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oliver
oliver
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7 May 2011 5:23pm
When I was in my teens and early 20's I wanted to be like Sid Vicious and be dead before my 40's of something really shocking to my parents - like a heroin overdose.

I'm now 47 and don't want to die until at least 70. I'm not sure why - but dying in my 60s sounds dull.

I'm not scared of dying - I've done most things I want to in life - in fact, I'd be content if someone told me this was my last day on earth.

I'm so over working a meaningless day job, teenagers and a whining wife. So I've decided, I'm going to buy me a VW Transporter and do it all up with LED lights with black synthetic material on the roof and walls complete with at least two IPads - one on the ceiling and the other one somewhere else. I want a really comfy bed, and lots of other modern sh1t - I'm talking pimp my ride, sandman 2010 style. I'm going to drive this beast all over the place like the grey nomad that I'm reluctantly turning into and piss off to Johannna or wherever for whatever.

I started looking up what I should buy. New or used. You can buy a cleanskin or you can buy one already done up. Being a bit of a cheap-scate I thought I'd look up buying a second hand one - one already done up. Sure, I'd just replace the creamed on mattress. But there were all these depressing ads along the lines of "for sale - unfinished project - selling due to stroke"

I don't know where this post is going.

Has anyone else got some random half baked ideas they want to share?


hamburglar
hamburglar
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7 May 2011 7:31pm
i want to be a rock star so iv'e been drinking heaps of piss and taken lots of drugs got that part done pat.....just got to get them guitar lessons
FormulaNova
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7 May 2011 7:13pm
Yeah here's a half baked idea -

leave the teenagers and possibly the wife at home and go windsurfing in Maui

If that doesn't sound good, go to Mauritius

If neither of them sound like a good idea, give me the money and I will go and tell you how good it was.

(If you want something quicker, go to Lord Howe for a couple of weeks. Take the wife for that one though, as someone needs to go get you a hamburger and a coke when you come in for lunch)
oliver
oliver
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7 May 2011 7:18pm
Maui sounds real good - I went there last year, I'm going to spend a bit of my pacific peso there later this year on a road trip around L.A/San Fran.

I was going to write all this other stuff about death and dying but ran out of breath and couldn't be fagged.
ok
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7 May 2011 9:24pm
buy a bright red racing car!

Simondo
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7 May 2011 9:34pm
Post some links of the Van's you have liked... New and 2nd hand....
FlickySpinny
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7 May 2011 8:52pm
T4 and T5 vans - the best place to get some good ideas is the ebay.co.uk - there's a loads of modified ones on there.

Ten seconds on there came up with the following. There's some much better ones on there though for inspiration.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-VOLKSWAGEN-TRANSPORTER-T4-TDI-SWB-BLACK-/150600199347?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item231078acb3

cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLKSWAGEN-TRANSPORTER-CARAVELLE-WHITE-T4-Surf-Day-van-/150600377105?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item23107b6311
latedropeddy
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7 May 2011 11:44pm
Another way to look at it is that you might be helping someone out by buying their pimped van because they have had unexpected medical issues. They may need the cash!

I remember the missus and I where on tour in the NT when the GFC went down and fuel prices were high. There were so many Nomads camping on ovals (one place in particular the "dump point" where you empty your turds from the campervan) because they couldn't afford to move because their super got slashed and they could'nt afford to drive.

Your a long time dead so good on you for making the most of it I reckon.
oliver
oliver
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7 May 2011 10:58pm
You make a good point there. The price of oil is really high again.

Maybe I should be thinking about lurking around caravan parks or ovals in the outback to save some bucks. I could make friends with some oldies who have a fully decked out Transporter and are stuck there cause they either can't afford the diesel to get out, or are suffering from health complications and in need of some quick cash. When it comes to doing the deal I'd go in hard - but not enough to be featured on Today Tonight. It really sounds like a win win.

I'd have to check out their van thoroughly - racv checks and stuff - but if it all checks out I'd just chuck their creamed mattress, their boring slim dusty CD's, spray the inside with disinfectant or mortein and bobs your uncle.
Radmac
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7 May 2011 11:07pm
30 years ago bought an old Toyo hiace bongo van 12R engine.Next weekend got a local chippie to fit out a camper using chipboard. Painted itnext weekend and was off the weekend after.

Sound like you are looking for excuses,

Buy a fitted van and go.
GypsyDrifter
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8 May 2011 12:51am
oliver said...


I'm now 47 !
I'm going to buy me a VW Transporter and do it all up with LED lights with black synthetic material on the roof and walls complete with at least two IPads


Well Just do it!

You have one life, if myself or my betterhalf. wants to do something we just do it.

You have the goal, just make your plan and make it happen.

