Maldives????? get to see it before it goes

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log man
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11 Jan 2012 2:45pm
Anyone like the Maldives? anyone been there?www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/where-climate-change-threatens-survival-20120108-1pq4c.html
doggie
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11 Jan 2012 11:56am
They have been talking about this for years. Not much more new info on that one.
ADS
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11 Jan 2012 12:16pm
Typical of the Fairfax press.
More alarmist propaganda from the left.

From an expert on Sea Levels and the Maldives:

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf
Mobydisc
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11 Jan 2012 4:00pm
Imagine if a modern human civilization existed about 10,000 years ago in the middle of the last ice age or whenever it was. The ones who wanted to control society would be pushing the tax and spend agenda to save all the islands and coastal areas that were threatened by rising sea levels due to global warming. Meanwhile they would be flying in private jets to attend the latest meeting over rising temperatures.

Islands appear and disappear in the ocean all the time. The rest of the world shouldn't have to change their society and become enslaved to a static climate for the sake of a those who choose or end up living close to the water. Bangladesh is promoted as an example of a country at risk of climate change. Of course any country whose lands consist of a river delta is always at risk of storms and floods.

dinsdale
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11 Jan 2012 2:40pm
ADS said...

Typical of the Fairfax press.
More alarmist propaganda from the left.

From an expert:

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

You're wasting your e-breath. The loony left will never be swayed by (un)common sense, fact, science, research or any other empirical source. Control is their only motive.

log man
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11 Jan 2012 5:41pm
Mobydisc said...

Imagine if a modern human civilization existed about 10,000 years ago in the middle of the last ice age or whenever it was. The ones who wanted to control society would be pushing the tax and spend agenda to save all the islands and coastal areas that were threatened by rising sea levels due to global warming. Meanwhile they would be flying in private jets to attend the latest meeting over rising temperatures.

Islands appear and disappear in the ocean all the time. The rest of the world shouldn't have to change their society and become enslaved to a static climate for the sake of a those who choose or end up living close to the water. Bangladesh is promoted as an example of a country at risk of climate change. Of course any country whose lands consist of a river delta is always at risk of storms and floods.



Yes, it would be terrible to be "enslaved to a static climate", truly awful, nearly as bad as losing your Island, income, future, culture etc all because some plonkers refuse to change the way they make power
log man
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11 Jan 2012 5:42pm
dinsdale said...

ADS said...

Typical of the Fairfax press.
More alarmist propaganda from the left.

From an expert:

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

You're wasting your e-breath. The loony left will never be swayed by (un)common sense, fact, science, research or any other empirical source. Control is their only motive.




IPCC = "loony left" ?
felixdcat
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11 Jan 2012 2:46pm
dinsdale said...

ADS said...

Typical of the Fairfax press.
More alarmist propaganda from the left.

From an expert:

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

You're wasting your e-breath. The loony left will never be swayed by (un)common sense, fact, science, research or any other empirical source. Control is their only motive.




At one point I thought you were talking about the catholic church! But then you missed the keep the peeps ignorant bit!
SailCoothara
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12 Jan 2012 12:10am
Kind of hard to ask 2 billion Indian and Chinese people to change their ways for such islands. Especially when the Western world did exactly the same thing as it developed... Don't get me wrong, it is horrible to see such beautiful places disappear, but the western world alone (i.e. EU, US etc.) will never be able to compete with the industrial growth of developing nations, let alone reverse the effects of sea level rise!
cisco
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12 Jan 2012 12:41am
Maldives????? get to see it before it goes

A typical looney left alarmist attention getter.

@ ADS:- EIR (Executive Intelligence Review) is a very good scource for unbiased information.
dinsdale
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11 Jan 2012 10:45pm
log man said...
IPCC = "loony left" ?

Absolutely!!

pierrec45
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12 Jan 2012 2:13am
ADS said...

Typical of the Fairfax press.
More alarmist propaganda from the left.

From an expert on Sea Levels and the Maldives:

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

Don't even know if you're serious. He is not the expert, he is only one of many researchers in the field. He is highly controversial, and has a truckload of other academicians against his case in this tenet about levels not rising. Anyone who starts an article with a self-proclaimed statement "There's no one who's beaten me" shoulda rung the alarm bell... He basically is hanging on to his 1970 theory - his own word - in spite of tons of contradicting calibrated records and observations ever since.
FlySurfer
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12 Jan 2012 10:42am
doggie said...

