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ka43
ka43
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11 Jun 2008 4:56pm
Advice needed.
My daughter is in the Australian Girls Choir. Every couple of weeks they have to travel quite a distance to a venue for an entire practise leading up to concerts at the Opera House.
Whilst picking her up from weekly practise I was accosted by another girls dad who turned out to be her step-dad. Anyway he asked if I could pick up this girl from the venue, drive her home and drop her off at their place. I was a bit taken aback so I agreed.
2 trips of over an hour each way and no thank you's etc. I thought, bugger it, Im doing the right thing. This keeps happening, I get a vague call on my mobile saying as long as Im going out there can I bring this girl home.
The thing is I got a call from the girls mum asking what her slack husband was doing asking me to do the favour. I didnt know what to say.
Then today I get another phone call, (I didnt answer) asking if I can pick this kid up tomorrow night, Thursday, and bring her home.
Im getting a bit jack of it. If it wasnt for my daughters sake I would tell this bloke where to go. My wife says this bloke is becoming a habitual bludger.
I still dont know why he cant do it.
So what do you reckon?
Tell him to bugger off, make up an excuse etc.
Any serious suggestions considered.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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11 Jun 2008 5:22pm
You are scared to say something to him (normal). What would you do if you weren't scared? Do that.

You should be taking turns, of course.
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
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11 Jun 2008 3:40pm
Tell him yes, then "forget" to pick up his girl.
Then he will end up dealing with an angry teenager
elmo
elmo
WA
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11 Jun 2008 4:02pm
Sounds like he's trying to save his fuel bill or is just taking advantage of the situation.

If it keeps happening then unfortunately you may have to have a prior commitment which will take priority on your time.

Don't forget it may also have a detrimental effect on your daughter, if it is night time and your daughter is still a student then the extra travel time it is also disrupting her study/ recreation/ rest time.
MikeyS
MikeyS
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11 Jun 2008 6:20pm
Do you trust him to pick up your daughter as well? And do you owe this guy anything? If the answers are YES nad NO respectively, first ask him whether he would be prepared to share the driving, and if not, why not. Until you ask, you don't know why he can't reciprocate. He might be too busy visiting his other kid in hospital with cancer. Or he might just be a slackarse.

Then do what evlPanda says. If you do trust him, tell him what an acceptable arrangement would be to you, 'cos obviouosly the current situation ain't going to work.

Don't play games, don't be a wuss. Deal with it like you're in control and you'll feel better for it.

stribo
stribo
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11 Jun 2008 6:22pm
Dawn patrol hit the nail on the head.
As for taking turns ...hmmm would you trust him to get your daughter there on time or even home....i know i wouldn't..
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
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11 Jun 2008 9:49pm
ka43 said...

Advice needed.
My daughter is in the Australian Girls Choir. Every couple of weeks they have to travel quite a distance to a venue for an entire practise leading up to concerts at the Opera House.
Whilst picking her up from weekly practise I was accosted by another girls dad who turned out to be her step-dad. Anyway he asked if I could pick up this girl from the venue, drive her home and drop her off at their place. I was a bit taken aback so I agreed.
2 trips of over an hour each way and no thank you's etc. I thought, bugger it, Im doing the right thing. This keeps happening, I get a vague call on my mobile saying as long as Im going out there can I bring this girl home.
The thing is I got a call from the girls mum asking what her slack husband was doing asking me to do the favour. I didnt know what to say.
Then today I get another phone call, (I didnt answer) asking if I can pick this kid up tomorrow night, Thursday, and bring her home.
Im getting a bit jack of it. If it wasnt for my daughters sake I would tell this bloke where to go. My wife says this bloke is becoming a habitual bludger.
I still dont know why he cant do it.
So what do you reckon?
Tell him to bugger off, make up an excuse etc.
Any serious suggestions considered.


Easy, tell him couple times was OK, but think he should be available and will need to either meet you some place or come to your place to get her, as you haven't time running her about.
You win, both ways, you save fuel bill, your Daughter has her friend over for a while cos it was Dads idea or at least gets to share the trip with her.
If he gets testy, then its "mate, you want me to help you out as a favour, or you just bludging on my good nature" response from you.
He has too either agree to your recommendation, or look like a proper drop kick.
You can lead in by telling his wife prior of your intending plan.

Sailhack
Sailhack
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12 Jun 2008 12:26am
You probably want to first discuss this 'setup' with all parties concerned, especially his wife or yours at least, (everyone except the 'LAZY S.O.B Stepdad'.)

