Using only eskys and cling wrap a man has single-handedly disproved the greenhouse effect in an afternoon. Nobel prize on its way.

www.webcitation.org/69NuLN7BK

200 years of science disproved just like that. Those scientists are so stupid.

Was his name Peter?

"Climate Change" is one thing, "Greenhouse Effect" is another. Climate change is clearly real. Whether greenhouse effect is real or human created I don't really worry about, because I think that releasing billions of tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere is probably ill-advised, at least until we can be sure about its effect.

And, based on some bloke's report on cling wrap and some eskys, I'm still not 100% sure...

Answer me this, because my head hurts.

A) Do people really think that during 200 years of scientific research the above experiment was never considered? Really? How.can.people.think.this?

B) Why does no-one know how it works when it a very, very popular topic?

The experiment above is not how the greenhouse effect works at all. Not at all. It's not about whether CO2 absorbs or contains heat. The hint about how it actually works is in its ****ing name!; it works like a greenhouse. There's a layer way up there, in the cold upper atmosphere that reflects the heat back. If anything it was the glad wrap in the experiment was creating a greenhouse effect, but it was on both eskys.

Greenhouse effect: It's what keeps the earth warm. It does really truly exist. It works the same way a greenhouse does. You accept greenhouses exist, right?

tmurray said...

My main 2 issues
1. they painted the inside of the esky with heat absorbing black paint, the results might have been different had the inner surfaces been more neutral, or even reflective (like say an ocean)
2. they measured the ability of the 2 systems to gain heat, not whether the high carbon dioxide esky would RETAIN heat once the sun set

It's about a greenhouse effect, not whether a gas retains heat. That's not how greenhouses work.

Anyone feel like replicating this over a few different test conditions. I can't be assed, but I might if I had kids.

Sure, but I'll do a much better experiment:

I'll leave my car in the sun and see if it gets hotter inside.

That is kinda how the greenhouse effect works, more than kinda even. CO2 in the upper atmosphere, along with other greenhouse gases and ****, let heat radiation in one way, but not out the other way. If you don't believe that is possible go leave your car out in the sun. Glass lets radiation of one wavelength in, where it gets absorbed into your lovely black leather seats, and then radiated out at another wavelength which the glass no longer lets through. like a greenhouse.

This guy's experiment was bunk.
He's also a LNP member advocating for Climate Change to removed from the school curriculum in QLD, lest it poison our childs' minds with propaganda from false prophets.

evlPanda said...
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That is kinda how the greenhouse effect works, more than kinda even. CO2 in the upper atmosphere, along with other greenhouse gases and ****, let heat radiation in one way, but not out the other way. If you don't believe that is possible go leave your car out in the sun. Glass lets radiation of one wavelength in, where it gets absorbed into your lovely black leather seats, and then radiated out at another wavelength which the glass no longer lets through. like a greenhouse.

This guy's experiment was bunk.
He's also a LNP member advocating for Climate Change to removed from the school curriculum in QLD, lest it poison our childs' minds with propaganda from false prophets.

So, how do you know it is the CO2 that is the reason heat is retained? Could it be the water vapor?

I have noticed that when there is a clear sky on a winter morning, it is freezing! When there is plenty of cloud cover, it is not as cold. What happened to the CO2 to make it cold? Did it take a holiday?

I personally have no idea if CO2 works like this, but your suggestion of 'the greenhouse effect works because it is called the greenhouse effect' is at least as much bunkum.

What other gasses create this greenhouse effect? What percentage are each of these gasses, and what is its relative impact?

I am sure there have been plenty of things in science where people have believed one thing, because everyone else did, until someone came along and demonstrated that it may not be. Just because a lot of people believe something, doesn't make it true.

If we went back to a time where there was only plant material, under the assumption that they consumed CO2 and released Oxygen, would there have been a much smaller level of CO2 in the atmosphere? Was the Earth much colder then?

Stuthepirate said...

CMC said...

...I don't know why people think that just because we can buy stuff and drive remote control cat helicopters or look at porn on handheld devices we are so clever that we can control the planet........ We can't now despite our brilliance.

I am not a sceptic, I'm a true believer in Climate change.....

fixed it for you