They have been talking about this for years. Not much more new info on that one.


My wife and I booked a holiday there in 1999 it was supposed to only have 5 years left... 13 years on and there's more of them than before.

But the climate is changing, last night I froze my ass off! January in Sydney burbs... fark.
evlPanda
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12 Jan 2012 10:45am
Mobydisc said...

Imagine if a modern human civilization existed about 10,000 years ago in the middle of the last ice age or whenever it was. The ones who wanted to control society


groan

...would be pushing the tax and spend agenda to save all the islands and coastal areas that were threatened by rising sea levels due to global warming. Meanwhile they would be flying in private jets to attend the latest meeting over rising temperatures.


A laden jet at cruising speed and altitude is amongst the most fuel efficient forms of transport. That's why you can fly from Melbourne to the Gold Coast for $80.


Islands appear and disappear in the ocean all the time. The rest of the world shouldn't have to change their society and become enslaved


groan

...to a static climate for the sake of a those who choose or end up living close to the water.


Um... that'd be us?


Bangladesh is promoted as an example of a country at risk of climate change. Of course any country whose lands consist of a river delta is always at risk of storms and floods.


But yeah, land masses do rise and sink irrelevant to the overall sea level.
ADS
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12 Jan 2012 8:20am

Always play the man not the ball?
Did you even read the article or just do a Wiki search on him to find some ammo?
What part(s) of the interview can you proove are inaccurate?
Carry-on



pierrec45 said...

ADS said...

Typical of the Fairfax press.
More alarmist propaganda from the left.

From an expert on Sea Levels and the Maldives:

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

Don't even know if you're serious. He is not the expert, he is only one of many researchers in the field. He is highly controversial, and has a truckload of other academicians against his case in this tenet about levels not rising. Anyone who starts an article with a self-proclaimed statement "There's no one who's beaten me" shoulda rung the alarm bell... He basically is hanging on to his 1970 theory - his own word - in spite of tons of contradicting calibrated records and observations ever since.


doggie
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12 Jan 2012 8:44am
FlySurfer said...

doggie said...

They have been talking about this for years. Not much more new info on that one.


My wife and I booked a holiday there in 1999 it was supposed to only have 5 years left... 13 years on and there's more of them than before.

But the climate is changing, last night I froze my ass off! January in Sydney burbs... fark.


I think its a quick fix up for their economy, better have a holiday before it disapears. Hoax
log man
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12 Jan 2012 1:35pm
dinsdale said...

log man said...
IPCC = "loony left" ?

Absolutely!!




just for the sake of argument and some ground rules: Dinsy, can you tell me, are all of these organisations "loony left"?????.....
CSIRO
Australian Academy of Science
National Academy of Science(NRA)US
NASA
IPCC[
British conservative party
Liberal/national party coalition(AUS)
Academies of science from China,Canada,Germany,Japan,etc,etc
pierrec45
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13 Jan 2012 1:40am
ADS said...


Always play the man not the ball?
Did you even read the article or just do a Wiki search on him to find some ammo?
What part(s) of the interview can you proove are inaccurate?
Carry-on



pierrec45 said...

ADS said...

Typical of the Fairfax press.
More alarmist propaganda from the left.

From an expert on Sea Levels and the Maldives:

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

Don't even know if you're serious. He is not the expert, he is only one of many researchers in the field. He is highly controversial, and has a truckload of other academicians against his case in this tenet about levels not rising. Anyone who starts an article with a self-proclaimed statement "There's no one who's beaten me" shoulda rung the alarm bell... He basically is hanging on to his 1970 theory - his own word - in spite of tons of contradicting calibrated records and observations ever since.




Did both. Knew there was something wrong from the start, never read about someone claiming he's the best like that, except Martin Sheen on sex during a recent interview. Also suspicious of those who ascribe left-ness and right-ness to these arguments. Otherwise perhaps I would just have swallowed his stuff and not googled him.

From wiki, you can google in general - do it. From the talk page too, you have links to articles that greatly disagree. If you keep googling those, all the disagreers (?) have similar unis jobs and degrees, just that they're very, very numerous.

In short, whilst you and himself claim he's the expert, you'll have to convince, it seems, very many people in the field that he really is. Apparently the expert has had 40 years to do so and has failed so far.
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