Maybe you are going through your, "I am neither young or old" stage
Tux
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8 May 2011 9:34am
Go surfing...it will make you feel less like a fat old ****...at least until you next look in the mirror
japie
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8 May 2011 11:09am
Buy a copy of Annie Hill's Voyaging on a Low Income.

She and her partner live off $60/week and have travelled to places you and I can only dream about. Whilst a lot of their destinations are a trifle too chilly for my liking, (Iceland and the Falklands) I would direct my boat toward warm and windy destinations.

You can pick up a very nice steel hulled 30 foot yacht for $60k, invest the rest in government bonds and set yourself free!

I know of a lecherous old kiwi bastard that travels the Antipodean coast with female crew selected from the backpacking community. This may not be to your liking but it does have a certain allure!
FlySurfer
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8 May 2011 12:04pm
Buy a bike like


or



Then get yourself a tent, GPS, and start heading north until it gets really cold.
You could take a camera and laptop to make regular post... call it "the long way up"
If you want company, just hang around advrider.com for a couple months, you're sure to find someone.
GypsyDrifter
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8 May 2011 10:08am
japie said...

Buy a copy of Annie Hill's Voyaging on a Low Income.



I had a look on Amazon for this book and it is $210
is this right japie
Gorgo
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8 May 2011 12:58pm
A bit more googling shows the book at $24.95.

Most public libraries will get the book in for you if you put in a request. It costs $13.20 at my local. They'll track it down from another library or buy a copy.

Just my two cents on happiness...

Happiness is a transitory state. People who are continually happy are insane, deluded or on drugs (or all of the above.)

What is necessary is to enjoy the happy times, feel good about the generally contented times, and tolerate the bad times with as much good humour as you can muster.

Buying a motorbike/van/boat/tattoo/thai contortionist expecting it to make you happy is doomed to failure. No matter what thing you have the continuing cycle of happy/contented/grumpy/angry will continue.

If you can develop the thought patterns and attitudes that let you be at peace with yourself then you can choose to do whatever you want and enjoy happiness doing it.

If you can't develop those thought patterns then you will be a miserable sh.t no matter what is happening in your life.

Peace out love children.
FlySurfer
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8 May 2011 1:10pm
Gorgo said...
Buying a motorbike/van/boat/tattoo/thai contortionist expecting it to make you happy is doomed to failure. No matter what thing you have the continuing cycle of happy/contented/grumpy/angry will continue.

If you can develop the thought patterns and attitudes that let you be at peace with yourself then you can choose to do whatever you want and enjoy happiness doing it.

Yes and no... people can get stuck in an undesirable pattern, sometimes without even knowing it. If they have something to take them out of that pattern, things can markedly change.

So taking a van on a 1yr road trip is going to change you.

GalahOnTheBay
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8 May 2011 5:16pm
^^^ +1

It's easy to say that people should be happy, but try being happy when you are depressed

If you feel like you need a kickstart to get things heading in the right direction, assuming your actions are not going to be too far out there, I would say go for it!

The transporter sounds neat - something interesting and useful - so why not?

PS: Not saying Oliver is depressed, but you get my drift I hope
PPS:

japie
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8 May 2011 6:35pm
GypsyDrifter said...

japie said...

Buy a copy of Annie Hill's Voyaging on a Low Income.



I had a look on Amazon for this book and it is $210
is this right japie



No way. I bought two copies at different times. I did stuff the title up though, it is Voyaging on a small income. I did not pay more than $35. It is soft back with mostly black and white photos.

Brilliant read for the would be sailor. It makes you appreciate that you do not have to have a floating place to be happy on the water.
poor relative
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8 May 2011 5:51pm
oliver said...

Has anyone else got some random half baked ideas they want to share?



I did something similar. Ended a relationship, gave up my rental, packed in job, sold everything, Bought a WB panel van, kitted it out inside, packed it up with toys and set off round Aus.
Made it to Albany from Perth, was lured back to Perth by now wifey and we bought a ticket to South America instead. Spent a hedonistic 6 months in Brazil, Bolivia and Peru.
Was a very care free living life time.


dinsdale
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8 May 2011 5:59pm
On a different tack altogether. For all of us there is this life, and then there is "for ever after". Yes, we do like to argue about what "for ever after" holds for us, but even if annihilation is your thingy, it's for ever. If re-incarnation is your thingy, it's for ever, and so on. Now, taking a little mathematical "licence" here, any number (age in years) over "for ever" (infinity) is 0 (zero). That is to say that your measly 3 score and 10, or there-abouts here on Earth counts for absolutely naught when compared to "for ever after".

Why not take this challenge: Find out what's really gonna be for the "for ever after" part of your life, coz it's going to be for an awful long time. All the more awful if you get it wrong. You never can tell, all you your present woes might just pale into complete insignificance.
FormulaNova
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8 May 2011 6:20pm
dinsdale said...

