Middies and Schooners

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nebbian
nebbian
WA
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WA, 6277 posts
29 Nov 2008 6:51pm
This is something that really gets my goat.

Why can't the various states agree on a set of measures for something as fundamental as drinking beer?

Last Friday I go into a pub and order a schooner, not really sure if he knew what I was talking about... he hands me this tiny little pitiful excuse for a beer! So then I asked him to turn it into a pint. But a pint feels bigger than a normal beer.

So off to the internet I go, and get this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pint

The pint glass in pubs in Australia (which is so called) remains closer to the standard Imperial pint, at 570 ml. A pint of beer in Australia or New Zealand is 570 ml, except in South Australia where a pint is 425 ml and 570 ml is called an imperial pint.


Now compare it to this:

New South Wales: Glass 200 ml; Middie 285 ml; Schooner 425 ml.
Victoria: Glass 200 ml; Pot 285 ml.
Tasmania: Seven - 200 ml; Ten - 285 ml; Pint 425 ml.
Queensland: Glass 200 ml; Pot 285 ml; Schooner 425ml.
South Australia: Pony 142 ml; Butcher 200 ml; Schooner 285 ml; Pint - 425 ml.
Western Australia: Bobby - 200 ml; Glass - 285 ml; Pot - 425 ml.
Northern Territory: Six - 200 ml; Seven 285 ml; Handle 425 ml.


WTF? I just want a schooner dammit! 425 ml. The way god intended beer to be drunk. You cockroaches don't know how lucky you've got it.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
29 Nov 2008 7:58pm
for me it's a pint or it's nothing.
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
29 Nov 2008 7:05pm
nebbian said...
Western Australia: Bobby - 200 ml; Glass - 285 ml; Pot - 425 ml.


This must be a different Western Australia to the one I live in.

In WA it is Middies or Pints.
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
29 Nov 2008 9:39pm
Yep, first time in a Vic pub, conversation with barman goes:
- "I'll have a 10 thanks"
- "sorry, 10 what"
- "no, just 1"
- "1 what?"
- "1 10"
- "what?"
- "I'd like 1 10 ounce please"
-"what? a 10 ounce what?"
- "a 10 ounce beer" (pointing to wanted item in glass rack"
- "oh, you'd like a pot"
- (thinking a pot must be a jug) "nah, just a 10 ounce thanks"
- "that's a pot" (holding one up)
- "just fill the bloody thing with beer and give it to me"
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
29 Nov 2008 9:10pm
nebbian said...




Tasmania: Seven - 200 ml; Ten - 285 ml; Pint 425 ml.


Nope... A pint is a pint in Tassie - 570 ml... You can biy schooners in some trendy watering holes in Tassie too...

My experience in WA - mid/small = 285 ml, pint/large = 570 ml... Must admit, after a few I still (sometimes) ask for a 10 ounce, and this is met with a stange look in all places but Tas

elmo
elmo
WA
8894 posts
WA, 8894 posts
29 Nov 2008 9:32pm
Oh harden up and stop your whining

You try and order a soda water in a pub
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
29 Nov 2008 11:24pm
just order a jug! unless you're alone net nerds.
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
30 Nov 2008 12:01am
greenleader said...

just order a jug! unless you're alone net nerds.


...or even if you are alone
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
30 Nov 2008 10:37am
nebbian said...


WTF? I just want a schooner dammit! 425 ml. The way god intended beer to be drunk. You cockroaches don't know how lucky you've got it.


I am one cockroach who appreciates how lucky I am. I can buy a schooner for $3.25 at my local RSL club. A schooner is the right size for a beer. You don't have to skull it down for it to still be cold at the end. Two schooners is the right amount of beer to feel great. Your appetite increases and going to the pub or club becomes a eating and drinking experience.

The pubs in Perth disappointed me. You either bought tiny little glasses of beer that were not satisfying or you bought big pints. One pint isn't enough and two pints is too much unless you plan to get drunk! Plus they cost about $9 or $10 each. I guess if I was smart I could have bought a big glass then a little glass of beer.

Many people complain about pokies. However you compare the dingy little RSL halls in WA to the RSL and other registered clubs in NSW. They are great places to have a meal, some drink, watch a show and are family friendly. There is nothing in WA like them.

