in cheek.
But anyway, no, locals don't have the right act like arseholes.

Some locals may be inclined to become that way due to the vistors' behaviour. Fair enough a small minority of visitors, but still quite a few don't ask rules, drop in really bad, camp in the carpark and leave rubbish everywhere and so on.
You can only bite your tongue for so long, and once you start giving the tourists an attitude readjustment, pretty soon you are just rude to almost everyone as you get sick of it.
That is pretty sad when it is all about a fun hobby, but it is human behaviour huh.

And really we don't have it as bad (windsurf perspective here) as some surf spots overseas where it is locals first and then a certain number of visitors and you will not be allowed out if there is already 20 out

pooman
pooman
WA
293 posts
WA, 293 posts
16 May 2010 5:21pm
You couldn't be talking about Secret Harbour are you?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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16 May 2010 5:32pm
pooman said...

You couldn't be talking about Secret Harbour are you?


Not me.......
cisco
cisco
QLD
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16 May 2010 10:17pm
crusher said...

How many years or generations does it take to be a ridgy-didge local?


Local to where??

I do believe the idea that one has to have lived in a certain place for a certain amount of time before he/she is afforded respect as a fellow human being is an out moded concept and never had any substance to it in the first place.

Anyone who still adheres to that idea is quite obviously a bigot.

Anyone who feels he/she needs that kind of acceptance, has not a mind of their own.

J.M.O. (Just My Opinion.)

elbeau
elbeau
WA
988 posts
WA, 988 posts
16 May 2010 8:34pm
My Grandad and his brothers fought and died for the right for their families to live in a free country.

Their sacrifice was not to be taken lightly.

I will surf where I choose in this, my country.

In Australia, I am local.

busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
16 May 2010 8:37pm
Learn how to windsurf then you have 100000000kilometres of water to play in not just a a crappy overpopulated break.

when i go to secret scarbrough (im not a local)but i walk down the beach and keep well out the way of other crews.
The locals know each other and are usually on the same break they have a yarn in the water and its not all about catching waves.
I find that i never end up catching a wave cause im too nice!! or just end up catching the smaller ones for fun.

I think on certain reef breaks and point breaks there could be issues where there is 1 break and 100 people

One of my mates at work told me he was with a friend in hawaii and he paddled out to a point break paddles around to the deepest area and caught the set first wave in a line up...this hawiian bloke dropped in on him and he shouted oi.. then he got plummelled into reef and got an arse full of barnicles and when he surfaced this local said"dont oi me" and punched him in the face!!!! He paddles straight back in with a swollen eye and a arse full of barnicles.

I thinks its better to wait and watch a while if you are out with a crew you dont know and then after they have all caught a few waves mabe try one.
Mister Dugong
Mister Dugong
368 posts
368 posts
16 May 2010 8:42pm
what a topic... no wind ..lets banter ..lol!!!

just an observation from experience...
With all the people that come and go and come again and then go and re appears and then go etc
etc
as opposed to those that blow in and go...
(get your mind out of the gutter)

A "local" of a transient 250 locals plus 2500 tourists (read rottnest) informed me that to be a local requires seven years of service.
when you rock in on your tinny every weekend for consecutive winters your only a local at the break
but when you clean dunnys, scrub pots or hand out kicking quokka fines.. whilst sharing the pitiful staff housing with milk crates for wardrobes and cupboards..(seriously) and claim the break as a part of the community.. seven years.
I like it...7
7
say it ....s-e-ven
its a good number for one thats not round,.
generations .... ?? hmmm more beer will get back to yas

cisco
cisco
QLD
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16 May 2010 11:02pm
elbeau said...
I will surf where I choose in this, my country.

In Australia, I am local.


So where did the wave originate and who owns it??

Is this like a surfing thing like dogs pissing on a certain tree or post??? If I smell your piss on my post, I'll tear your throat out!!!

elbeau
elbeau
WA
988 posts
WA, 988 posts
16 May 2010 9:36pm
cisco said...

elbeau said...
I will surf where I choose in this, my country.

In Australia, I am local.


So where did the wave originate and who owns it??

Is this like a surfing thing like dogs pissing on a certain tree or post??? If I smell your piss on my post, I'll tear your throat out!!!




Sorry Cisco.
Obviously I have worded that wrongly. What I meant was, I believe that I and anyone else has the right to surf wherever they like in a free country.
Where ever I go in Australia I am a local.
westhammer
westhammer
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16 May 2010 11:01pm
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westhammer
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16 May 2010 11:32pm
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westhammer
westhammer
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16 May 2010 11:45pm
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