NSW bull bar /pipe bar laws?

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14 Oct 2013 10:44pm
So today I scratched the front right hand side of my navara d40 stx king cab so it matches the ding in the left side and thought it might be time I get a bull bar so I know longer have to worry about front end dings / scratches. However when looking at certain pipe bars I was informed that they are illegal and would void my insurance? If anyone has any recommendations of ways to get around this it would be great or recommendations on certain bars that would suit for mainly beach driving.

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light but strong )
Craig66
Craig66
NSW
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14 Oct 2013 11:02pm
I drive on the beach a bit, never seen a bull yet

Sorry, could not resist that.

Look at factory supplied bars as they are designed to work with the air bags etc.
Unhook3d
Unhook3d
WA
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14 Oct 2013 9:14pm
If your on face book, look up the "4wdtv" page. Post this on there, you'll get loads of feedback
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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14 Oct 2013 9:40pm
Probably they don't like it as it is not airbag compatible.

The factory ones are compatible, but usually are so flimsy they are a joke. They fold back and do more panel damage than if you sconned the roo with no bar I have seen ones I can flex by pushing on them.
Plus the price for genuine is a bit extreme usually.

Get a reputable steel winch bar like ARB etc, they are about the only thing that will actually protect the vehicle and also be airbag compatible.

But I do wonder why you want one when beach driving doesn't damage a front bumper
Ian K
Ian K
WA
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15 Oct 2013 4:24am
Bonnets these days are designed to be pedestrian friendly. If you're unlucky enough to hit a drunk, ( yes I know it would be his fault) the curves are smooth and they also require a certain clearance between the bonnet and hard engine parts so there's a bit of flex. A bullbar is like a cheese greater when it comes to body parts. A bull bar could be the difference between a broken-boned drunk and a dead drunk. Drive carefully, and if you do bend something - it's only a car.
Troyrotor
Troyrotor
QLD
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15 Oct 2013 6:52am
The bar you have pictured is an XROX bar which is airbag compatible, I know a few people with them. They are an awesome bar and very strong and look awesome.
dave.h
dave.h
WA
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15 Oct 2013 6:44am
I know that these bars are not the best looking going around, but I think they pass the tight bar laws in the east.
They are pedestrian friendly(as if any contact from a car can be!!), and actually rate very good for impacts and are quite light so they wont disturb your front suspension like a steel bar will(ARB/TJM).
www.smartbar.com.au
Poida
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WA
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15 Oct 2013 10:34am
that is some serious lighting on the front of your car
try some night surfing
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
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15 Oct 2013 2:02pm
nsw bull bar laws are not enforced so you can do what you like
kiteboy dave
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15 Oct 2013 6:51pm
Troyrotor said..

The bar you have pictured is an XROX bar which is airbag compatible, I know a few people with them. They are an awesome bar and very strong and look awesome.


Except the 4 spotties which looks wrong I reckon.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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15 Oct 2013 6:33pm
Poida said..
that is some serious lighting on the front of your cartry some night surfing


It is needed as the bar affords no protection from animals except for the centre 25%
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15 Oct 2013 9:40pm
Mark _australia said..

Probably they don't like it as it is not airbag compatible.

The factory ones are compatible, but usually are so flimsy they are a joke. They fold back and do more panel damage than if you sconned the roo with no bar I have seen ones I can flex by pushing on them.
Plus the price for genuine is a bit extreme usually.

Get a reputable steel winch bar like ARB etc, they are about the only thing that will actually protect the vehicle and also be airbag compatible.

But I do wonder why you want one when beach driving doesn't damage a front bumper


The reason I mentioned beach driving is the fact i dont want the front weighed down by a massive steel bull bar which is going to in turn make my front end shocks bottom out all the time. I wont be hunting for bulls on the beach especially seeing as large animals with small round feet generally don't like soft sand as there fat arses sink.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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15 Oct 2013 6:49pm
^^^^ a steel bar fitted properly will involve winding up the torsion bars to acheive same clearance and shocks not bottoming.
The pipe bars do seem a bit wanky as they don't stop animal strikes - all they are is a spottie mount that looks tuff
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15 Oct 2013 9:02pm
Mark _australia said..

^^^^ a steel bar fitted properly will involve winding up the torsion bars to acheive same clearance and shocks not bottoming.
The pipe bars do seem a bit wanky as they don't stop animal strikes - all they are is a spottie mount that looks tuff


Come on now Mark. Looking tuff is what it is all about.

ET.
choco
choco
SA
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16 Oct 2013 5:22pm
why not just fit an airbag system to the front of the car and it activates milliseconds before impact....I can see a roo being air born
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