Next time he asks, tell him "No worries, I'm actually becoming quite fond of her.....she's a very pretty girl!" If he doesn't jump in the car to pick her up, and call the cops, or worse...he's a waste of space!

As I said....this is a 'setup', you might need to put some thought into how to protect yourself if he goes apes#%t! If he has any parental instincts, this should give him a scare....(hopefully).

BTW, I wouldn't allow my kids into a car with a stranger, for fear of car accidents, or worse, even to carpool, I'd want to know the person in charge of the vehicle, and my kids' life pretty well.......this guy is either a thoughtless prick who doesn't give a rats' about his stepdaughter, or he's bludging off you.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23695 posts
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11 Jun 2008 10:27pm
If all else fails, tell him you think she is pretty
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23695 posts
WA, 23695 posts
11 Jun 2008 10:28pm
Sailhack... same thought at the same time!!!
BigFatMick
BigFatMick
273 posts
273 posts
11 Jun 2008 10:33pm
Is he too busy because his bong needs packing?
Is he worried about driving because he lost his license for 10 years after blowing 0.18 for the third time?
Does he detest his daughter so much that any time apart is a relief?

What's this guys malfunction?

And why should you be his bitch?

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accosted
": to approach and speak to often in a challenging or aggressive way"
Are you serious?


Take all the advice from above posts (maybe not Sailhacks', not without backup) and then borrow his mower, and drill, and leaf-blower, and ladder... screw it, fill ya shed with his stuff... show him what bludging is really about.
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
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12 Jun 2008 8:42am
generous people often get exploited. Tell him (with a smile on your face) "bout your turn to drive isnt it mate?"
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
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12 Jun 2008 10:09am
Richiefish said...

generous people often get exploited. Tell him (with a smile on your face) "bout your turn to drive isnt it mate?"


Good idea, but I'd still be picking up my own daughter! I wouldn't trust this guy, (or any stranger for that matter) with your daughter's life.....

cwamit
cwamit
WA
1194 posts
WA, 1194 posts
12 Jun 2008 8:56am
Na don’t go trying to say anything about his daughter, instead - touch his ass and say.. “so want to be f**k buddies”!

Wineman
Wineman
NSW
1412 posts
NSW, 1412 posts
12 Jun 2008 11:06am

I think it's worth a case of VB per trip

He sounds like a VB drinker

Then you can go thru the fun of giving away a case of VB....again

Think of all the good karma..........we may even get some wind in Sydney.

C'mon Larko.....take one for the team
ka43
ka43
NSW
3105 posts
NSW, 3105 posts
12 Jun 2008 11:58am
Thanks everyone for the tips and thoughts.
Dont worry, I have no problem saying what I think
And anything else that arises from confrontation.[}:)]

A couple of points........
Wife and I both said straight away we dont want him picking our daughter up.
He is pretty much a slack arse, conceded by his missus.
My daughter and I enjoy our time chatting on the drives.
Complete strangers until lifts were needed.
Have discussed with daughter and she is cool with what I decide.
Have rung and told him he needs to pick her up himself.
We see him every Monday night for local practise and he has never said a word of thanks or greeting.
I think the thing that pissed me off was the fact neither parent offered to swap,
have never thanked us and seem to expect the favour.
I dont mind doing the right thing seeing as I would be going out there anyway but as most of you said, fair's fair.
The thing that DOES bother me is I might get to the venue and the poor kid says my step dad cant make it and can you take me home.
This opens up a whole can of problems as we see it.
Will comment after tonight.
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
12 Jun 2008 1:59pm
cwamit said...

Na don’t go trying to say anything about his daughter, instead - touch his ass and say.. “so want to be f**k buddies”!




Problem with this is he might say yes!
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
12 Jun 2008 5:36pm
Tell him to stop shaggin his sexretary and go pick his kid up!! What a bludging tosser!

Alternatively, forget to pick his kid up and also ring his missus saying "Oh I'm sorry I just had another call from a woman looking for him and mistakenly thought it was you... er.. this is awkward..."

I imagine this stone would get killed by two birds...
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
12 Jun 2008 7:48pm
Just tell him you've only got enough petrol to get home and you left your wallet at home.

Or just tell him the truth and get it over with. Tell him you need some moolah to make it worth your while coz he ain't gonna give you any thanks. Thats reasonable enough in this day and age of high fuel prices.

I just think back to when I was a kid and my parents ferried my friends and I around. Looking back it must have been a drag but I don't think any of my friends' parents were real slackarses like this bloke.


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