When do you think authorities will take action about shark attacks.

Today there has been 2 attacks, one in NSW and the other in Tassy. Both sound very lucky to escape the jaws of death.

I laugh in the face of these morons that say we have no data showing an increase in shark activity. I personally have friends that have fished for 25 years in the same waters, they continually tell me the sightings are getting more and more every year.

These people that try and state unfounded facts. like they come up from deep water and attack B*******T, tell that to Ken crews family. Another I'ver heard is they don't actually like human flesh, great I'll just go let Brian Guest's family know. I mean seriously the pricks have been found to have rego plates and all sorts in their guts, they are scavengers and will take any easy prey. Another one is theres no proof they return to area where they have already had an easy kill, yeah right they travel in patterns I've followed the ones that where being tracked by GPS in Esperance a few years back. Those beast's followed a set path and traveled in a figure 8 pattern returning to exactly the same haunts on each lap.

I've been flamed in other topics on sharks in this forum, obviously that doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm posing the question that when will something proactive be done Lets see what will happen if a politicians family gets harmed, or another 10 attacks occur before the end of summer.

Look at why they are protected in the first place.... Someone came up with some figures from research about 15 years ago saying that at the time there was only 20 whites left in SA waters. That could have and probably was a crock of sh!t, wheres the detailed report, who was involved and how many hours dedicated, what recommendations where put forward as to when the ban should be lifted.

Anyhow, flame me, red thumb me, I don't really care anymore.

Send in the daleks.

As my usernam said, take up another sport, when are you going to get it, sharks are the top of the food chain when you hop in that water, not us. We are already destroying enough wildlife on land, and the seas, does indescriminate killing solve the problem? Even tagging, is that going to stop an attack, i doubt it.Just leave them be !

Is it just me, or does that girl seem to be commando under the top...

NDH47 said...

You could get yourself one of these:

www.theage.com.au/national/the-23-000-bodysuit-that-screams-bite-me-20071230-ge6k34.html

The suit that is!

you would need a 20m kite to pull you with one of those one

Bloody Euro sharks....

The hysteria that accompanies shark attacks always gives me the ****s. Human beings are like a pack of sheep, ****ing stupid. The same mentality that spends time following the exploits of morally defunct actors.

I have swum in the ocean for 40 years, always been aware that there are many nasties, coming originally from Tanzania. However the sheer statistics dictate that swimming in the ocean is by far and away safer than getting to the beach by car. We don't avoid cars do we? Nor are we, unfortunately culling them as some clowns suggest we should be doing with sharks.

If you get the opportunity, watch this movie .

We are killing sharks at the rate of 15,000 per hour for shark fin soup. When there are no more life on earth is going to be in some serious trouble!

Don't just add to the hysteria without making informed comment.

BTW I should make it clear, I'm not generalising about sharks. I'm specifically talking about White Pointers.

I feel strongly about the question of did they imposed a ban on the killing of whites without some kind of action plan. Meaning when they protected them an ongoing process should have been put in place to see firstly whether the ban is working. Secondly should the ban be indefinite or can it be lifted at some stage.

Cal said...

SammyJ, if you are not suggesting culling sharks, what exactly are you calling for??

Thanks Carl for asking

I personally would rather see the shark destroyed after a fatality. Every other one of god's creatures are destroyed in that situation with the exception of humans and white pointers.

OK OK I know that's not going to happen because of all the do gooder's, so like I proposed in the surfers forum I think it would be a proactive step forward to:

*To set up a designated website to track sharks.The government could do commercial advertising on the site to cover some costs. It would be the most hit website in Australia I would imagine.
*Get the fisherman involved by reporting regular sightings and give coordinates so research teams can go out and attract them for tagging.
*Send the chopper up everyday through summer with a boat ready to respond.
* every 2 years or how ever long the device lasts track them and replace.
* I'm sure there's enough enthusiast out there to form a team. maybe teams already doing research, uni grads etc.

I'm more about getting an understanding and being able to give people an educated warning they are in the area at the moment.

After tracking for some time the myth about them not returning to area's where they have previously attacked can be put to rest.

I just think everyone speculates on both sides of the fence, there needs to be more clarity on the subject.

These people that talk about the road toll. As tragic and depressing it is, there are 22 million people in this country that use some form of motor vehicle for transport whether they are driver or passenger they are at risk. My point is that (now these aren't facts) but merely speculation, you would be stretching it to stay 2% of that 22 million would be at the beach on any given day, opposed to 80% would use some form of transport everyday. So it's an extremely bad analogy to be using.

I much prefer to use the robber over the fence one. You know, gets mauled by a pit bull or rotwheller for example. Owner has to get the dog put down, even though the robber was in the dogs yard breaking the law.

I don't think there was a need to copy and paste the photo here Richiefish.
GreenPat's comment was enough to stimulate y'all to go to the site for a look.
This is our watersports site/forum......go do your perving elsewhere.

Go Sammy J!
Love to see a man with the guts to stand against the crowd.
Especially so when the crowd is irrational

Why dont we just wrap ourselves in cotton wool and just sit at home watching telly? No Wait!!! Radiation from the tv may get us!

All joking aside, having dived with sharks, had sharks steal fish from the end of my spear while spearfishing etc, I dont see them as a serious threat. Just treat them with the respect they deserve and be sensible in the water ie. sharks feed more around dawn/dusk, they can tend to feed at mouths of rivers estuaries on falling tides etc etc. I am sure you can research a lot more on their habits if you want.

Having gone a couple of rounds with cancer/chemo etc and come out the other side ok, the risks of swimming, sailing, diving in the oceans are ones I am prepared to take to actually live life. If a shark gets me at least its doing something I love.

smooch said...

go do your perving elsewhere.

Smooch is back.

Don't feed the troll.

SammyJ said...
*To set up a designated website to track sharks.The government could do commercial advertising on the site to cover some costs. It would be the most hit website in Australia I would imagine.

How will all the sharks register themselves? They don't have fingers.

These people that talk about the road toll. As tragic and depressing it is, there are 22 million people in this country that use some form of motor vehicle for transport whether they are driver or passenger they are at risk. My point is that (now these aren't facts) but merely speculation, you would be stretching it to stay 2% of that 22 million would be at the beach on any given day, opposed to 80% would use some form of transport everyday. So it's an extremely bad analogy to be using.

Yep, is a terrible analogy. Compare number of people driving right now to number of people in (sharky) water right now. You are far, far more likely to be driving.

I don't know about the Great White being so bad. Mostly they seem to be investigating, without fingers. If the 5m shark wanted to eat the girl yesterday it could have, easily. If the shark wanted to eat the kayakers last week again it could have.

The Bull Sharks are a bigger problem me thinks.

And I agree, I think there are more sharks than Academics and Researchers think. I sometimes work with Academics and Researchers and, well, ahem, yeah, say no more, nod-nod, wink-wink.

From: www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes
"It was the second great white caught off the Coast in the past three days after a 2.1m shark was hooked off Rainbow Bay on Wednesday.

It follows reports from scuba divers who saw three 4m great whites at The Pass at Byron Bay and at Smith's Shoal, near Flinders Reef off Cape Moreton, in the past two weeks"

I'm wondering if MD74 really did hit a plastic bag at Mermaid that day? I didn't go back out.

The only times I've felt the water was really, really sharky, like the fear comes from just under side of your rib cage instead of your gut, was:
- Within days of them catching a Great White within metres of where we were,
- When I went surfing at dusk, unknowingly, at a beach closed because of sharks. There were no signs and I didn't read the paper (bastards).