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23688 posts
WA, 23688 posts
30 Nov 2008 8:56am
I don't care if they call it a schooner it is still not sailing.


hills
hills
SA
1622 posts
SA, 1622 posts
30 Nov 2008 10:36am
I went into a pub interstate, Canberra I think, and asked for a pint and he said "a pint of what, Milk?"
BundyBear
BundyBear
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
30 Nov 2008 12:42pm
I usualy don't have a problem, just ask for a schooner and they all know what your talking about, with the big exception of victoria where they know what your asking but refuse to aknowledge it
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
30 Nov 2008 11:00pm
easty said...

Yep, first time in a Vic pub, conversation with barman goes:
- "I'll have a 10 thanks"
- "sorry, 10 what"
- "no, just 1"
- "1 what?"
- "1 10"
- "what?"
- "I'd like 1 10 ounce please"
-"what? a 10 ounce what?"
- "a 10 ounce beer" (pointing to wanted item in glass rack"
- "oh, you'd like a pot"
- (thinking a pot must be a jug) "nah, just a 10 ounce thanks"
- "that's a pot" (holding one up)
- "just fill the bloody thing with beer and give it to me"



Ha-ha......that's just our local barman's sense of humour.....we just love to take the p*ss out of you foreigners!

I remember going to Adelaide when I was 18 and asking for a "pot", and got a "pint" (deaf barmaid, I'm guessing)...anyways, I thought my hand had shrunk!

Lately the 'pint' has become very popular in Vic. it's always been just pots, and glasses (or thimbles), but the likes of Coopers, Guinness, and Kilkenny has brought in the bigun's! Not complaining mind...

Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
1 Dec 2008 10:35am
and what about the trendy bars that have 9 0z pots !!!! I thought they had made that kind of deception illegal ?
Zed
Zed
WA
1274 posts
Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
1 Dec 2008 11:31am
People still drink out of middies and schooners? Seems to be pints all the way in WA.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
1 Dec 2008 1:46pm
Yep - I reckon Schooners are the go. Unfortunately here in the West a Schoony will get woarm too quick (or encourage hasty drinking) so a middy is the go.

Oh - HTFU buddy - the glass is half (hic) full!
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
1 Dec 2008 3:25pm
Was it Rosy O'Gradies that started pints in WA? Can anybody remember the year?

It seemed to go from either a "glass" or a "middy" to the new defacto pint but can't remember when?
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
1 Dec 2008 3:56pm
Don't know, but if it was that would be quite a coincidence. Was there on Saturday playing pub golf and the scorecard had a schooner of Guinness on it for that pub, par 3. Not being able to purchase a schooner the course was altered to a pint, par 4, and the East-coaster responsible for drawing up the scorecard chastised for lack of local course knowledge.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
1 Dec 2008 5:02pm
When in Adelaide last I asked for a pot and got something completely different.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
1 Dec 2008 5:33pm
^^^^....what, respect...?
noels
noels
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
1 Dec 2008 4:11pm
why don't you just drink cans??
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
1 Dec 2008 4:27pm
evlPanda said...

When in Adelaide last I asked for a pot and got something completely different.


Never ask for directions to the bank in Snowtown!

Ummm... think the Matilda Bay mob with there gross beers were ahead but possibly Fenians was 1st?

I know that the Harbourside in Freo was serving pints circa 91' as I still have a couple in my cupboard!
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
1 Dec 2008 7:46pm
easty said...

Yep, first time in a Vic pub, conversation with barman goes:
- "I'll have a 10 thanks"
- "sorry, 10 what"
- "no, just 1"
- "1 what?"
- "1 10"
- "what?"
- "I'd like 1 10 ounce please"
-"what? a 10 ounce what?"
- "a 10 ounce beer" (pointing to wanted item in glass rack"
- "oh, you'd like a pot"
- (thinking a pot must be a jug) "nah, just a 10 ounce thanks"
- "that's a pot" (holding one up)
- "just fill the bloody thing with beer and give it to me"



LMAO
MavericK040
MavericK040
WA
583 posts
WA, 583 posts
1 Dec 2008 8:49pm
noels said...

why don't you just drink cans??


Beer from a can ???
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