On a different tack altogether. For all of us there is this life, and then there is "for ever after". Yes, we do like to argue about what "for ever after" holds for us, but even if annihilation is your thingy, it's for ever. If re-incarnation is your thingy, it's for ever, and so on. Now, taking a little mathematical "licence" here, any number (age in years) over "for ever" (infinity) is 0 (zero). That is to say that your measly 3 score and 10, or there-abouts here on Earth counts for absolutely naught when compared to "for ever after".

Why not take this challenge: Find out what's really gonna be for the "for ever after" part of your life, coz it's going to be for an awful long time. All the more awful if you get it wrong. You never can tell, all you your present woes might just pale into complete insignificance.


Why not take that challenge? Well, for a start it means finishing this bit first, and I kind of like this bit without worrying about what comes next.

How do you know this, and does the turtle that is holding up the Earth know this too?

cisco
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9 May 2011 1:37am
oliver said...
I'm now 47 and don't want to die until at least 70. I'm not sure why - but dying in my 60s sounds dull.

I'm not scared of dying - I've done most things I want to in life - in fact, I'd be content if someone told me this was my last day on earth.


I think your mid life crisis is coming a bit early ollie.

Our bodies are designed to last us about 120 years but because of substance abuse (eating food from supermarkets among other things), our expectations have been shortened. Eighty years is regarded as a good innings.

Maybe you have just realised your own mortality.

You have given the smokes away and I sincerely hope you have stuck with that.

You are at an age where a change of lifestyle could make a huge difference on the rest of your life.

P.S. Just remember one thing. None of us gets out of life alive.

dinsdale
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9 May 2011 12:01am
cisco said...
I think your mid life crisis is coming a bit early ollie.

Our bodies are designed to last us about 120 years but because of substance abuse (eating food from supermarkets among other things), our expectations have been shortened. Eighty years is regarded as a good innings.

Maybe you have just realised your own mortality.

You have given the smokes away and I sincerely hope you have stuck with that.

You are at an age where a change of lifestyle could make a huge difference on the rest of your life.

P.S. Just remember one thing. None of us gets out of life alive.

Peter makes some good points, except the fantasy about our life expectancy diminishing.
If you run away you simply take all your old baggage with you.
You need to change your life, not your location.

P.S. Just remember one thing. None of us gets out of life alive.


FormulaNova
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9 May 2011 6:37am
cisco said...
<snip>

Our bodies are designed to last us about 120 years but because of substance abuse (eating food from supermarkets among other things), our expectations have been shortened. Eighty years is regarded as a good innings.

<snip>



Hey Cisco, how do you arrive at this figure of 120 years? That would be an exceptional life span.

I am sure our life expectancy on average is far higher now than it has ever been.

If you believe in evolution, you could argue that our bodies are only designed to get to an age where they can reproduce. The rest is just a bonus.


GreenPat
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9 May 2011 11:08am
oliver said...

Death and dying


Mind if I change the title to 'Life and living'? Death and dying sounds so morbid.
Little Jon
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9 May 2011 2:27pm
dinsdale said...

On a different tack altogether. For all of us there is this life, and then there is "for ever after". Yes, we do like to argue about what "for ever after" holds for us, but even if annihilation is your thingy, it's for ever. If re-incarnation is your thingy, it's for ever, and so on. Now, taking a little mathematical "licence" here, any number (age in years) over "for ever" (infinity) is 0 (zero). That is to say that your measly 3 score and 10, or there-abouts here on Earth counts for absolutely naught when compared to "for ever after".

Why not take this challenge: Find out what's really gonna be for the "for ever after" part of your life, coz it's going to be for an awful long time. All the more awful if you get it wrong. You never can tell, all you your present woes might just pale into complete insignificance.


I remember Packer said he had been to the other side and there was nothing there
GalahOnTheBay
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9 May 2011 2:52pm
GreenPat said...

oliver said...

Death and dying

Mind if I change the title to 'Life and living'? Death and dying sounds so morbid.


Great minds (or equally not-so-great) think alike
GreenPat
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9 May 2011 5:58pm
GalahOnTheBay said...

GreenPat said...

oliver said...

Death and dying

Mind if I change the title to 'Life and living'? Death and dying sounds so morbid.


Great minds (or equally not-so-great) think alike


And fools never differ. Thread title changed.
oliver
oliver
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9 May 2011 6:46pm
GreenPat said...

oliver said...

Death and dying


Mind if I change the title to 'Life and living'? Death and dying sounds so morbid.


Yeah, no problems - same thing I guess. Just how you choose to look at it.
oliver
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9 May 2011 6:54pm
I don't think I'm depressed, not yet anyway.

I think the word melancholy describes my state of mind much better. I'm neither here nor there anymore.

What about Morbid and Melancholy as a new title for this thread?
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